IU Scott Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 To me this is the most embarrassing and disgraceful IU team in my lifetime. Right now I wouldn't care if we totally cleaned hose and started over from the top to bottom. Like I said if we fired the coach we will not get any top coaching candidates but if they want to do that the fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoagieRoll Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Coming out of the timeout, tie game with under 40 seconds and we turn it over. While holtman draws up a beautiful play. Crean was much maligned for his teams lacking the skills to play good fundamental basketball we fans wanted. With Archie it’s just gotten worse, and we don’t score or ever run anything easy on offense. Everything’s a struggle, either Romeo driving into traffic or a late three under duress. Garbage basketball Archie deserves more of the blame for being unable to at least get this team to play smarter. We deserve better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierFaithful Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 very frustrating game. Glimpses of what this team can do. Our postseason hopes now rest on the BTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsidehoosier Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 I just laugh now. It's easier than getting upset and letting it ruin my day. NIT invitation has no benefit in my mind. Hope we turn down the invite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierFaithful Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Just now, HoagieRoll said: Coming out of the timeout, tie game with under 40 seconds and we turn it over. While holtman draws up a beautiful play. Crean was much maligned for his teams lacking the skills to play good fundamental basketball we fans wanted. With Archie it’s just gotten worse, and we don’t score or ever run anything easy on offense. Everything’s a struggle, either Romeo driving into traffic or a late three under duress. Garbage basketball Archie deserves more of the blame for being unable to at least get this team to play smarter. We deserve better. That was a beautiful play call. Romeo had his guy well posted up -- just didn't execute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowhunter Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 We are who I thought we were! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: To me this is the most embarrassing and disgraceful IU team in my lifetime. Right now I wouldn't care if we totally cleaned hose and started over from the top to bottom. Like I said if we fired the coach we will not get any top coaching candidates but if they want to do that the fine. Why wouldn't we get a good hire? UK did. You must be assuming Fred is making the hire again. Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Just now, HoosierFaithful said: very frustrating game. Glimpses of what this team can do. Our postseason hopes now rest on the BTT. Maybe CBI???? Seriously though this team is undeserving of any tourney bid..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoInHoosier25 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Posted this in the game thread, but might be better to ask here... Ohio St and Louisville also have new coaches. Louisville is having a great year. It doesn't matter that IU beat them in December, they are currently ranked and playing good basketball. Ohio St looks like a bad team too, but even they are playing better than IU. So what is it? Are those 2 teams more talented? Better coaching? Both? It's incredibly frustrating to see this happening. Louisville was supposed to be decimated, yet they have overcome and in the top 25. So frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosrnight Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, HoagieRoll said: Coming out of the timeout, tie game with under 40 seconds and we turn it over. While holtman draws up a beautiful play. Crean was much maligned for his teams lacking the skills to play good fundamental basketball we fans wanted. With Archie it’s just gotten worse, and we don’t score or ever run anything easy on offense. Everything’s a struggle, either Romeo driving into traffic or a late three under duress. Garbage basketball Archie deserves more of the blame for being unable to at least get this team to play smarter. We deserve better. If we have players that are Creans that have no BBIQ, how is Archie supposed to just make them smarter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSHoosier Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 minute ago, HoagieRoll said: Coming out of the timeout, tie game with under 40 seconds and we turn it over. While holtman draws up a beautiful play. Crean was much maligned for his teams lacking the skills to play good fundamental basketball we fans wanted. With Archie it’s just gotten worse, and we don’t score or ever run anything easy on offense. Everything’s a struggle, either Romeo driving into traffic or a late three under duress. Garbage basketball Archie deserves more of the blame for being unable to at least get this team to play smarter. We deserve better. Totally agree. Can't say its Archie's second season. Holtman is in his second season and that didn't stop him from calling a game winning play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonHershey Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Archie is 0-3 against Holtmann. Two of the games were at IU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuthruandthru Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 minute ago, dbmhoosier said: Why wouldn't we get a good hire? UK did. You must be assuming Fred is making the hire again. Got it. If Archie fails Fred is gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Since 2000 which is 19 years we are on our 6th coach and we still can't win so maybe it is more than just coaching so maybe it goes higher. I think Herbert is one of the mai reasons we are where wee are today because f he let the AD do his job we would have probably had Belein as our coach today. Hopefully when McRobbie leaves we will bring in a president that sees that sorts