Hoosier51 Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 8 hours ago, rico said: per hoopsrumors.com While James and Davis are widely expected to remain in Los Angeles going forward, Russell Westbrook‘s future is cloudier. According to Charania, rival executives believe the Pacers will be open to discussing trades involving Malcolm Brogdon and Buddy Hield and could emerge as a Westbrook suitor, which is something Marc Stein suggested over the weekend. While Brogdon and Hield would be good fits on the Lakers’ roster, L.A. would likely have to attach sweeteners to Westbrook to realistically make any deal with Indiana. Lakers have nothing that is worth attaching as sweetener to take an on albatross like Westbrook. Maybe if they had their first round pick this season, but since they don't Pritchard needs to hang up anytime someone from the Lakers calls. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Hoosier51 said: Lakers have nothing that is worth attaching as sweetener to take an on albatross like Westbrook. Maybe if they had their first round pick this season, but since they don't Pritchard needs to hang up anytime someone from the Lakers calls. Yeah, they can't trade a first rounder until 2027. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier51 Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 Just now, BGleas said: Yeah, they can't trade a first rounder until 2027. They better hope they can do something this off-season because their future looks kind of bleak if not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 Why don't or why can't the Lakers be the one that buys out Westbrook? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 25 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: Why don't or why can't the Lakers be the one that buys out Westbrook? They need something in return. Buying him out doesn't get them under the cap to where they can sign another big time free agent. Really the only bargaining chip they have is that he's an expiring contract. They need warm bodies to put around LeBron and Davis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, BGleas said: They need something in return. Buying him out doesn't get them under the cap to where they can sign another big time free agent. Really the only bargaining chip they have is that he's an expiring contract. They need warm bodies to put around LeBron and Davis. No one took on John Wall. Who and why would anyone take Westbrook? Especially the pacers. The expiring contract means nothing for a small market unattractive team who's best free agent signing in 20 years is David West. Back to Westbrook, it's amazing a guy so good can be so unaware and unwilling, even unable to change as a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 13 minutes ago, BGleas said: They need something in return. Buying him out doesn't get them under the cap to where they can sign another big time free agent. Really the only bargaining chip they have is that he's an expiring contract. They need warm bodies to put around LeBron and Davis. So does a buyout not change their cap situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv1972iu Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 Juan Howard's name being tossed into the ring as a head coach candidate for the Lakers per ESPN rumors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 So far not looking good for the Cavs against the Nets down by 16 at the half. Need the Cavs to either win this one or the next play in game for the Pacers to get the Cavs 1st round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 3 hours ago, NotIThatLives said: No one took on John Wall. Who and why would anyone take Westbrook? Especially the pacers. The expiring contract means nothing for a small market unattractive team who's best free agent signing in 20 years is David West. Back to Westbrook, it's amazing a guy so good can be so unaware and unwilling, even unable to change as a player. Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating for the Pacers making a Westbrook trade. Just saying the Lakers need to get something in return for Westbrook, as he is their only remotely tradeable asset not including LeBron or Davis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 3 hours ago, NotIThatLives said: So does a buyout not change their cap situation? I haven't looked at their cap sheet, but with LeBron and Davis, I'm assuming their still over the cap, or at least not far enough under to add anyone of significance. Also, when you're under the cap you can't use those $5-8 million dollar signing exceptions or whatever they are. Their only options are too move Westbrook for a couple warm bodies that can shoot and/or play D, or find a 3rd star willing to pull a Simmons unless they get traded to LA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier51 Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 16 minutes ago, IU Scott said: So far not looking good for the Cavs against the Nets down by 16 at the half. Need the Cavs to either win this one or the next play in game for the Pacers to get the Cavs 1st round pick. I would be ok with them not getting the Cavs pick this year. I really haven't looked but supposedly next years is a deeper draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, Hoosier51 said: I would be ok with them not getting the Cavs pick this year. I really haven't looked but supposedly next years is a deeper draft. I think I would like it this year because it will be in the range of 16-18. If the Cavs stay healthy next year you might be looking somewhere in the 20's.also