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I doubt we see this because its sounding more like this is going to be a gap year for the Pacers with Oladipo being out for half of it, meaning our pick is going to be a little more valuable. Cavet, Durant and Irving to nets as being highly suspected this morning. Bring in Russell on an aggressive gamble, trade for EJ, package one of the bigs and push the chips in. Screw the cap finally and bring Bojan back too. Let's go.

Are you suggesting diminished trade value and they would take me up on my offer?

If they take 2 2nd rounders for EJ, I'll send you a $25 gift card of your choice just for speaking that crazy idea into existence. Who else can we get for basically nothing? Wonder if Denver would give us Gary Harris for 3 2nd Rounders?

Yeah. What does Philly gain in this? I've yet to see any of this make sense. Wouldn't Philly want Gordon? Reddick has Lakers written all over him, imo, so they need a shooter.

@BGleas. Aren't the Celts extremely small right now?

I could see Thad being the one that is gone but who knows. The need is scoring. Warren and Bojan would stretch the heck out of a defense, with one of them guarding the other teams 4.

So it will only convey if it's a lottery? It won't be a lottery for as long as Giannis is around and healthy.

Why did Boston do this? Milwaukee pick will be around 28-30 next year and gave up Baynes for nothing. @BGleas https://boston.cbslocal.com/2019/06/20/celtics-trade-aron-baynes-to-phoenix-as-part-of-draft-night-trade/

Why is no one talking about this? 6'8" wing that shot 43% from three. Owed 3 years 35 mil. Thad or Bojan has to be out. This guy could be a steal. Only 25 years old.

Tj Warren. Is this a sign that bojan is gone? https://sports.yahoo.com/indiana-pacers-trade-for-phoenix-suns-tj-warren-nba-draft-213214889.html

So help me get this right. If the Lakers clear the space they can sign a max. Then they can go over the luxury to fill out the roster? Is that correct? You just can't go over the cap to get a max. You must have the space available before July 6. No clue why anyone would help them. So dumb if anyone does. As constructed Lakers are 1 injury away from resting the other guy and being so horrible tickets will be free the rest of the season. Don't help them.

Rumors floating Director LeBron is making up for lost salaries in Space jam. 2 roles. Problem for Khawi since he has zero personality and doubtful acting ability.

I like Barrett but he won't be there. After that there's lots of guys to like but no one that's going to start on your team next year or any guaranteed guy in the years to come. I like rui, culver and Hunter. Just off the top of my head. No sense in getting rid of Turner and a puck for that

For conversation and info. Read this the other day. https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2019/06/why-nba-sign-and-trades-are-rare-2.html

I'm calling smoke and mirrors on the Turner and 18 for the #4. Just trying to drum up a bigger offer.

Dan Patrick just said he's going to get 3 years 100 million somewhere and Harrison Barnes is goimg to get near max, he scored 11 points a game.

May be more of a realistic indication of where Vic is. Hold the horses and go all in when he's 100% in 20-21

Two conflicting reports. I'll go with Woj until told otherwise. • The Pelicans are open to waiting to complete the trade to help the Lakers with free agency, but if they move the No. 4 pick to a third team, it could complicate matters because that team or the Pelicans would not likely have the No. 4 pick during Summer League from July 5-15. (Tania Ganguli, Los Angeles Times) • The Pelicans and Lakers plan to complete the Davis trade on July 6, but if they wait to July 30, Los Angles would end up with $32.5 million in cap space compared to $23.7 million. (Adrian Wojnarowski and Bobby Marks, ESPN.com)

Do you think Jimmy Butler will take 8-9 million less per year? By all accounts, unless the pelicans are trying to make the Lakers a super team are not going to allow them to wait. Crazier things have happened but no one sees Davis not taking the trade kicker. You are a smart and reputable poster. Did you read your first article all the way through? It explains all this.

They are in a predicament with max players. From my understanding it's not like the Yankees. https://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/la-sp-anthony-davis-trade-lakers-salary-cap-20190616-story.html

Could Ball and Jrue be redundant? Could they be interested in trading for Turner? I would be. Say LeBron or Davis gets injured, they would shut the other one down too and that pick becomes a top 3 real quick. They are going to limit Lebrons minutes as is, so they will likely be a 6-8 seed. Granted they could get kemba, butler, Tobias, or another high quality player, so we will see.

What will ultimately happen is some team will sign a horrible max contract like Charlotte to super max their guy, i cant even think of his name, kemba, there it is. Or cp's contract in houston. Those are how you take 1 step forward 3 steps back. I think the pacers manage to take 1 small step forward, just don't know how yet.

Do it. Who we giving up? Outside of Vic, it's worth it. He turns 24 in Feb.

It looks like Durant can only sign a 4 year with other teams and 5 with GS. " a four year max worth about $164 million. The Warriors, though, are the only team that can give KD the five-year max worth an estimated $221 million." I get what you are saying and these elite guys think highly of themselves. He has a close up look and relationship now with Cousins who has and is going through the rehab process. Here's a historical perspective of 9 players that went through this. Dominique was so special, we forget. https://www.si.com/nba/2019/06/11/kevin-durant-achilles-injury-news-recovery-history A lot of talking heads are saying, re-up on this one year deal where you are familiar, show you are back, make one more run with the boys, then go get your final 4. Love this time of year. Really wish the Pacers could add two pieces that could make them like a Detroit team that made a run. Just feel like no matter what they do they will wind up short.

That article I quoted shows if Klay and KD both take a max deal they're going to be $180 million over the salary cap with the repeater tax. I think for that reason Durant is going to have to take a max deal. It's going to be about the business at that point. The thing is is if Durant can opt in for one year I don't see him doing that because it's too big of a risk if he never comes back the same he won't get another Max. I think he has to take the max this year from somebody, so he's going to opt out of this last year with golden state. it'll be really interesting to see if golden state offers him the max or just goes all in on Clay alone and essentially let's Durant go to the next or whoever else will offer him a Max.