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4 minutes ago, BGleas said:

He doesn't call anyone else that. He doesn't call any of the players from his era that, and we know stuff went on in the 80's and 90's. He only calls Langford that, and he does it as a member of the media, not as a former player in a bar or something. 

It's 100% meant to disparage Langford's character and as far as what has been reported, the Langford's did everything above board. Taking shoe money to fund an AAU program, while certainly a workaround, is not against the rules. 

Dakich has not reported anything that justifies him calling Langford "shoe guy".

 

Agree to disagree. You don't like Dakich, that's fine. I understand why people don't. 

I enjoy listening to him and understand his perspective. I'm not saying he's a perfect human being, or says all the right things.

He has a radio show. People enjoy listening to him. Being himself has made his show popular. Why change?

3 minutes ago, IUFLA said:

Wasn't he on that cheaters staff?

The IU administration wanted him on there, bud. Sampson didnt.

The administration knew who they hired, in a former cheater.

1 minute ago, btownqb said:

He had that leeway the first decade he mocked IU. 

And what about the second decade? When they did everything in their power to avoid IU alumn to coach. When Glass told him they wanted to de-emphasize IU basketball?

15 minutes ago, BGleas said:

Right! Calling Langford "shoe guy". That's not disrespectful? That's not meant to disparage Langford's character? 

Does taking money from a shoe company behind the scenes disparage character?

If people don't think funny business went on behind the scenes, I got nothing for you. And it is what it is in college basketball.

But I think Dan has a little more of the scoop than we do

23 minutes ago, BGleas said:

How about calling Archie Miller 'lil Archie' for 4 years? You don't think that wasn't meant to be disrespectful, belittled and mock Archie at every turn?

 

There's a lot more to that than Archie simply not winning.

I really don't care that Dan is a meanie sometimes. Some do. That's fine.

My point is, Dan has a little more leeway in my mind to criticize IU basketball than fans do. Dan watched the University that he put his heart and soul in for years just turn their back on former players and coaches. He watched them hire cheaters and do everything in their power to change the culture of IU. That'd piss me off too.

7 hours ago, btownqb said:

You didnt watch the interview? 

Yep. Sure did.

Dan is emotional about IU basketball, and has a right to be. Woodson is a grown ass man. He will be just fine.

Dan has criticized the coaching when it's bad and compliments it when it's good. I guess i don't get the hysteria for "going too far" when Dan says it's the worst coaching he's "ever seen". Obviously an exaggeration. We all exaggerate. All of us. He did it to prove a point that the coaching was piss poor at the time.

I can guarantee you Woody doesn't take it to heart and will be on Dakichs show soon. 

2 minutes ago, FKIM01 said:

Yeah, it's for this reason I have no respect for Jockitch.  He was completely disrespectful of Woodson during that slide and if I were Woodson, I'd tell him to eff off after that kind of crap.  It's one thing to be critical and it's an entirely different thing to be the disrespectful ass that Jockitch was at that point.

No Dan, the worst coaching was when you took over Sampson's team (a good team with a lot of success that year) and won like one game the rest of the season, you effing door-dashing loser.

So what were the comments said that you found completely disrespectful?

19 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said:

Agree to disagree.  I don’t think you get it.  He says plenty of things anyone on here would agree with.  You’re not getting the point.  He absolutely, positively, without a shadow of a doubt, makes ad hominem attacks on people.  It’s abnormal.  Whether he’s invested time in IU is irrelevant.  He’s got a screw loose.  I mean that literally.  He is an oversized child.  

No, I "get it" just fine.

He has a radio show. He literally has to talk hours a day. Does he stir stuff up? Absolutely. It's his job. People listen every day just to pick a 5 second segment out of his show to whine and criticize what he said.

But I love people that act like he has some agenda against IU. The guy literally played and coached for a LONG time, AND was BEGGING the administration to hire Woody, or another former player. And when they hired Woody, soooo many of you whined and complained. But I guess since you posted your complaints on a message board, it makes them more righteous than when he complains on the radio.

He has an issue the way IU basketball has been treated by the school for the last several decades. He, dozens of former players, and thousands of fans do too.

15 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said:

I know what you’re saying but I think it’s more than that.  If that’s what Dan did, I don’t think people would object at all.  It’s not the criticism.   It’s that he attacks people. He doesn’t just criticize a player, he belittles him, and he uses his platform to literally bully.  It’s not even deniable.

As for content, there are times where I agree with the substance.  But he has an erratic performance where his personal ego outweighs literally everything else.  That’s an oversized child.  Most people get over that after junior high.  You would need a psychologist to understand the why but it might be because he has been in the public eye via a high profile program with a ton of attention.  He contradicts himself, sometimes in the same paragraph, and is all over the place with his opinions.  As a whole, he doesn’t make a lot of sense.  

