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Just now, Between2Halls said:

The story of this season for me is our inability to shoot the 3 along with our inability to guard the 3. It’s perplexing. 

We don’t shoot any…

We’re 0-1 from 3 at nearly the end of the first half. That’s not going to win you games. This style of play is awful. It’s ridiculous 

9 minutes ago, 94hoosier said:

start winning games

Will be hard since our guard play lacks playmaking ability.

@BruceDouglas - yup, looks like I was dead wrong. We have 3 five starts but doesn't matter when you have no perimeter play and a coach that is clearly struggling in finding the pulse of this team.

12 hours ago, IU Scott said:

So we got Christian Laettner to play for IU

Except Laettner was good. Gunn and X...opposite of good.

2 hours ago, NotIThatLives said:

I've seen you repeat this twice now.  I'm just a casual observer and in 2.5 years I've sensed very little ego.  What's your connection to the program or Woodson and what are some examples of this huge/high ego?

Have you seen his press conferences? Watch his press conference after Nebraska. His answers to reporters…He also needs to show some accountability instead of placing blame on his players. His unwillingness to change schematics?

20 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said:

Yes, and reportedly Woodson did not like the idea that he needed help and he barely listened to Matta...if you believe the rumor mill.

Woodson has incredible stubbornness and a high ego, it’s why it makes it so hard to believe he will just retire or even make a change to his coaching style. He is set in his ways despite the fact that everyone else sees differently. Some will ask, “surely his assistants see this style doesn’t work?” As for his assistants, they’re “yes sir” assistants and their primary purpose is to recruit and bring recruits on campus. Are they good at that in the NIL age? Probably differing opinions. You be the judge 

I’m actually looking forward to Spring Football and beyond. In Coach Cig we trust! Basketball has been a disaster.

19 minutes ago, DWB said:

I've had this thought for a while, and have not shared it, and I haven't seen it addressed (so far) in this thread, or others.

We have talent. Good talent. It doesn't appear to be used properly.

Watching the body language of players, as well as how they play, I've come to the conclusion that we're just not mentally tough. Gallo, Walker & Cupps are. Jury is still out on Mac. Ware is weak, X is out of control, Gunn is who knows what, Banks seems lost most of the time.

Knight was great at developing mental toughness. You'd have to be mentally tough to endure all of his "intensity". I don't think the staff has developed any mental toughness. All of the guys on the team are great people with great personalities, but I don't see them as mentally tough on the floor.

You look at teams like PU, Wisky, Rutgers. They're all mentally tough. Always great effort. We don't have that.

Oh…we’re definitely soft. There’s no question about that. 

2 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said:

Was just looking at the B1G standings and stats.  IU is the only B1G team to allow more points than scored on the full season. That includes 7-11 Michigan

Yup…it’s a product of getting blown out multiple times and winning by small margins. I fully expect next game to be another blowout to add to Woodson double digit loss statistics.

30 minutes ago, Indykev said:

no

I completely get it. Just “throwing darts on the wall” to try and come up with ideas that might make it easier for Woodson to walk away. 

1 hour ago, DC2345 said:

The situation with Fife and Matta was a red flag. Fife govt fired however Matta left to be a HC at Butler and Woodson technically wasn’t his boss. That said Woodson didn’t listen to his suggestions because he wanted to do things “his” way. Which as a coach I get but “his” way hasn’t worked 

Woodson has a very large ego and is stubborn. 

Just now, HoosierDPU95 said:

I'm wouldn't say Woodson is owed getting another year and I'm not saying he should be fired but it would be extremely tricky to fire him after just 3 years. I think Dolson would have to have the backing from the power alums and some agreement from who he would bring in before pulling the trigger. I don't see either of those things happening.

As @DC2345 said, Woodson deciding to retire is probably the only exit scenario and I would be shocked if he decided to do that.

Allow Woodson give his blessing to the next head coach 

38 minutes ago, DC2345 said:

The only way that Woodson isn’t the coach is if he decides he can’t do the job and retires. I don’t see that happening but you never know. I also didn’t see things going this far off the rails but here we are. Also Fisch speaking out about he culture of the program isn’t a good look at all for Woodson because his words carry serious weight around the Indiana program.

This is my sentiment…but, like you, didn’t think the season would be going this far off the rails. I fully expect to get our asses handed to us against Illinois. I think it may be more probable (albeit slight) that Buckner and May have a talk with Woodson. 

40 minutes ago, Parakeet Jones said:

That line about 10 new players galls me. @5fouls has broken down numerous times why that number is not the most accurate because of walk ons. The most galling thing about that statement though is that it’s likely that we are in the same boat next year with new players. Are we going to be 19 games into next season still trying to figure crap out?  

Very good point! 

3 minutes ago, FWIUFan said:

I think we have forgotten how unimpressed most were with the CMW hire when it was announced.  

What seemed to placate fans was we were given some sort of holy trinity of BB in the deal.  CMW with NBA experience and a modern approach to our play. for the present, Matta for college experience, and last Fife for the future.  Now Matta is gone and successful once again.  Fife has gone who knows where.  CMW is left standing on his own now and the emperor has no clothes.

Unfortunately, he has shown us nothing more than CAM 2.0 for now his 3rd year.  It's Groundhog Day with men's IUBB.  I see no evidence of any change for this season and no evidence of improvement next year.

IUBB is a meritocracy.  I'm officially giving my vote of NO CONFIDENCE.  He should retire or be fired at the end of this year.  If not both he and Dolson need to be fired and replaced.  

Good points…you should also mention he inherited a generational talent in TJD.

4 minutes ago, 5fouls said:

Comments like this from Woodson concern me more than anything else right now.  It's basically an admission that he has no idea how to fix it.    

Zero clue…it’s something Kenny Payne would say. 

1 hour ago, BGleas said:

Do you believe Mike Woodson is the guy to make this a top 25 team next season?

If the answer is yes, then you give him that next year that he deserves. If the answer is no, then you have to make the move after the season. 

You can't lose a year because the coach 'deserves' the chance. 

As each game/day/week goes by with the lack of player development, team development, accountability, borderline Kenny Payne type answers, unwillingness to change schematics that clearly don’t work, the question to your answer is increasingly no. Now, if you go back, I’ve always said it will be hard to nudge Woodson into retirement due to the other factors involved…but again, as each day goes by, it’s seems like…as improbable as it was….a little more probable that you may have those other factors/people talk to Woodson. This is getting bad and IUBB doesn’t deserve this. 

Splendid 

26 minutes ago, Cbp4IU said:

Welp.  Woodson just said we are still trying to figure each other out.” He realizes we are onto game like 20 right?

STOP!? Lol 

Embarrassing 

Buckner and May might actually have to talk Woodson into retiring. This is becoming more probable by the day. 

Just now, BobSaccamanno said:

I could do an entire tirade on Woody and where his head is at, starting with him making Scott fly out to meet him for the interview to quashing the Matta/Fife help, to him acting like this job is the victory lap for his career.   But I’m not going there out of restraint and no one wants to hear it.  

Woodson too damn stubborn. Quite frankly, he needs to be humbled. 

7 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

Our players are just  total idiots. There has to be a total rebuild of this program.

We have start suspending players now