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Anyone know about the fans situation for IHSAA basketball? Was planning to try and watch Braden as much as I could this season, but COVID...
I found this on ihsaa.org, but wasn't able to find anything specific to Westfield HS. Thought I'd see if anyone on HSN knew more.
Spectator Seating (Updated 10/19/20) Q. Will spectators be allowed to attend sporting events? (Spectators should always observe social distancing and mask/face covering requirements) A. Yes, but it will be at the discretion of the host school with guidance from local health officials and in accordance with the governor’s stage 5. Organizers of events with more than 500 people in attendance will be required to submit a plan to the local health department that outlines measures to mitigate COVID-19.
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15 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said:
You may want to remember Ball's father.... I am not sold on L being as good as touted, regardless, want nothing to do with that nutjob dad
6 minutes ago, IU Scott said:A lot of my thinking was about his father
How can you not love this guy?
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1 minute ago, dwtaylor1055 said:
Since I keep seeing more and more about Hayward to Indy being a possibility, what about this?
Turner/Doug/Lamb for Hayward 14th and 26th pick?
- Turner is the main guy for this deal, McDermott cap filler and offers a bit of floor spacing, Lamb is an above average player and cap filler
- Hayward is a nice fit next to Warren and can be interchangeable with him. 6.7 rebounds per game this past year, which is more than Turner. 14th & 26th pick give us 2 chances at having a little swing at some young talent to hopefully turn into something or can package together to a team that may want to trade down.Starters: Brogdon/Vic/Hayward/Warren/Sabonis
Bench: Aaron/TJ or Sumner/resign Justin Holiday/14th draft pick or vet FA and Leaf/Goga and 26th pick and Alize Johnson at end of the bench
I'd do that deal as the Pacers. Wonder if the Celts would.
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6 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said:
Stan Van Gundy hired as Pelicans coach. Seems like a terrible hire IMO
Just learned SVG was the coach at Wisconsin for a year. Never knew that.
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Just now, DC2345 said:
The Pacers have made their hire. Nate Bjorkgen is the guy and been named the new head coach of the Indiana Pacers. He was the top assistant with the Raptors.
And not mentioned previously. Like some poster(s) said, Pacers are good at keeping it close to the vest.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nate_Bjorkgren
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39 minutes ago, DC2345 said:
I think the whole narrative that Finch is the "favorite" is over blown and probably been pushed out by his agent and not the Pacers especially since they aren't even starting their in person interviews until this week.
Agree that it's overblown, but not sure who is pushing it. Could be his agent like you said, could be the Pacers to try and gain leverage on other candidates in negotiations, could be something else. Never know what the hidden agendas are or who they're coming from IMO
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15 hours ago, go_iu_bb said:
Athletes who play football always receive a football scholarship (or no scholarship) regardless of other sports they play.
So it counts against the football team but doesn't prevent them from playing basketball because its been done numerous times.
As for Colson, since its baseball I see what you're saying and that makes it sound like he can't play basketball unless he goes to school on his own dime or gets a basketball scholarship (not happening). Another dumb NCAA rule that works against kids instead of for them.
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36 minutes ago, go_iu_bb said:
I'm not positive and might be wrong but I don't think he could walk-on to the basketball team and then have scholarship for baseball. I think he would be required to have a basketball scholarship or no scholarship at all.
I know of football scholarship athletes (Randle El) have played/walked on to basketball team before. I haven't heard anything like what you're saying before. The only thing that comes to mind is a player can't walk on to the basketball team and then receive an academic scholarship as a workaround to the scholarship limit if they were ever recruited to play bball.
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52 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said:
Why would they want it to go longer? It should be put out of it's misery.
"Game 2 of the NBA Finals between the Lakers and Heat utterly collapsed with just 4.5 million viewers. The embarrassing average is down — wait for it — 68% from last year’s Game 2, which featured a team in Canada."
"How bad is the number? It’s the least-watched NBA Finals game on record. Dropping even below Game 1’s 7.41, the lowest-viewed Finals opener in history."
Agreed. Wowsa.
When people say things like that, they must not consider that the NBA already got paid for broadcast rights and it won't earn any extra money the longer the series goes (as far as I know). ABC/ESPN would earn additional marketing money potentially if the series goes longer, but as you point out with ratings this bad, they're not certainly not going to do illegal things to make a drop in the bucket more money.
Friday night at 9EST is a terrible game time to draw in anyone who wasn't going to watch anyway.
Game 3 will probably be even lower. Factor in it was 2-0 and most expected another easy Lakers' W and it was on Sunday vs. NFL.
