Steubenhoosier Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 There had also been a more recent assault involving 3 Sparty football players. One of them was a kid from Ft. Wayne. This was within the last couple of years. Not sure if these two are being confused or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/27076415/title-ix-report-clears-msu-players-sex-assault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Reacher said: https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/27076415/title-ix-report-clears-msu-players-sex-assault Another he-said-she-said. They probably raped her, but I can't imagine how they prove it. If you report this stuff as it happens rather than waiting years to come forward, it's much easier to prove your case. Nice young men you're mentoring there, Tommy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 17 hours ago, FKIM01 said: Another he-said-she-said. They probably raped her, but I can't imagine how they prove it. If you report this stuff as it happens rather than waiting years to come forward, it's much easier to prove your case. Nice young men you're mentoring there, Tommy. I think that type of player is what we could have expected had Sampson not been given the boot. I think we would have had better results on the court but we would have had a real issue with the players off of it. Despite our troubles, I am glad that we are not having rape accusations flying every few years...and if you have a daughter, why on earth would you ever want her to go to a school like MSU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach1K Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 On 1/31/2018 at 3:23 PM, hoosierBGH said: The Duke Lacrosse case comes quickly to mind. The 30 for 30 on that wow just wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach1K Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 I did a paper on Title IX for an English class I took in the summer a couple years ago I included things such as MSU, Baylor, and then also a personal experience of watching what happens when there is an investigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 https://reason.com/2020/03/09/michigan-state-university-title-ix-debt-sex-medical/ Lengthy article but worthwhile. Poor guy is $283k debt from medical school at MSU then get tossed out of school just prior to graduating. "It's a Catch-22: He can't dig himself out of debt until he finishes medical school, but he needs to win the lawsuit to have a chance of doing that. "If [the lawsuit] doesn't work, I'm fucked," says Dev. "And it's probably not going to work." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Holy thread resurrection Batman!!!!! 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy1987 Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 29 minutes ago, Reacher said: https://reason.com/2020/03/09/michigan-state-university-title-ix-debt-sex-medical/ Lengthy article but worthwhile. Poor guy is $283 debt from medical school at MSU then get tossed out of school just prior to graduating. "It's a Catch-22: He can't dig himself out of debt until he finishes medical school, but he needs to win the lawsuit to have a chance of doing that. "If [the lawsuit] doesn't work, I'm fucked," says Dev. "And it's probably not going to work." Wow that is like a soap opera storyline. Go Hoosiers!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Proud2BAHoosier said: Holy thread resurrection Batman!!!!! 😉 Really ! It's not always easy. Trust me. I have searched and searched in the past for relevant threads that I recall..... only to have failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 21 minutes ago, Reacher said: https://reason.com/2020/03/09/michigan-state-university-title-ix-debt-sex-medical/ Lengthy article but worthwhile. Poor guy is $283 debt from medical school at MSU then get tossed out of school just prior to graduating. "It's a Catch-22: He can't dig himself out of debt until he finishes medical school, but he needs to win the lawsuit to have a chance of doing that. "If [the lawsuit] doesn't work, I'm fucked," says Dev. "And it's probably not going to work." 283000 in debt you mean lol....I was like geez...how poor are you that you can't pay 283 to graduate college? lol As for the story. It's one sided...only Dev's and so hard for me to tell what is truth. All of them sound "f'ed" up though in my opinion. To me...another reminder to always try to behave appropriately as best I can. Drinking to excess and having/attempting sexual relations outside of marriage have a price. For most it isn't nearly as severe to ruin their career goals …. but for some he might count himself lucky as they have faced harsher outcomes from these actions. IMO...young man needs to get a job and start paying off his debt...perhaps someday he can finish his degree somewhere else. He made some very bad decisions by his own accounting of the story and instead of owning up to them he is making excuses. I'm sure this stuff happens a lot in college. I saw a lot of depravity my time there..and dumb young people going about not thinking about the consequences that can happen for their decisions. Some people learn the hard way but let it be a lesson to young people...how quickly your future can be derailed for one night of stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 38 minutes ago, dgambill said: 283000 in debt you mean lol....I was like geez...how poor are you that you can't pay 283 to graduate college? lol I forgot to add the k. What I'm sure is accurate is the lack of due process and how the case was handled. 41 minutes ago, milehiiu said: Really ! It's not always easy. Trust me. I have searched and searched in the past for relevant threads that I recall..... only to have failed. 44 minutes ago, Proud2BAHoosier said: Holy thread resurrection Batman!!!!! 😉 It took me awhile. Used the search feature for the first time! Nothing came up under Michigan State. Finally thought to use MSU. Didn't want to start a new thread . Sure it won't be long before we are adding to this one again.