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4 hours ago, Jackson Kellogs said:

There is a rumor floating around that Galloway was considering transferring to Butler. Supposedly loved Matta, but decided to stay in Bloomington. 

Given his game, I feel like Galloway is getting quite a bit of playing time.

He essentially has no outside shot. And getting a ton of minutes in the Big Ten. Not sure what transferring does, unless he has little faith in Woodson and a ton in Matta.

I don't believe that one at all. But crazier things have happened.

3 minutes ago, KoB2011 said:

I don’t want to pile on Geronimo. But some of you are so, so unfair to the kid with the expectations you’re putting on him. He’s an athletic, undersized 4 that isn’t particularly skilled at this point.

His advanced metrics don’t mean much because he didn’t play many minutes, it’s not fair to think you can literally double his minutes and still get high level production.

Its not fair to assume he’s going to play at the wing at all. He didn’t do it last year and he had every chance in the world to earn minutes there. I mean look no further than the Northwestern game where we were absolutely desperate for perimeter players and Anthony Leal played twice as many minutes as he did.

I look Jordan and think he’s a good kid, I’m thrilled he came back. I absolutely don’t think he’s remotely as good as the three guys in front of him at the 4 and 5, and I don’t think he has anything resembling perimeter skills at this point in time. I think if he stays another three years he can be a really nice player by the time he’s a senior, but right now he’s a spot minute guy that can be successful when he is put in specific situations. Expecting more than that is setting him up for failure IMO. 

I feel like the vast majority on this board were REALLY, REALLY hoping and glad that Geronimo came back.

Great news for IU basketball.

I really like this for Reneau. When was the last time a kid of his status come in without the weight of the world on his shoulders? Not being looked upon by a fan base to carry the load? Being able to go at it in practice with two seasoned, excellent players in Race and Trayce. Two guys with two different body types and skillsets.

This team has a chance to be really, really special.

1 hour ago, Indykev said:

Is this our next commit?

I really hope so

14 minutes ago, WRSMick55 said:

https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/iu-basketball-2023-target-coen-carr-planning-return-visit-eyeing-august-decision/
 

Wants to visit again.

Yes please

Brooks can't shoot the three. Doesn't grab many rebounds. Under 50% FG last year. I'll take Geronimo.

22 minutes ago, DC2345 said:

Carr reminds me of Zion except he's about 70-80 lbs lighter. 

It's funny you say that. I thought the exact same thing. They both play exactly the same way.

Gonna be honest, I would love to get Carr in this class. Insanely athletic. Plays with a reckless abandon, and seems to have pretty good handles. 

Would be an Uber athletic team. He and Geronimo 🤯

12 minutes ago, Seeking6 said:

Pretty big name to enter the portal this morning. Malachi Smith is now available. Averaged 20 for Chattanooga....I could see a few Big 10 teams who need guards making a call right away. 

I would hope IU calls. Has size. Shot 40% from three this year.

There's no denying this kid has a picturesque jumper.

If he can just come in a few minutes a game and knock in a few threes, we will be a MUCH better team.

4 minutes ago, Between2Halls said:

Looking forward to Dexter Dennis shutting him down 

2 hours ago, rico said:

How much $ does college basketball generate?  ESPN, CBS, NCAA, etc. have made trillions off of these kids.  Not to mention each school cashing in.  

And tbh your stance doesn't really matter right now.  Time to embrace it or go hang out with Scott in 1980 something.

Virtually any laborer that works for a Fortune 500 company could make this same argument.

The only way to fight it is quit, strike, or create an alternative.

15 minutes ago, rico said:

No, no they didn't.

How not? Especially when there's alternatives, such as Europe, sitting out a year, etc.

You know what you get when you take a scholarship and play under the NCAA. Don't think it's worth it? Don't do it.

13 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said:

Here’s my question: let’s say Miami has a rough year next year and Pack struggles. Granted I don’t think Miami is a rabid fan base for basketball by any stretch of the imagination but could you imagine fans/student section? Wouldn’t surprise me at all if they’re like “You’re getting paid $400k a year and this is all we get?!” And what about other current players on Miami that don’t have any money? Could that cause resentment toward him and cause team chemistry issues?

It's no doubt going to add pressure on players. But at the end of the day, this is what many of them wanted, and those are the expectations when you take the $800,000. A company doesn’t hire someone for top dollar and put up with mediocre results. Whether they want to admit it or not, they are "professionals" in a sense now.

I dont think many kids will ever understand that. They are 18-22 years old, I wouldn't expect them to. But they'll learn real quick, there's no such thing as free money. People and universities that pay that kind of money expect results. No excuses. Kids better learn how to deal with those expectations. 

16 minutes ago, btownqb said:

 

 

Looks and sounds like the staff doesn't believe Evans is a lock for Oregon

6 minutes ago, FKIM01 said:

Eh...your cherry-picking a bit there.  I looked him up and he's 33.3% for his career thus far.  He at least shows promise from distance.

And the ones he hit were some of the biggest shots in crunch time.