Tuesday might go up from Game 3 since its 2-1 now, especially if Heat get Dragic and/or Bam back, but I wouldn't expect it to beat Game 1.
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The move that people rarely bring up is his philosophy that players don't respond to coaches for very long (Pop and many others beg to differ) so he got rid of Carlisle because his 4 years were up. I know the team missed the playoffs for the 1st time in a long time, but that wasn't Carlisle's fault. He got the team which was basically completely different than the previous year to play well enough to be in playoff contention before the Jackson/Harrington (led GSW to playoffs for 1st time in awhile and upset #1 Mavs) for Dunleavy/Murphy (missed playoffs and had 11 game losing streak) trade debacle happened.
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44 minutes ago, IU Scott said:
The only reason they tanked that one year was Robinson was out for the year. The main point is that the smaller markets have to be a little lucky and draft well. San Antonio was able to get the #1 draft pick twice and wa slucky that players like Robinson and duncan was there to draft. Just like the Colts in the NFL had all of that sucess under Manning because they had a bad year to get him. Then Manning goes down the exact year that Luck was coming out. Instead it could be a year where like Baker Mayfield was the top pick in the draft.
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Just now, Hoosierhoopster said:
It was repeatedly reported and confirmed, including by Kawhi, that he specifically requested PG. There are multiple stories covering it, including from the side of the both the Clips and Thunder as to how it went down. Couldn't care less what McIntyre says "just what I've heard." That stuff is bunk. The essentially sports article you link is based on McIntyre, and is purely speculative.
I did find this in my search...
After clandestine attempts to recruit, first, Jimmy Butler and then Kevin Durant to join him on the Los Angeles Clippers, Leonard was a driving force in persuading Paul George to abruptly request a trade from the Oklahoma City Thunder to the Clippers, according to three people familiar with the negotiations who were not authorized to discuss them publicly.
Leonard informed the Clippers heading into free agency that joining them was his preference, according to a person familiar with his stance who was not authorized to discuss it publicly — but only if they could pair him with another All-Star. If not, Leonard was prepared to stay with the Raptors, who could offer a five-year deal worth $190 million, or to perhaps accept the Lakers’ invitation to form the league’s starriest trio alongside LeBron James and Anthony Davis.
Leonard and his representatives also recruited Butler and then Durant to join him on the Clippers, according to three people familiar with the talks. But when Butler went ahead with his plans to push for a sign-and-trade deal from Philadelphia to Miami — and with Durant determined to form his own marquee partnership on the Nets with Kyrie Irving — Leonard spent the past week successfully persuading George to request a trade away from the mercurial point guard Russell Westbrook and the Thunder.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/06/sports/basketball/kawhi-leonard-paul-george-clippers.html
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1 hour ago, Hoosierhoopster said:
Your view here is slanted. First, fwiw, on PG you just ignored that Kawhi specifically demanded PG to the Clips as his requirement for joining the Clips. No, PG is not LBJ, no one is, but no also, arguably the best player in the League demanded PG, and only PG (no other named star), be on the team for him to go to that team. That should tell you something.
Trying to find where he specifically asked for PG. I know his signing with the Clips was allegedly based on them getting a 2nd star to pair with him, and PG was the one they were able to get, but wasn't sure if he specifically asked for him or just a star. I do remember reading a behind the scenes article around that time that may have the answers, but was unable to locate it. Do you have any articles/links that come to mind?
On the subject of PG, not glowing reviews coming out about him...
Josh McIntyre from Fox Sports explained, “At the exit interviews, and this is just what I’ve heard, Paul George did not get rave reviews from his teammates.”
https://clutchpoints.com/clippers-rumors-paul-george-is-not-respected-la-locker-room/
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5 minutes ago, dwtaylor1055 said:
Actually PG did say the following:
"I'm under contract as a Pacer" he said. "That's all that needs to really be known. I'm here. I'm a Pacer. Again, what I have been dealing with is stories. You guys talking or teams talking. I'm a Pacer. There is no way around that. THis is my team, my group and this is where I'm at".
Sounds unfortunately similar to what VO said with just more details (writing on the wall looking back).
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56 minutes ago, 5fouls said:
If Vic would come out and say he's leaving because Pritchard drafted TJ Leaf over Tim Priller, I would understand that as well.
True. Priller had years of college experience doing what Leaf is doing now.
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18 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said:
Yes, good points.
