IU878176 Posted December 7, 2021 Report Share Posted December 7, 2021 1 hour ago, rico said: The NET is out. Not good. https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-the-ncaa-net-rankings-debut-with-purdue-no-1-but-plenty-of-surprises-after-that/ We don’t deserve to be top 25 but according to the NET ratings we are 15 spots behind Monmouth, 5 spots behind Navy and 27 spots behind Chattanooga. That’s laughable. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted December 7, 2021 Report Share Posted December 7, 2021 NET rankings are useless this time of year. Given our schedule, I’m surprised we are as high as we are. Win games in the B1G and we’ll move up. The NET will get sorted out as conference play unfolds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted December 7, 2021 Report Share Posted December 7, 2021 2 hours ago, rico said: The NET is out. Not good. https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-the-ncaa-net-rankings-debut-with-purdue-no-1-but-plenty-of-surprises-after-that/ St Johns 108, Syracuse 117 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWatShot Posted December 7, 2021 Report Share Posted December 7, 2021 I thought NET wasn't released until January? Isn't this the metric whose formula is unknown, and the people behind it wouldn't share it with anyone out of fear of being ridiculed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUJoe Posted December 7, 2021 Report Share Posted December 7, 2021 I think the NET is a good formula to use. I am a mathematician, and I have been able to somewhat replicate it. It is basically a blending of least-squares regression analyses with part of it being based on pure tempo-based scores, and the other part based on wins and losses only (similar to Jeff Sagarin’s old ELO Chess Rating). My version had LSU and Purdue flip-flopped at #1 and #2, and IU at #58. The thing to remember about these ratings is that while it’s a pretty good representation of what’s happened so far, it’s very early in the season and teams can move up or down 30-40 positions in a week’s time. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 7, 2021 Report Share Posted December 7, 2021 1 hour ago, IUJoe said: I think the NET is a good formula to use. I am a mathematician, and I have been able to somewhat replicate it. It is basically a blending of least-squares regression analyses with part of it being based on pure tempo-based scores, and the other part based on wins and losses only (similar to Jeff Sagarin’s old ELO Chess Rating). My version had LSU and Purdue flip-flopped at #1 and #2, and IU at #58. The thing to remember about these ratings is that while it’s a pretty good representation of what’s happened so far, it’s very early in the season and teams can move up or down 30-40 positions in a week’s time. Didn't realize math was required 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted December 7, 2021 Report Share Posted December 7, 2021 2 hours ago, IUJoe said: I think the NET is a good formula to use. I am a mathematician, and I have been able to somewhat replicate it. It is basically a blending of least-squares regression analyses with part of it being based on pure tempo-based scores, and the other part based on wins and losses only (similar to Jeff Sagarin’s old ELO Chess Rating). My version had LSU and Purdue flip-flopped at #1 and #2, and IU at #58. The thing to remember about these ratings is that while it’s a pretty good representation of what’s happened so far, it’s very early in the season and teams can move up or down 30-40 positions in a week’s time. 1 hour ago, IU Scott said: Didn't realize math was required 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 Open up at 56? Or 54? In the Net rankings. Just saw it for a second when I walked into the room. A W @ WI should give that a nice boost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 CBS newest Top 25 and 1 https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-no-1-baylor-erases-double-digit-deficit-to-survive-road-scare-at-oregon/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 #38 in the NET https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings #36 in Massey https://masseyratings.com/cb/ncaa-d1/ratings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, rico said: #38 in the NET https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings Right behind Belmont...Hey, didn't we beat them in the super-duper secret scrimmage? I smell a rat... 6 minutes ago, rico said: #36 in Massey https://masseyratings.com/cb/ncaa-d1/ratings Kentucky loses to Notre Dame but beats UNC and jumps up 11?!?! What does Ferguson say? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaloisGroupe Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 On 12/20/2021 at 8:04 AM, IUFLA said: Right behind Belmont...Hey, didn't we beat them in the super-duper secret scrimmage? I smell a rat... Maybe we need to leak the footage from the scrimmage... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted January 7, 2022 Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 We jumped 12 spots from 45 to 33 in the NET after last night's game. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaloisGroupe Posted January 7, 2022 Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Parakeet Jones said: We jumped 12 spots from 45 to 33 in the NET after last night's game. ESPN has us as a 9 seed now: https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/bracketology/ncaa-bracketology-projecting-2022-march-madness-men-field 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted January 7, 2022 Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 We have not won a road game. We keep hearing that. Teams ahead of us in the NET that have not won a road game. Gonzaga LSU Duke Purdue Kentucky Texas Tech Colorado State Scream that at your TV next time a commentator brings that up as an indictment against us. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted January 7, 2022 Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 hour ago, 5fouls said: We have not won a road game. We keep hearing that. Teams ahead of us in the NET that have not won a road game. Gonzaga LSU Duke Purdue Kentucky Texas Tech Colorado State Scream that at your TV next time a commentator brings that up as an indictment against us. i like to scream at crows when they land in my yard. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) Some interesting stuff here: https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-iowas-keegan-murray-outscores-wisconsins-johnny-davis-but-badgers-get-big-win/ Again, those three players don't just rank first, second and third in the Big Ten in scoring, they rank first, second and third in the nation in scoring. They're also second (Cockburn), fifth (Davis) and sixth (Murray) in the KenPom.com National Player of the Year standings. And what's wild is that six of the top seven players in the KenPom.com National Player of the Year standings actually play for Big Ten schools -- with the others being Ohio State's E.J. Liddell (first), Indiana's Trayce Jackson-Davis (fourth) and Purdue's Zach Edey (seventh). Edited January 7, 2022 by rico 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 9, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 #21 https://barttorvik.com/trank.php?# Projections: 21-9 overall 12-8 in the B1G #8 seed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 minute ago, rico said: #21 https://barttorvik.com/trank.php?# Projections: 21-9 overall 12-8 in the B1G #8 seed Would the 21st ranked team be an 8 seed? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 9, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: Would the 21st ranked team be an 8 seed? Not by my metrics. But I don't work for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 The West Coast Conference has three teams in the top 30 of the NET (Gonzaga, BYU, St Mary's). The ACC has one (Duke) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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