54 minutes ago, KDB said:

 

Well. That certainly doesn't hurt anything 

18 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said:

He attempted 4.4 threes per game, more than any IU player, while making 29%. Stewart attempted 4.0/game, making 39%. Kopp attempted 3.1/game, making 36%

I'm not worried at all about the outside shooting, and the attempts (although you make a good point).

Stewart and Kopp just weren't very good defensively, at least the games I watched.

I guess my point is, if you bring a guy like Dennis in, give him a few good open looks a game and get phenomenal defense, that's better than finding a 35% 3 point shooter that plays putrid defense. I think Dennis offers more than that player.

I think if we can put Kopp in a position to come off the bench and primarily be a 3 point shooter, we will be much better off. I think at this point, outside of Dennis, we'd just be adding more Kopp’s. Not that there isn't a role for a player like that, but do you need two players in that role?

Just now, Hoosier51 said:

Your probably right that there might not be any shooters out there, that is why I would just stick with the team the way it is. We don't need another inefficient non shooter getting ample amount of playing time. And make no mistake if he does come to the Hoosiers he isn't joining them to get 10 to 15 minutes a game only. He has been a starter so they are going to play him over 20 minutes a game I would guess.

Inefficient in what sense?

We don't really know what we are getting yet in Schifino, Bates, and Gunn. Kopp is what he is.

A known commodity that will at bare minimum give you lock down defense and decent handles wouldn't be the worst thing in the world when we are "hoping" freshmen and guys that played little last year suddenly produce.

1 minute ago, Hoosier51 said:

That isn't why they are going after Dennis, they are going after him for his defense, not his supposed in your mind ability to break defense down off the dribble. We need shooters and he isn't it. Bates and Galloway MIGHT improve their shooting but it would be nice to have a player that is already a good shooter if they don't.

At the end of the day, they are going after him because they think he improves the team.

Who are the shooters out there that solve the need of shooting without creating a major liability in another area? There really aren't any. Pack would really be the only one I can think of, and we aren't in the running for him. All others that have experience are 35'ish% 3 point shooters. And you could make a case for or against whether that will translate to this team. Whether it's style of play, level of competition, etc.

There's no shooter out there that just wows anyone without being a bum in another area.

2 minutes ago, IU_Realist said:

Indiana was ranked 24th on D with Kopp and Stewart playing 25 minutes per game. It’s not as needed as a shooter.  Dennis was horrible offensively with a PER of 12.9 during his time at WSU.  He doesn’t solve our horrendous shooting and our 95th ranked offense. Indiana has an issue here with lacking shooters and two bigs who have not proven to be able to shoot the ball as well.  It makes us easier to guard when we just dump it down because teams can leave players alone.  

I agree 100%. But are we going to have the luxury of having Trayce down low on defense?

I want a shooter too. Absolutely fills a void. But if it's another Miller Kopp, are we solving anything? I don't know. Maybe

Just now, Hoosier51 said:

 We need shooters more then we need defense. His last three seasons he shot 29.7 and twice 33.6 while averaging 8.4 PTS. Yes his defense would be a plus but his offense leaves a lot to be desired. Having an athletic wing is nice but having shooters would open the floor up so much more for our bigs. His fg% the last three seasons is 35.3 36.7 and 34.8, not exactly stellar. We would be gaining defense but not much on the offensive end.

If they do bring him in it is whatever, but I don't think he would move the needle much for the Hoosiers.

We say that until the hole in the defense is gaping. So many times last year we watched Kopp and Stewart's guy drive right around them through the lane only to put Trayce and Race in a predicament.

I agree with you 1000%. Shooters are absolutely needed. But he's essentially the same player as Kopp. And if we really reaching our potential, Kopp is coming off the bench.

If McNeil can hold his own defensively and shoot it at a high clip, then absolutely. He fills a bigger need. 

1 minute ago, IowaHoosierFan said:

Umm were are we going to find the scholarships for these transfers?  With the assumption that Trace and Race come back, we have zero left correct?

After Malik, we have zero left (assuming Trayce comes back).

2 minutes ago, NCHoosier32 said:

BTW - i meant Tamar, not Emoni.  personally i don't want the WV kid or Dennis.  i want Kopp coming off the bench and Tamar and JHS starting.  

The problem with that is, we really don't know what we're getting in JHS. Relying on JHS and Tamar could be dangerous if we are looking to take the next step. We've seen flashes of what Tamar can provide, but he's still relatively unproven.

I'd love to get Dennis. A veteran, athletic guy that loves defense. Good slasher and has a good shot. Shot it well as a freshman but regressed a bit for whatever reason. I think he fits in really well and would provide a ton of flexibility. We wouldn't have to rely on freshmen or unproven guys.

23 minutes ago, NCHoosier32 said:

Bates will hopefully be that guy.  if we get another from the portal i wish it would be the kid from WV.

I'm really not sure what McNeil would add moreso than Kopp would. Both are shooters that are "meh" on the defensive end. If we didn't have Kopp, I'd be all about it.