My question here, a step removed -- I'm a long-time Pacers fan, but not as much as a P's fan as I was when they had Reggie, and then the PG years. Bird's moves with the P's toward the end really made me take a step back on my P's fandom. Love the work Pritch has put in, in building the team back and see it headed generally in the right direction -- but here's my "but" --
Isn't it fair to question why top flight players leave/want to leave the Pacers? Isn't it fair at some point to stop simply bad-mouthing players? That this thread is now actually bad mouthing Vic just blows me away.
Bad mouthing Vic???? What the hell???? The guy is a Hoosier LEGEND. He has been as strong a Hoosier supporter, during his IU career and throughout his pro career, as ANYONE. He has also been a GREAT Pacer. He came to the P's with all kinds of questions, after a seriously underwhelming time in OKC, and had most on here saying the P's got the better end of the PG trade. He became a top 20 player in one year. He was fantastic in his last playoffs, actually pretty much outplayed LBJ. Then he suffers a serious leg injury, misses all kinds of time, comes back and is clearly not fully healthy / back to his prior form, goes through NORMAL contract negotiations, gets questioned about his future, and now is on the way out.
Why doesn't anyone actually look at the Pacers brass/ownership. The owners of the P's are cheap. Seriously, they always have been. That's part of the problem. It has always been part of the problem. There's other things going on in the way they treat / handle their stars. From Bird's absolutely moronic public ridiculing of PG for not agreeing to play power forward immediately after his season-long almost career ending injury -- please name another coach or president of basketball operations who publicly ridicules the team's star/superstar? NO ONE. No one is that stupid and pig headed, except Bird, and ownership was right there with him, they did nothing. I don't mean to dwell on the PG thing (here we go, oh HH you just love you your PG, lol), I'm referencing it for what it reflected as to how ownership and the front office treat / handle their stars. Please name a top flight NBA player who would WANT to come to Indiana while Bird was ridiculing PG publicly for not playing the 4 -- obviously, out of position -- and after his almost career ending season-long injury? Please name a star who would have any interest putting up with a front office that allows that, and doesn't pay at the same level as the stars get elsewhere? Why aren't people here questioning the P's management?
If Vic would just come out and say he's leaving because Pritchard drafted TJ Leaf over OG, I'd be cool with it.
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9 hours ago, BGleas said:
Tyler Herro is a special player. This kid has some Steph Curry I’m him.
Reminds me of Rex Chapman. Even similar looks and both went to fUK.
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9 hours ago, BGleas said:
Being up 5 with under a minute to go and losing Game 1 is going to haunt the Celtics.
Tough loss and not looking good for my C’s.
- Kemba is a massive liability defensively.
- Way too many 3’s, when they won last game by passing up 3’s and attacking the basket.
- Over 20 turnovers was the difference.
- While he bounced back in a big way in the second half, you can’t have your best player go 0’fer in the first half.
- Tyler Herro is going to be a star in the NBA. Ugh, and that’s who Ainge wanted at #14 and Miami took him at #13.
Pregame showed Stevens talking to the team. Paraphrasing what he said, they need to attack the basket. They're at their best when they attack the basket. Don't stop attacking the basket.
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17 hours ago, The Daily Hoosier said:
He's a good athlete and very impressive physically. If his skills catch up over the next three years of high school he will be able to go wherever he wants.
Agree. In the video in your article he looks like a college freshman (or older) physically. I always wondered how scouts/evaluators approach someone like that playing against athletically inferior opponents because inevitably they will eventually play against equal/superior ones.
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17 hours ago, Hoosierhoopster said:
Assuming he/the Lakers win the title, I think this year is LBJ's last title. He's amazing, but you can't fight Father Time forever.
Can't fight father time forever, but too many variables to say this would be his last title. Ring chasing vets may come calling for the minimum. What if Giannis decides to go there? LeBron's decline is inevitable, but he led the league in assists this year for the 1st time in his career, so he's already shown that he can adapt to his current situation (team, decline, etc.).
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Entertaining (to me at least) article about the Clippers. Warning NSFW language that may be offensive to some.
https://www.theroot.com/the-temecula-clippers-are-a-disgrace-1845074418
https://twitter.com/TheTrackMamba/status/1306078393767727111
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Can anyone do a courtesy wellness check on @Hoosierhoopster?
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15 hours ago, 5fouls said:
The new board format tells me that the most popular date for this thread was July 3, 2019. What the hell happened in the NBA on July 3, 2019?
I bit and looked. Mostly a Pacers discussion after @IU Scottsaid the Pacers should trade for KAT with a little where will Kawhi sign, benefits of signing in a income tax free-state, etc. sprinkled in.
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I got the notification for B/R on this. If true...