rico Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 And they are playing in that ACC....Canes with an early lead on the Deacons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 Don't think for a moment that this changes my opinion of the Cretin. Just that I thought some of you might like hearing from Fisch : Is Indiana Playing The Best Ball In The Big Ten? Don Fischer with Dan Dakich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 Miami 79 Wake 71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 At the half...Notre Dame 52 GaTech 32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, rico said: At the half...Notre Dame 52 GaTech 32 Pastner has to be on the hot seat. Never thought that was a good fit. He was trending down at Memphis and you can't recruit the same players to GT. They need a system coach that can win with smart players, but not top 100 athletes, similar to how Paul Johnson ran the football program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said: Pastner has to be on the hot seat. Never thought that was a good fit. He was trending down at Memphis and you can't recruit the same players to GT. They need a system coach that can win with smart players, but not top 100 athletes, similar to how Paul Johnson ran the football program. Pastner, IMO, is living on borrowed time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just now, rico said: Pastner, IMO, is living on borrowed time. Never understood how he got a HC job in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Never understood how he got a HC job in the first place. Cal left Memphis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, rico said: Cal left Memphis. I realize that but why hire Pastner with no HC experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I realize that but why hire Pastner with no HC experience. What are you talking about? Pastner, worked under Cal. When Cal left Josh was named the HC at Memphis. His record with the Tigers was 167-73 in 7 years with four NCAAT appearances. He was successful there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, rico said: What are you talking about? Pastner, worked under Cal. When Cal left Josh was named the HC at Memphis. His record with the Tigers was 167-73 in 7 years with four NCAAT appearances. He was successful there. was never impressed with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just now, IU Scott said: was never impressed with him That's fine....but he was a winner at Memphis. Evidently Lute and Cal thought a lot of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, rico said: What are you talking about? Pastner, worked under Cal. When Cal left Josh was named the HC at Memphis. His record with the Tigers was 167-73 in 7 years with four NCAAT appearances. He was successful there. Pastner at GT is a bad combination of "pretty goods". Pastner is a pretty good coach. Not great, not terrible. GT is a pretty good program. Not super elite, but not terrible either. The problem is that they're up against the biggest name programs in college basketball: Duke, UNC, NC State, Syracuse, Louisville, etc. Pastner at Memphis was at the helm of one of the better programs in the AAC, and his results reflected that. Put him in a much tougher league in a program that's only equal in prestige to the one he left, and you're seeing the outcome. GT also suffers from the same phantom issue that Illinois does. Atlanta produces a ton of talent, so one would think that the program that's in the city would have an advantage. GT doesn't carry that kind of weight though, and everyone forgets that the top level talent in Atlanta is being inundated with information from every major program in the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 Ga Tech has it cut down to 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Zlinedavid said: Pastner at GT is a bad combination of "pretty goods". Pastner is a pretty good coach. Not great, not terrible. GT is a pretty good program. Not super elite, but not terrible either. The problem is that they're up against the biggest name programs in college basketball: Duke, UNC, NC State, Syracuse, Louisville, etc. Pastner at Memphis was at the helm of one of the better programs in the AAC, and his results reflected that. Put him in a much tougher league in a program that's only equal in prestige to the one he left, and you're seeing the outcome. GT also suffers from the same phantom issue that Illinois does. Atlanta produces a ton of talent, so one would think that the program that's in the city would have an advantage. GT doesn't carry that kind of weight though, and everyone forgets that the top level talent in Atlanta is being inundated with information from every major program in the country. I took Scott's post as saying why Tech would hire a HC without any head coaching experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 15 minutes ago, rico said: That's fine....but he was a winner at Memphis. Evidently Lute and Cal thought a lot of him. He was the ACC coach of the year in 2017. Beat UNC and Virginia both that year...at a school like Georgia tech with no basketball history and below avg talent. That’s impressive. Didn’t they knock us out of the NIT that year?? Anyways that’s a tough place to coach...should be more like why did he take a job there not why did they hire him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just now, rico said: I took Scott's post as saying why Tech would hire a HC without any head coaching experience. No ,I said why would Memphis hire him with no HC experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just now, dgambill said: He was the ACC coach of the year in 2017. Beat UNC and Virginia both that year...at a school like Georgia tech with no basketball history and below avg talent. That’s impressive. Didn’t they knock us out of the NIT that year?? Anyways that’s a tough place to coach...should be more like why did he take a job there not why did they hire him. Georgia Tech was a power in the ACC form 85-92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 Notre Dame wins.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, IU Scott said: No ,I said why would Memphis hire him with no HC experience Why would Kansas hire Roy Williams? Dang, it worked out for Memphis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Georgia Tech was a power in the ACC form 85-92 That was over 30 years ago...before Pastner was almost born. Scott your old! Don’t get me wrong I am getting there too but if Stephon Marberry was your last good team then that is a long time ago!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, dgambill said: That was over 30 years ago...before Pastner was almost born. Scott your old! Don’t get me wrong I am getting there too but if Stephon Marberry was your last good team then that is a long time ago!!! I am older than Scott......sigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 hour ago, 13th&Jackson said: Pastner has to be on the hot seat. Never thought that was a good fit. He was trending down at Memphis and you can't recruit the same players to GT. They need a system coach that can win with smart players, but not top 100 athletes, similar to how Paul Johnson ran the football program. Isn't this just his 2nd year? Results have stunk no doubt but good luck hiring a coach if all you get is two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, rico said: I am older than Scott......sigh ...and I am older than both of you...GET OFF MY LAWN!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, rico said: I am older than Scott......sigh Gotcha both beat.....Old Friend "How terribly strange to be 70. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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