ButlerHoosier Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 Ahh sorry for my misunderstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 14 minutes ago, Artesian_86 said: That’s not what he said... Just listened to the whole press conference and he never said one time that he thought he would definitely be back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, Cbp4IU said: I feel like Doyle’s latest tweet is pretty interesting. Curious if it’s that that the whole Alumni base is truly fed up? This? Who's the one that is enough to get you toasted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricBoogaloo Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: This? Who's the one that is enough to get you toasted? I think Greg correctly diagnoses the problem in a follow-up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 6 hours ago, NotIThatLives said: UCLA offered Cal 1/8th his current salary. Not sure if you were aware of the origins of my comment. We want the same things. I don't think 7 years and 40 gets Stevens. Go big or go home. 10 years nearing 100. I would hate to see a 10 yr deal. Rather get a guy who is confident enough to do a 5yr deal that would auto extend IF goals are achieved. I think long term deals can remove the pressure to achieve exceptional results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: This? Who's the one that is enough to get you toasted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuckerkorn Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 51 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: Dakach did the noon Wichita st game. He blasted IU this morning on the early show saying how we needed an IU guy. Wouldn't say who because there isn't one good enough. I heard that brief segment. He really criticized CAM for lack of player development and that the poor shooting could be corrected with coaching - but wasn't. I can't disagree with what he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 3 hours ago, IU878176 said: The Davis’s are brothers. How many transfers have brought two more guys with them, ever? Keegan freshman brothers at IA, and one is playing lits of minutes well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, John S said: I would hate to see a 10 yr deal. Rather get a guy who is confident enough to do a 5yr deal that would auto extend IF goals are achieved. I think long term deals can remove the pressure to achieve exceptional results. You give Mrs. Stevens what Mrs. Stevens wants. She tell you. Not the other way around. There is no negotiation. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Zuckerkorn said: I heard that brief segment. He really criticized CAM for lack of player development and that the poor shooting could be corrected with coaching - but wasn't. I can't disagree with what he said. everything was spot on except the IU only guy. That type of thinking will end the program for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, John S said: I would hate to see a 10 yr deal. Rather get a guy who is confident enough to do a 5yr deal that would auto extend IF goals are achieved. I think long term deals can remove the pressure to achieve exceptional results. This is a strange take. The reality is, "doing nothing" is an incredibly viable option when it comes to us selling Brad Stevens on taking the IU job, so we have to make an incredibly compelling offer. If we offer 5-years and Stevens says, "no thanks, i'm good coaching the Celtics" the issue isn't that he lacks confidence in himself. It's that we didn't make a compelling enough offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: everything was spot on except the IU only guy. That type of thinking will end the program for good. Alford is better and what we saw the last 4 years and he will be able to fix the players shots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Alford is better and what we saw the last 4 years and he will be able to fix the players shots There are probably 100 coaches that would have done better. That's a very low bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: This is a strange take. The reality is, "doing nothing" is an incredibly viable option when it comes to us selling Brad Stevens on taking the IU job, so we have to make an incredibly compelling offer. If we offer 5-years and Stevens says, "no thanks, i'm good coaching the Celtics" the issue isn't that he lacks confidence in himself. It's that we didn't make a compelling enough offer. Why is it that so many seem to think BS is far and away the only answer? I love the guy, for sure. But there’s got to be other coaches out there capable of elevating the mess at IU within two years. I think concentrating only on BS would be a mistake. IMO the admin doesnt need to offer huge $$$ or terms. There are a limited number of schools with the legacy as IU. And, attracting a proven good coach isnt impossible at a reasonable price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 minute ago, NotIThatLives said: There are probably 100 coaches that would have done better. That's a very low bar. It is all about who you can get here and you are not getting the top 10 coaches in college basketball here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustout Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: It is all about who you can get here and you are not getting the top 10 coaches in college basketball here. Are Drew or Beard top 10? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: It is all about who you can get here and you are not getting the top 10 coaches in college basketball here. IDK, but was RMK a top ten coach when he came? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Bustout said: Are Drew or Beard top 10? close and maybe 9th and 10th Coach K Calapari Few Boheim Izzo Self Williams Wright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 Just now, IU Scott said: It is all about who you can get here and you are not getting the top 10 coaches in college basketball here. Dude, you depress me. Aren't you the one that always points to the fact that we paid Archie Millier top 10 at the time money? Or that we have the highest recruiting budget almost every year? It's time to get outta here with that stinking thinking. There's only about 5 guys that are unattainable. So that leaves 5 more that are attainable at the right price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 Just now, IU Scott said: close and maybe 9th and 10th Coach K Calapari Few Boheim Izzo Self Williams Wright Bennett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 Just now, NotIThatLives said: Dude, you depress me. Aren't you the one that always points to the fact that we paid Archie Millier top 10 at the time money? Or that we have the highest recruiting budget almost every year? It's time to get outta here with that stinking thinking. There's only about 5 guys that are unattainable. So that leaves 5 more that are attainable at the right price. Do you know the difference between realistic and depressing. It has nothing against IU but those top coaches are winning at their current job and would be stupid to leave where they are at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 Just now, dbmhoosier said: Bennett Thank you going off the top of my head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Do you know the difference between realistic and depressing. It has nothing against IU but those top coaches are winning at their current job and would be stupid to leave where they are at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv1972iu Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, John S said: IDK, but was RMK a top ten coach when he came? Nope. He wasn't. Of course, that was a long time ago and times are different, as you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artesian_86 Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 52 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Just listened to the whole press conference and he never said one time that he thought he would definitely be back. Thanks IUScott... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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