are important to IU and bring in people who can get the job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 minute ago, HoagieRoll said: Coming out of the timeout, tie game with under 40 seconds and we turn it over. While holtman draws up a beautiful play. Crean was much maligned for his teams lacking the skills to play good fundamental basketball we fans wanted. With Archie it’s just gotten worse, and we don’t score or ever run anything easy on offense. Everything’s a struggle, either Romeo driving into traffic or a late three under duress. Garbage basketball Archie deserves more of the blame for being unable to at least get this team to play smarter. We deserve better. Not only did we turn it over coming out of a time out we wasted another time out just getting it in. We have no sense of spacing. Romeo gets the ball on the wing and Green stands 5 feet to his right so he can’t drive or anything. Just horrible basketball...horrible. This team has some talent...it isn’t shooting but it has some talent..and this coach doesn’t know how to tap into it..that is clear. Maybe with a whole team of his guys we will play better but it’s clear Archie can’t coach THIS team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Bowhunter said: We are who I thought we were! Remember how the pre-season experts had IU picked to finish low? Looks like they knew more about this than than we the fans did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyhoosier29 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 minute ago, SoInHoosier25 said: Posted this in the game thread, but might be better to ask here... Ohio St and Louisville also have new coaches. Louisville is having a great year. It doesn't matter that IU beat them in December, they are currently ranked and playing good basketball. Ohio St looks like a bad team too, but even they are playing better than IU. So what is it? Are those 2 teams more talented? Better coaching? Both? It's incredibly frustrating to see this happening. Louisville was supposed to be decimated, yet they have overcome and in the top 25. So frustrating. WAY MORE TALENTED. Surely people can see this. Neither Pitino nor Matta left bc they couldn’t get the job done. They didn’t leave the cupboard bare. You know very well that CTC left crap outside of Morgan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADegenerate Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 This system is abysmal and archaic. Archie will get a third year but we'll be worse next season. How do you have a roster completely void of shooters and don't recruit a single one? Fire Glass give the new AD time to find his guy. Archie out unless he makes the sweet 16 (good luck with that!) after next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Man, we are lucky Michigan State could not hit a free throw to save their life against us, we would be looking at 10 in a row right now if they shot their average. I am pretty much done with this team. The most interesting part of the year left is what Miller decides to do in the offseason. Some guys would be better served somewhere else I think. Additionally, I don't want to see any IU Pravda tweets about verticals or any of that kind of crap in the offseason. Spend half the time you do lifting weights and get in the gym and practice hitting some darn shots. Archie needs to take a summer sabbatical to visit an offensive minded coach and figure out how to run something that resembles a strategy. That $%$#$ weave crap is garbage. That is 4 in a row at home folks. I do not want to hear anything about fan support anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonHershey Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Hoosrnight said: If we have players that are Creans that no no BBIQ, how is Archie supposed to just make them smarter? Romeo isn't exactly Socrates on the floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosrnight Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 minute ago, AshtonHershey said: Archie is 0-3 against Holtmann. Two of the games were at IU. Holtman got Matta’s players, Archie got Crean’s. Archie is getting Creaned now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapnRon Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 I'm not blaming Archie until we don't have to play green or smith anymore. One ruins the offense, and the other ruins the defense. I really think it's that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: Why wouldn't we get a good hire? UK did. You must be assuming Fred is making the hire again. Got it. Because coaches will not want to leave there stable job to come to a place that will fire a coach after two years. Why would a Bennett leave UVA where he has already proven to be able to win the top conference in the country. what can he do at IU that he can't do at UVA. Also at UK their coach got fired for what he was like off the court more than what he did on the court. Also they soled their soles to hire Cal who has had final fours vacated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Just now, IU Scott said: Since 2000 which is 19 years we are on our 6th coach and we still can't win so maybe it is more than just coaching so maybe it goes higher. I think Herbert is one of the mai reasons we are where wee are today because f he let the AD do his job we would have probably had Belein as our coach today. Hopefully when McRobbie leaves we will bring in a president that sees that sorts are important to IU and bring in people who can get the job done. In the past 25 years we've had one only one good X and Os guy. RMK didn't try his last 5 years or so. Kelvin was a terrific coach and he won big but he couldn't follow the rules. It's not the program it's the administration. Just hire a damn good Xs and Os guy and everything else will fall into place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milehi Fan Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 I can’t imagine how this team doesn’t look drastically different next year. But then again, I can’t imagine how Smith starts every half either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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