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addictedtoIU Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Dev needed to call Tom Izzo to see if he could join the team as a walkon. Everything would've been solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Reacher said: I forgot to add the k. What I'm sure is accurate is the lack of due process and how the case was handled. It took me awhile. Used the search feature for the first time! Nothing came up under Michigan State. Finally thought to use MSU. Didn't want to start a new thread . Sure it won't be long before we are adding to this one again.... We have a search feature ? Wow ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Reacher said: https://reason.com/2020/03/09/michigan-state-university-title-ix-debt-sex-medical/ Lengthy article but worthwhile. Poor guy is $283k debt from medical school at MSU then get tossed out of school just prior to graduating. "It's a Catch-22: He can't dig himself out of debt until he finishes medical school, but he needs to win the lawsuit to have a chance of doing that. "If [the lawsuit] doesn't work, I'm fucked," says Dev. "And it's probably not going to work." I showed a younger coworker a written consent form template for consensual encounters. He couldn't believe it was a real thing. Cases like this are why I think its prudent for young people to stay away from casual encounters or carry a few consent forms with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 1 minute ago, mrflynn03 said: I showed a younger coworker a written consent form template for consensual encounters. He couldn't believe it was a real thing. Cases like this are why I think its prudent for young people to stay away from casual encounters or carry a few consent forms with them. A very different day and age than back in the day.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 48 minutes ago, mrflynn03 said: I showed a younger coworker a written consent form template for consensual encounters. He couldn't believe it was a real thing. Cases like this are why I think its prudent for young people to stay away from casual encounters or carry a few consent forms with them. "Before you disrobe, could you fill this out in triplicate by checking the boxes as to what is and isn't allowed? Initial here, here, and here...sign and date here...oh, and I picked a hotel where the desk attendant doubles as a notary public..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted April 2, 2020 Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 Just saw on ESPN that Izzo and assistants contacted a potential witness before the police. https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28982980/michigan-state-basketball-coach-tom-izzo-sought-witness-2017-criminal-investigation-player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted April 2, 2020 Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: Just saw on ESPN that Izzo and assistants contacted a potential witness before the police. https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28982980/michigan-state-basketball-coach-tom-izzo-sought-witness-2017-criminal-investigation-player And I and plenty others on here have said for literally years....get in nice with the media and these things never get discussed. Was the same with Bobby Bowden...yet Archie bangs back at Lunardi for his bracketology and gets the wrath of every writer, analyst on tv,etc....for 72 hours straight. Shoot....still waiting for Izzo to comment on how one of the largest sex abuse scandals this country ever had happened right under his nose and he claims he knew nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted April 2, 2020 Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 23 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Shoot....still waiting for Izzo to comment on how one of the largest sex abuse scandals this country ever had happened right under his nose and he claims he knew nothing. Remember during that season in his presser's he kept saying "I'll comment at the appropriate time but this isn't the time and place"? Seems the "appropriate time" never came. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted April 2, 2020 Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, BGleas said: Remember during that season in his presser's he kept saying "I'll comment at the appropriate time but this isn't the time and place"? Seems the "appropriate time" never came. Exactly. Kept saying that over and over....still waiting there Tapdance Tommy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted April 2, 2020 Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 Disgust for that hypocrite is all I can feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slojoe Posted April 2, 2020 Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 More bad news for MSU and CTI. One of MSU's players (a walk-on) was accused of rape, but the prosecutors office decided not to charge. It is my understanding that the player was dismissed from the team in mid-January of this year. The accuser has appealed the decision not to prosecute to the Michigan attorney general's office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted April 2, 2020 Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 2 hours ago, dbmhoosier said: Just saw on ESPN that Izzo and assistants contacted a potential witness before the police. https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28982980/michigan-state-basketball-coach-tom-izzo-sought-witness-2017-criminal-investigation-player 2 assistants? Good chance we can go ahead and eliminate a future coaching candidate by guilt from association hanging around that sum bag so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boiler Sam Posted April 2, 2020 Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 hour ago, FKIM01 said: Disgust for that hypocrite is all I can feel. This is how much I don’t like that guy: As a Purdue grad, I would rather lose games and/or recruits to IU than to MSU. I was actually happy that TJD went to IU instead of that cesspool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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