NCHoosier32 Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 55 minutes ago, btownqb said: I cannot believe Mike Woodson, Steve Alford, Dave Fife, Michael Lewis are even brought up as HC candidates. Even in the least bit. uh huh. preach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Ballin Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 55 minutes ago, btownqb said: I cannot believe Mike Woodson, Steve Alford, Dave Fife, Michael Lewis are even brought up as HC candidates. Even in the least bit. Who's Dave Fife? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaloisGroupe Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 47 minutes ago, iucane said: It isn't about respect. It is about qualifications. Stevens is well qualified to take over IU (the fact he is from Indiana and viewed IU as a dream school makes people believe he should jump at the chance to coach here). Woodson with no college/recruiting experience is a questionable hire in the face of more qualified candidates even though he is from IU/played for IU and is begging for the job. I respect both of them, but only want one of them for head basketball coach. My point was not whether Stevens was a good hire from our (IU's perspective) - I think this is as universally accepted as anything can be on a fan board. But that we as fans are upset that he did not take the IU job because he was from Indiana and grew up an IU fan despite the fact that most people outside of Indiana would consider him way OVER QUALIFIED for the IU job (that is why Goodman is trolling us, for example). So if we expect an Indiana person to accept a de facto demotion to help out IU, then we should strongly consider a candidate with the same Indiana connections - even if his qualifications are not perfect (namely, lacks collegiate coaching experience). Personally, I think this board WAY underestimates Woodson's qualifications - but that is a separate point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 I’m not in a hurry because I hope we get a look with Muss. I can see them going to the Final Four so we will see. I think they are a lock for the elite 8. Even if we double his salary or blow him away at $6 M, Arkansas can easily match and probably would want to. So, then it would come down to whether he wants to come to Indiana. Unless another home run is in the works, I hope we take his temperature. I like the combo of offense and defense, the pace but with the ball security, and his NBA background for recruiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, FritzIam4IU said: This is me whenever I read about IU seriously considering Woodson or an "IU guy" absolute perfect description! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritzIam4IU Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Zuckerkorn said: Experience and accomplishments aside, there's something to be said for a coach who wants the JOB over one who wants the MONEY. I just think that any coach who is offered/takes the job will want to win regardless of how much money they are making. That is how most coaches are wired. I have to believe almost all of the coaches realize what they would be walking into if they take the IU job. That being said, Dolson should hire the best possible coach he can regardless if he is an "IU guy" or not. If there was an "IU guy" who was qualified for the position I would be all for it. I just don't think IU can afford to take a big gamble on this hire after the last 21 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybergates Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, 3Ballin said: Who's Dave Fife? https://www.linkedin.com/in/dave-fife/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artesian_86 Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, 3Ballin said: Who's Dave Fife? Barney’s grandson...🤓 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierfan1901 Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 I wouldn’t see any Coaching announcement today in my opinion, even if it’s Woodson’s birthday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artesian_86 Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 Just now, Hoosierfan1901 said: I wouldn’t see any Coaching announcement today in my opinion, even if it’s Woodson’s birthday Maybe there is something to ISP’s tweet about tomorrow’s NBA trade deadline...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Artesian_86 said: Barney’s grandson...🤓 Bernie Fine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 18 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: I agree with everything except the last sentence. He isn't an a-hole because he doesn't want to coach here. He's got one of the best sporting jobs on the planet currently. Saying Stevens is an a-hole is about on par with guys calling a girl a b*tch because she turns them down. I explained where that was coming from in another post. My liking of Brad Stevens to Indiana has always been about his ability to coach. I wasn't a fan when he was at Butler and I am not a fan at Boston. I thought he came off as kind of an asshole in his press conference. Your mileage may vary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 34 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: I've yet to hear one thing that turns me off on Woodson. Of course you will lose with a trashly run Knicks and Hawks(that he actually turned good). I could actually care less about a lack of college experience. He would have no problem. Assemble a staff with a mix of