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3 minutes ago, kyhoosier29 said:

Yeah, my post was more geared at the idea we’re letting A LOT of talent go elsewhere without putting much effort into them because they appeared to be less athletic/skilled than others. Give me a slightly less talented kid that can shoot and knows how to play the game vs a kid that has the so-called more potential that takes two years to develop. This isn’t the old style college formula anymore where you have 3-4 years to watch a kid development. There’s also something to be said about the kid that knows what IU basketball stands for, means a little more. 

I understand what you are saying. Lots of misses lately. Can’t deny that. I just don’t know if you can win it all with mostly Indiana kids year in and year out. I think you can have a too much talent problem. Look at UK. They can score and score but can’t defend. I’m not sure kids truly know what IU basketball is anymore. Been a long time. 

23 minutes ago, btownqb said:

Thats a flat out lie. 

No it’s not.  2022 class? 2021 class was good. 2020…was ok. 2025 looks great. It’s real hit or miss. 

12 minutes ago, kyhoosier29 said:

So you want the kids with more stars next to their name in every occasion no matter where they are from? 

Don’t mistake best with stars. We see how a certain southern Indiana 5* turned out. You want talent whether they are from Indiana or Yemen. 

21 minutes ago, BankShot said:

This!

This is the recruiting approach that Knight used to fuel three championships (along with GOAT coaching skills), and IMO, we began to drift away from it almost immediately after he left, and haven't ever really returned to it.

We got somewhat enamored with "stars" and "better athletes" and drifted away the formula that had been so successful. You definitely need talent, but it doesn't have to be 80% "5 star" talent.

 

87 team says hello. 3 indiana kids and only one played(Alford). You take the best and if it’s Indiana kids then cool. Indiana isn’t the hotbed it once was. You do get some players that have something to prove after getting snubbed. 

6 hours ago, DC2345 said:

It's not a coincidence that Moreno visited IU and then Woodson decides to visited Mullins and Sisley right after. Those 3 are closely connected. 

Could you imagin those three with Haralson. 

1 minute ago, thirdgenhoosier said:

That’s not what I was saying.  I was agreeing that Congress likely won’t.  I was asking for the court case so I can look it up.

I misunderstood. Sorry about that. 
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/20pdf/20-512_gfbh.pdf

15 minutes ago, thirdgenhoosier said:

Oh I bet Congress does too.  I wasn’t implying that Congress would do anything.  Can you point me to a court case that says otherwise?  I’m not trying to prove you wrong.  I just don’t recall it.

If congress wanted to get involved they would’ve already. The scotus already ruled. You think congress wants to pull power from the stats after an antitrust ruling? Especially over the failing NCAA grasping for power? No way. That’s not even my opinion. Lawyers are coming out of the woodwork to blast the NCAA. If I’m a betting man I’m betting Tennessee/Virginia gets this injunction and rather quickly. 

Just now, thirdgenhoosier said:

States rights may not apply IF Congress wants to get involved.  Something about regulating interstate commerce which the business of intercollegiate athletics could easily fall under.  At least hypothetically.

The courts say otherwise. I bet congress stays out of this. The NCAA wants congress to get into this but congress isn’t in the business to hinder income of athletes. The NCAA is grasping at anything keeping them in power. 

NCAA is in a losing battle. States rights and the fact they haven't punished anyone in 3 years brings in Acquis. Tennessee is ready to do Battle. The NCAA couldn’t run an automatic car wash. 

30 minutes ago, Kdug said:

Tough to tell with Malik. Looked like an ankle, probably a sprain. Didn’t look horrible on the replay and he walked (limped) off the court on his own power, but those sort of injuries can linger.

The way he got stepped on though…happened to me and it broke my metatarsal. Hope it’s just a sprain. 

6 hours ago, JJack said:

Is there a difference between 2-4 these days?   Who you can defend then sure, but offensively there's little difference. 

I don't think there's a difference between a 2-3. 

Depends. You have to defend those spots too not just “play” them. This is the reasons teams try to get you to switch. Take advantage of a slow 3 against a fast 2. So yes I don’t want a 2 guarding a 4 if I can help it. Liam has size but isn’t overly quick. He can probably switch on some 2-4. Mbako isn’t slower than Liam by much but struggles guarding 2 guards. He’s a natural 4 etc…

2 hours ago, BobSaccamanno said:

Exactly, McNeely very openly has said he wants to be a one and done.  So, according to script, the plan is he wouldn’t even be on the roster with Sisley.   McNeely also plays a lot of 2 guard in high school.   They roll out Queen, Flagg, Newell and McNeely together.  All four over 6’8.  A bit positionless but McNeely looked like the shooting guard.  

Mcneely at the 2 on defense makes me nervous in college. Good guards and coaches would get the switch and put us in a bad spot. If he’s forced to play at the 2 I think it means Woodson didn’t do well recruiting guards again and McNeely wasn’t a one year player. Would not be good. Imho

12 hours ago, DC2345 said:

 

It had to do with his handler. Not his parents. IU is pretty much out on this one. I think the handler wanted more than IU was willing to guarantee. 

Wonder if it’s a situation like Flory. Jobs, cars for parents etc…

Pushing decisions into February. 

I’m betting he goes to overtime etc…he’s got his shoe deal and I’ve heard he’s said he might. 

1 hour ago, BGleas said:

 

 

Katic? 

3 hours ago, iuswingman said:

any reason why or just glass half full?

I’m saying I think he’s 100% IU. 

I’d be shocked if he goes to MSU. 

Another key player. Get some OL/DL studs to help. 

Big necessity! Hes big, mobile and very very accurate. TE size. Those short yard situation’s(QB sneak etc..) won’t be a problem. Has pretty big arm too. 

43 minutes ago, Hoosierdave said:

For sure, although it sounds like we’re the team to beat for Daquan Davis and Sanon is taking a visit soon. 
 

Not to mention, Galloway can come back for his Covid year. I think Gallo would do much better playing alongside a high volume shooter like Liam. Takes a lot of pressure off him to create and Gallo’s defense can help lead to some easy transition buckets for Liam. 

One real positive thing is Sanon was seeking IU staff out. He wants them to recruit him. 

22 minutes ago, btownqb said:

Any chance they keep Wilt/Randolph for that gig? 

I saw that he’s bringing his strength guys from JMU. 

When Coyle asked that NIL question he was totally annoyed. No nonsense and a classic leach/knight like response but less harsh. Sheesh Coyle. 🤣

29 minutes ago, SpiderMonkey said:

Wouldn't surprise me to see him bring his entire staff with him.  JMU seems pretty well rounded.

This is probably why he’s getting the job. Turnkey. Just need the players. 

17 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said:

And he bailed on IU as soon as a spot became available at his alma mater. Not comfortable with that history.

Why wouldn’t he? I don’t blame him for going home.