Zlinedavid Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, AxnJxn said: Looks like Rutgers is the lowest in Kenpom in the 80s range. Begs the question - are any losses considered bad losses in this year's B1G? Losing to Rutgers at home would be as close as it would come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 1 minute ago, HoosierJax said: Ok.. we are in...🤙 No one is saying that; we are saying that your notion we have to win the BTT is not based in reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 1 minute ago, HoosierJax said: Ok.. we are in...🤙 That's not what I said. I said we didn't have any of what would be called a "bad" loss, in terms of the current analytical models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 If Nebraska is a bad loss, then Michigan State has two bad losses on their resume (to Indiana). IU's and Nebraska's metrics are very similar. Let's hope Nebraska doesn't become a bad loss, because we'll be viewed the same way.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: No one is saying that; we are saying that your notion we have to win the BTT is not based in reality. Serious Question, if we lose at Illinois and set at 15-15 ,how could we not have to win BTT to get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Frankly, after the way this team played this week beating 2 ranked teams, I find it puzzling why any IU fan would be arguing that we don’t at least have a shot at making the tournament Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, 5fouls said: If Nebraska is a bad loss, then Michigan State has two bad losses on their resume (to Indiana). IU's and Nebraska's metrics are very similar. Let's hope Nebraska doesn't become a bad loss, because we'll be viewed the same way.  One would think Mich.ST is no longer a 2 seed then...does this make Purdue a 2-3 seed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, HoosierJax said: Serious Question, if we lose at Illinois and set at 15-15 ,how could we not have to win BTT to get in. Way to move the goal posts.... Even in this scenario, if we picked up wins against Rutgers and 4 BTT wins we probably get in at 20-16 without winning the BTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, HoosierJax said: Serious Question, if we lose at Illinois and set at 15-15 ,how could we not have to win BTT to get in. We probably would, but as of today, that hasn't happened. UI and Rutgers are must-wins. Nobody is saying they're not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy1987 Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 The bubble is weak. 18 wins could do it but I'd rather be safe and win 19. If we beat Illinois and Rutgers to close out the regular season we do not need to win the BTT. A loss to either and we will have to make it to the BTT championship. Go Hoosiers!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Indy1987 said: The bubble is weak. 18 wins could do it but I'd rather be safe and win 19. If we beat Illinois and Rutgers to close out the regular season we do not need to win the BTT. A loss to either and we will have to make it to the BTT championship. Go Hoosiers!!!  A loss to Rutgers at home (statistically) would be the worst B10 loss a team could have. That might do us in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Zlinedavid said: We probably would, but as of today, that hasn't happened. UI and Rutgers are must-wins. Nobody is saying they're not. I mean, we could lose in the finals but pick up 3 quad 1 wins which would likely get us to 10. I still think we'd get in that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy1987 Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Just now, Zlinedavid said:  A loss to Rutgers at home (statistically) would be the worst B10 loss a team could have. That might do us in. I agree that one would hurt us worse than an Illinois road loss.  Every game I've watched today the announcers have talked about us. We are in the conversation and after a terrible couple months that's amazing. Just go win. Go Hoosiers!!!  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Way to move the goal posts.... Even in this scenario, if we picked up wins against Rutgers and 4 BTT wins we probably get in at 20-16 without winning the BTT. Well, we will see if your right....hope you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePaulieWalnuts Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 IMO, three more wins (Rutgers, Illinois and one BTT game) and we’re dancing.  Some think two more wins (Illinois and Rutgers) does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 23 minutes ago, Zlinedavid said: Losing to Rutgers at home would be as close as it would come Yet Rutgers is beating Iowa on the road today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: I mean, we could lose in the finals but pick up 3 quad 1 wins which would likely get us to 10. I still think we'd get in that way. But a home loss to Rutgers might be a Q3. Right now, the fact we have no Q3-4 losses is what's keeping us alive. All the wins are good, but that part of our resume being blemish free is critical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Just now, FKIM01 said: Yet Rutgers is beating Iowa on the road today... That's the B10 this year for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, Zlinedavid said: But a home loss to Rutgers might be a Q3. Right now, the fact we have no Q3-4 losses is what's keeping us alive. All the wins are good, but that part of our resume being blemish free is critical. I get that, but 10 quad 1 wins would compare with anyone in the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: I get that, but 10 quad 1 wins would compare with anyone in the country. But everyone in that group doesn't have nearly as many total losses. The whole Q1 wins/Q4 losses doesn't exist in a vacuum. Theoretically, a team could have gone 1-19 in the B10 without a Q3-4 loss this year, so long as they beat Rutgers at home. All the other teams with 10 Q1 wins are in the single digits in losses. We've got to have something to counterbalance that.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Zlinedavid said: But everyone in that group doesn't have nearly as many total losses. The whole Q1 wins/Q4 losses doesn't exist in a vacuum. Theoretically, a team could have gone 1-19 in the B10 without a Q3-4 loss this year, so long as they beat Rutgers at home. All the other teams with 10 Q1 wins are in the single digits in losses. We've got to have something to counterbalance that.   I understand that, but none of them are bubble teams either. I'm not advocating for a high seed, but if we miss the tournament with 10 Q1 wins it may be the only team it ever happens to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: I understand that, but none of them are bubble teams either. I'm not advocating for a high seed, but if we miss the tournament with 10 Q1 wins it may be the only team it ever happens to. Hey, if anything describes this season, it's "anomaly". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 30 minutes ago, FKIM01 said: Yet Rutgers is beating Iowa on the road today... We should have swept the Fighting Frans or no worse than a split. Freaking Bohannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 48 minutes ago, ThePaulieWalnuts said: IMO, three more wins (Rutgers, Illinois and one BTT game) and we’re dancing.  Some think two more wins (Illinois and Rutgers) does it. I think this is right. We have the quad wins. This is a year when being at or about .500 and having a bad overall record in a power conf does not necessarily mean you're out. We have a number of really good wins, and sweeping #6 MSU didn't hurt. They also may look at the latter portion of the season, where we're obviously improving. After today, we look like a tourney team -- have to keep it up, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loviubb Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 Does the selection committee still take into consideration injuries and how health has effected record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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