If he came on and were critical, that’s fine.  It’s a different issue.

 

Will have to agree to disagree. I've never heard him "attack" anyone that hasn't "attacked" someone else.

I think he says things that a lot of people think, but don't say. And people think he's a bad guy for saying, despite thinking it themselves. 

Dan has invested a lot in IU, and frankly, the university hasn't really shown an appreciation and acknowledgement of that. Dan cleaned up IU and took the lashings when Sampson got fired. The administration put him in a shitty spot. Clean up the program. Well, in order to do that, wins were going to be sacrificed. He was the "bad guy" at the time when, looking bad, he should be applauded for having the balls to do the clean up job that he did. Instead, the administration treated him like an outcast and sent him on his way. He is still criticized from time to time for his "coaching" during that time. Folks, with the job he was given, coaching was the last thing on everyone's mind. He was put in a no win situation and took the brunt of it.

2 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said:

don't know...I listened to Dakich about 2 weeks ago after one of the 5 losses in a row, and he blistered the staff and the players...said it was the worst coaching he'd ever seen while watching IU basketball...

Now, I know Dakich wants listeners, and part of that is inciting his audience, but I'm pretty sure Coach Woodson isn't going to stand for some yokel saying stuff like that...
 

Just one of many comments about ol’ Dan that I could copy and paste 

Did you feel like the coaching staff and players were playing up to standards? I sure as he'll didn't. My God, go back and look at the in game comments from the people on this board.

Many of us are fans. Never played for IU. Hell, many of us didn't even go to school at IU, and we feel invested and critical.

Dan played AND coached much of his life at IU. I think he's got a little more sweat equity in it, and has a right to be critical.

I'm not saying he's always right, but I feel like the only difference between his comments and most comments on this board are the fact that he says them on the radio.

22 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said:

He played the IU fight song after the game and was happy about the win today.

Yeah I don't understand that comment about Dakich. He's been rightfully critical of the program, and positive about the program when it's deserving.

And he was on board with the Woodson hire all along, unlike some people here ragging on him.

1 hour ago, BGleas said:

Also, since I wasn't in the game thread, was there any mention of Dickenson blatantly elbowing Galloway in the head on his 3pt shot?

Like, I've never seen a shooter jab his elbow directly to the right on his follow through like that.

I was shocked the refs didn't review it, until I remembered how horrible the refs were. 

Just mentioned this. That was laughable. Blatant elbow to the head.

2 hours ago, BGleas said:

The officiating was borderline criminal. I can't remember a more lopsided, absolutely atrocious piece of reffing. 

I know I certainly complain about officiating, but I never think it's a conspiracy or anything, I just think refs suck. 

But I was literally during the game questioning out loud whether or not the Big 10 was told IU had no chance at the tourney, so they we're rigging the game for Michigan. 

That is how bad and blatantly biased the officiating was. 

After just watching the game, I have to agree.

-Michigan gets away with pushing the IU offensive player when getting beat. They push them and get them going fast enough that they aren't able to make a move toward the basket. Saw that a lot in the first half.

-the fouls on Xavier and Durr were criminal. Durr had his feet set, was hit in the gut hard, and lost form. Terrible call.

-Every little thing in college basketball gets reviewed. Dickinson shoots a three and elbows Galloway with his not shooting elbow. I'm no expert, but not many people swing their off elbow around.

Dakich also thinks we are in.

12 minutes ago, IUFLA said:

I still wouldn't trade him for Curbelo...

Why not?

He's essentially never used his right hand either. He's too easy to defend. No jump shot, and you know the hand he's going to. Too easy.

If there was a leader on this team, those five players would feel a new low. If your TJD, there should be some serious reckoning if your kept from the NCAA because of them. 

Good for Woody. Don't give in now. 

Just now, Proud2BAHoosier said:

I mean come on, IU is fighting for it's NCAA life and this BS happens?

Are you kidding me??

Exactly. This kids can sure talk on social media... then their actions show nothing to represent that.

These fouls are unreal

Trayce needs to get it through his head that this isn't a good match-up for him. He can still create with the ball in his hands. 

1 minute ago, Hippopotamo said:

Cockburn’s pick and roll defense is pretty bad. His lateral quickness is slow and he’s not that athletic. 

Galloways bucket is exactly how you attack the paint with Cockburn

Right now, this is a different team as far as valuing the basketball. I feel like we are finally getting good looks and valuing each possession

Just now, Hoosierfan1901 said:

How does Cockburn have no fouls?

Because he's not fouling? There's not been a single sequence where he's coming close to fouling