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Reneau could grab a handful of those minutes if need be, but I don't like him as a full time low post 5. Honestly someone like Walker would be perfect. Doesn't need to be a scoring threat, isn't looking for starting minutes, but is a serviceable backup in the post.

Thank God Ted Valentine didn't have any offspring that followed in dad's footsteps.

Goode yes, Anderson likely not, haven't heard anything recent on the other two.

Hey, you weren't the only one. I loved Gunn as a prospect also. A lot of people here did. Wasn't trying to single you out, but the point I was trying to make with that is a lot of us have recency bias. Yes, Gunn didn't turn out, but there was a lot of people at one point that thought he would. In hindsight, yes, it's easy to say that "We absolutely needed another guard". Go back a year and while that's certainly not a bad idea, you've got two intriguing prospects that could potentially fill that role.

Nobody is saying it needs to be. But everyone acts as if they knew Gunn and Banks couldn't hack it at this point last year, when that simply isn't the case. If Woodson cuts them, then they transfer and turn out to be serviceable if not good players, then he gets the "He can't evaluate talent, look, he let those two go and they turned out to be good" response.

They were in the program for one year prior to the start of last season, and sat behind 4 viable backcourt options. I'm not saying they should have stayed. In fact I think them transferring was the right move. What I'm saying is that going into last season, they weren't the disasters they turned out to be. They were much more unknown.

You sure about that?

So the fact they didn't outplay a first round draft pick, an established senior PG, an upperclassman glue guy and a 4th serviceable D1 guard as freshmen means that they automatically aren't worth it? Take hindsight out of who they turned out to be. You've got two 4* rated guards, one of them top 100 sitting behind the 4 individuals I just mentioned.

Yeah, recruiting rankings are wrong all the time, but neither of those two had a chance to establish themselves, and the biggest jump often comes between the freshman and sophomore year. They were behind X, JHS, Galloway and Bates, who did prove to be a serviceable high-major player at Mizzou this past year.

A freshman averages 9 minutes, 2.4 points, 2.1 boards, doesn't have enough of a sample size to truly evaluate his 3 point shooting. Another freshman in a different year averages 20 minutes but only 3.6 points and 1.7 boards and shoots 18% from three. Sounds comparable to Gunn and Banks, right? Congratulations, you just cut Juwan Morgan and Trey Galloway.

You're going to cut loose two 4* recruits after their freshman year?

Here's the issue I have.....it's not like Cupps, Gunn and Banks were the equivalent to the random guys Crean was getting to fill out a roster in '08. Cupps was Ohio Mr. Basketball and Gunn and Banks were both 4* recruits. Did Gunn and Banks have much of an impact the year prior? No, but they were behind JHS who developed faster than anyone thought, X, Galloway and Bates, who wound up having a decent season at Mizzou. It's not like they were sitting behind nobodies either. If you're recruiting 4* guards like Gunn and Banks, at some point....gotta see if they can play.

I would hope in his mind that he knows he isn't NBA material, so not as if he's trying to improve draft stock

Maybe he's like Goode and actually chasing a degree.

11 of the 18 B10 universities, 5 of the 8 Ivys, plus Duke, Stanford & Berkeley. I find it hard to believe that every single one of those institutions has rampant antisemitism occurring.

I would have rather had Priller

This is a total off the cuff remark with no real life information whatsoever.....but Furst and Goode were AAU teammates.....

So just because I say something is going to become obsolete/replaced, it means I've had that thought that long also? I could say "With my new robotic mower that I bought yesterday, my old mower can go the way of the dodo". I obviously wouldn't have had that thought very long, yet it holds the same context. Goode rumors have been flying since last Friday. He was in Bloomington for Little 5 visiting his brother.

Furst is supposedly hanging it up to focus on med school.

I don't believe he did. He announced pretty quick that he was coming back. No need to go through the process if you know you're not ready.

If we're going to take a flyer on someone, make it an upperclassman. That way they're not tying up an open slot for too long if it doesn't work.

Presuming this is a formality, given that he was just in B-town and likely already knows campus somewhat.

As a KSB alum, 100% agree. Love seeing that.

It's called covering his own posterior. UI fans don't like it when players defect to the east. They all but had sniper scopes pinned on Eric Gordon. 😂