young aggressive guys. His rolodex has to be ridiculous. If he wasn't an IU guy you'd laugh at him being considered. He is about the 80th candidate for this job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iucane Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Hoosierfan1901 said: I wouldn’t see any Coaching announcement today in my opinion, even if it’s Woodson’s birthday Agree...don't think he upstages the womens game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iucane Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 Just now, btownqb said: If he wasn't an IU guy you'd laugh at him being considered. He is about the 80th candidate for this job. Agree...just give me Jason Kidd then if we want a NBA assistant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierfan1901 Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Artesian_86 said: Maybe there is something to ISP’s tweet about tomorrow’s NBA trade deadline...? No, I think they want to put all the attention to the Women’s team and their first potential Sweet 16 run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 1 minute ago, btownqb said: If he wasn't an IU guy you'd laugh at him being considered. He is about the 80th candidate for this job. This post failed at convincing me again. Anyone else care to try? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierfan1901 Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 In my opinion, I’m not expecting and announcement any time soon, since this will be Dolson most important hire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATX_sig Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 26 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: I've yet to hear one thing that turns me off on Woodson. Of course you will lose with a trashly run Knicks and Hawks(that he actually turned good). I could actually care less about a lack of college experience. He would have no problem. Assemble a staff with a mix of young aggressive guys. His rolodex has to be ridiculous. Actually he did not lose with the Knicks. He took over for D'Antoni and went 18-6 to get the team in the playoffs with a 36-30 record losing to Lebron and the Heat. Then had a very solid follow up before losing to the pacers in EC semis. IMO, he is fine coach. Can he recruit the talent? Not advocating for Woodson but sure wouldn't be disappointed if he were the guy after making Brad, Beard, Drew, Musselman, Bennett say No. Outside the box, I think Chauncey Billups will succeed no matter what route he takes. I expect his lack of IU ties and experience makes him a non factor but I think he'd be a great hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamaparker1 Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 How about we hire Woodson because he WANTS to be here. Hire Chaney as an associate head coach. Keep Hunter for recruiting. Hire Jordan Hulls as an assistant. Then we have 3 generations of IU coaches on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, iamaparker1 said: How about we hire Woodson because he WANTS to be here. Hire Chaney as an associate head coach. Keep Hunter for recruiting. Hire Jordan Hulls as an assistant. Then we have 3 generations of IU coaches on the bench. How about we leave this "headache" to Dolson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaloisGroupe Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, btownqb said: If he wasn't an IU guy you'd laugh at him being considered. He is about the 80th candidate for this job. If he wasn't an IU guy, I would not understand why he is being considered. I would not laugh at it - he is definitely more than qualified to coach at the collegiate level (no guarantee of success, but there never is). We all want to win the Indiana way (i.e., no cheating, players are actually students...). I think someone from an SEC school, for example, is a higher risk than someone that understands OUR expectations off the court. We all want the best coach for the IU job (hopefully). But the fact that Woodson surely understands some of the off-court expectations at IU bumps up his qualifications and lowers his risk of failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said: I explained where that was coming from in another post. My liking of Brad Stevens to Indiana has always been about his ability to coach. I wasn't a fan when he was at Butler and I am not a fan at Boston. I thought he came off as kind of an asshole in his press conference. Your mileage may vary. Not liking him is fine, to each their own. I just don't see the a-hole thing at all. He was honestly pretty nice in how he let us down, then he reaffirmed that he is "one of us" to the team and city he represents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iucane Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, iamaparker1 said: How about we hire Woodson because he WANTS to be here. Hire Chaney as an associate head coach. Keep Hunter for recruiting. Hire Jordan Hulls as an assistant. Then we have 3 generations of IU coaches on the bench. Hire me then. I WANT the job more than Woodson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 1 minute ago, KoB2011 said: Not liking him is fine, to each their own. I just don't see the a-hole thing at all. He was honestly pretty nice in how he let us down, then he reaffirmed that he is "one of us" to the team and city he represents. Yeah, well the Celtics suck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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