with a top 5-6 pick this year to go along a pick around 16 and the 33rd pick we cod set up good for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier51 Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 42 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I think I would like it this year because it will be in the range of 16-18. If the Cavs stay healthy next year you might be looking somewhere in the 20's.also with a top 5-6 pick this year to go along a pick around 16 and the 33rd pick we cod set up good for the future. Possible but anything can happen,this year the highest it can be is 16. Next year Cleveland might be good but there is also a chance they suck and the pick could be a lot higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Hoosier51 said: Possible but anything can happen,this year the highest it can be is 16. Next year Cleveland might be good but there is also a chance they suck and the pick could be a lot higher. No it can't because next year is lottery protected as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier51 Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: No it can't because next year is lottery protected as well Ok forgot about that. But I still would be fine if it's next seasons, sounds like a better draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 On 4/12/2022 at 7:24 AM, rico said: per hoopsrumors.com While James and Davis are widely expected to remain in Los Angeles going forward, Russell Westbrook‘s future is cloudier. According to Charania, rival executives believe the Pacers will be open to discussing trades involving Malcolm Brogdon and Buddy Hield and could emerge as a Westbrook suitor, which is something Marc Stein suggested over the weekend. While Brogdon and Hield would be good fits on the Lakers’ roster, L.A. would likely have to attach sweeteners to Westbrook to realistically make any deal with Indiana. Sweetener would have to be a top 10 pick…and they don’t have one. Have to move Davis likely to get that….Brogdon and Turner are always hurt. Whatever we can do to flip the roster and open up cap space in 2022 or 2023 sounds good to me…especially if we have multiple top 10 picks (including Halliburton) to build around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted April 14, 2022 Report Share Posted April 14, 2022 On 4/12/2022 at 4:09 PM, Hoosier51 said: Lakers have nothing that is worth attaching as sweetener to take an on albatross like Westbrook. Maybe if they had their first round pick this season, but since they don't Pritchard needs to hang up anytime someone from the Lakers calls. It’s why I think the Davis for Randle trade works because Randle wore out his welcome in NY and would warrant NY first coming back. Plus if Davis stays healthy that is an upgrade and perhaps they could pair a young star with him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier51 Posted April 14, 2022 Report Share Posted April 14, 2022 Just now, dgambill said: It’s why I think the Davis for Randle trade works because Randle wore out his welcome in NY and would warrant NY first coming back. Plus if Davis stays healthy that is an upgrade and perhaps they could pair a young star with him. Davis is starting to get to that point where teams are not going to want to trade for him because of his injury history. He misses so many games in a season anymore that trading for him would be a huge gamble. That being said it is the Knicks under Dolson you are talking about and no one has ever accused them of being smart so it is possible with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted April 14, 2022 Report Share Posted April 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Hoosier51 said: Davis is starting to get to that point where teams are not going to want to trade for him because of his injury history. He misses so many games in a season anymore that trading for him would be a huge gamble. That being said it is the Knicks under Dolson you are talking about and no one has ever accused them of being smart so it is possible with them. No they aren’t. They gave Randle a max contract to prove it. I’d take 3 more years of AD who would be much easier to flip later in his contract than 4 more of Randle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier51 Posted April 14, 2022 Report Share Posted April 14, 2022 1 minute ago, dgambill said: No they aren’t. They gave Randle a max contract to prove it. I’d take 3 more years of AD who would be much easier to flip later in his contract than 4 more of Randle. Randle is so weird, he looked like he was starting to be a decent player for them but now someone they will probably get rid of and very few teams will want to trade much for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 Big game for the Pacers tonight…Cavs win and they get the 16 pick. Much better than I thought when they made the trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, dgambill said: Big game for the Pacers tonight…Cavs win and they get the 16 pick. Much better than I thought when they made the trade. That’s around where Giannis went lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 55 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said: That’s around where Giannis went lol. Could easily attach say Turner with 16 to move up into top 10 to say New Orleans (have Lakers pick). He would pair well with Zion who likes to play inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 Not looking good though. Hawks got hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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