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6 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said:

No way.  Doesn't have the personality. 

Did you watch it?  He showed more personality in this than he ever did at IU.  Now, I still wouldn’t put him in a game as a color analyst, but he certainly would have a lot to offer in a studio.

Pretty good stuff.  Obviously knows the game.  Really could see him as a studio analyst on ESPN.

10 hours ago, Steubenhoosier said:

FW Snider beats Luers to win the SAC title 

Warsaw and Concord tied at 14 for Northern Lakes Conference title 

They are recognizing it as a 3-way tie for the SAC title between Carroll, Luers, and Snider, even though Snider won one less game due to not being able to play FW South (COVID).

20 minutes ago, IUFLA said:

Not sure...I heard the 2 exhibitions would be Cincinnati and Bellarmine (or was it Belmont?) I thought...

Bellarmine was everyone’s original guess, but it’s actually against Belmont.

1 hour ago, iuswingman said:

so any idea what are chances are at landing the freshman at Carroll?

No idea at this point.

57 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said:

Good.  I like to look at lists of recruits after the high school season, when all the reports from the season are considered.  Lot of new info.  But, I will say this, I would like to see us get more athletic on the offensive line.  Bedford is probably the one plus athlete we have right now.  As a group, we look stiff.  

We definitely have an upgrade in talent coming based on this ‘22 class, but both lines need to get better and better.  It’s hard to find huge guys period, but it is even harder to narrow that group to guys with some quickness and athleticism.  People think about agility and range at tackle, but you need some explosiveness and quickness inside at guard and center too.   I think we need more of it, IMO.  Hopefully, Sales and Khalil Benson are looking promising in practice and we do have a few good line prospects in ‘22 with Carter Smith and Demon Moore but we need more, IMO.  

Carroll’s best OL prospect is currently only a freshman who is playing LT on varsity.  Of course, Hiller couldn’t talk to him yet but made a point of shaking his hand “in passing,” lol.  Hiller was also looking at a LB, DB, WR, and K.  Fort Wayne is Hiller’s recruiting area so he recruits all positions.

4 hours ago, BobSaccamanno said:

Nice, get in there early!  Would be nice to start cranking out kids out of Ft Wayne.

North Side wasn't the only Fort Wayne school IU visited today.  Darren Hiller was at Carroll's practice looking at a few players.

On 9/22/2021 at 8:20 PM, 13th&Jackson said:

Sounds like we’ve moved on from Baskin Robbins

He was probably concerned about playing time since we already have Scoop.

A kid from Warren Central visited yesterday as well.  I have no idea who it was, but his family sat next to us.

20 hours ago, Steubenhoosier said:

Carroll has a quarterback who has committed to A Div 2 school. He is pretty good 

Jeff Becker is Carroll’s QB.  He’s committed to South Dakota State, a top FCS (Div. I) school.

Looks like Dane Fife might be a bit taller than Mike Woodson.  I guess they measured differently back in the 70s, ha ha

Apparently Trace didn't hit a 3.  They've taken it away from him and now show him with 11 points.

Behind Mike Woodson's first summer as Indiana's head coach, where a foundation is being built - Inside the Hall | Indiana Hoosiers Basketball News, Recruiting and Analysis

I didn't know where to put this.  Didn't want to start a new thread in case it was posted somewhere and I just missed it.  But I thought this was a really good article, especially the player quotes.

Just now, rico said:

Any other major programs look at the kid?  

Not to my knowledge.  I have no idea what would have happened if he would have waited and had a really great senior year.  His offers were Penn, Illinois State, Indiana State, South Dakota State...

1 hour ago, rico said:

I was told IU was looking at him last year I think?  Seems like he was a regular on the FW area highlight zone last season.

Allen and Brohm both visited Carroll last year but neither seemed like they were ever going to offer.

Jeff Becker, QB for FW Carroll, committed to South Dakota State Monday evening.

7 minutes ago, 5fouls said:

If this would happen this offseason, then I think it's even more unfair.  The players haven't even had the opportunity to show improvement to this coaching staff.  Don't get me wrong.  I'm okay with trying to recruit the best players possible when there are open schollies.  If that means a starter from last season doesn't start next season, so be it. 

My point is that the program has 13 scholarships to use.  All 13 have been awarded.  Is it good to take that away from a kid that committed to IU straight out of high school and stuck with it through a coaching change.  Keion Brooks had a chance to commit to IU out of high school ad didn't/  He also had the same free agency opportunity that Xavier Johnson and Miller Kopp did after Woodson was hired.  And, he didn't make the move when the spot was available.  Neither he, nor any other player, who had those opportunities should take a scholly from someone who previously made that commitment,

   

While I'm not sure why there are pages of debate and hand-wringing over something that hasn't happened and probably won't happen, I tend to agree with your take.  I think a contributing factor to Archie's recruiting problems was that he held scholarships open indefinitely for guys like Brooks and Kaufman and let both of them him-haw around until we couldn't get anybody else. and then, of course, they went somewhere else.  Fife hinted at this in his media availability, but if kids want to play basketball for this prestigious program, they need to make a decision about their scholarship offer while it is available.  If not, then we move on, get somebody else, and win without them.  So until somebody voluntarily leaves, which certainly may happen, my opinion is the roster is full and the kids who passed on their offers are out of luck.

1 hour ago, rico said:

I will try to get some info on that.  I got an "insider" at Carroll.

Thanks.  I do too but I haven't heard anything.

Just now, IU/Butler/Notre Dame said:

Carroll was tough too !

Yes, it's a great job at a growing school.  I would think it would draw a lot of interest.

Was shocked to hear Coach Marty Beasley is leaving Carroll (Ft Wayne) after 16 years to take the DeKalb job.  Anybody know who might have the inside track to the Carroll job?

4 hours ago, Fundamentals said:

In sharp contrast to a productive and positive first month on the job by Mike Woodson, there is this update on the former IU Head Coach.  All sounds painfully familiar.  
 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/ugawire.usatoday.com/2021/04/20/tom-creans-blows-it-again-former-players-and-media-sound-off/amp/

Well, if there's one thing he has experience in, it's building a program up from little to no scholarship players.  Unfortunately, he will be doing that in year 4 of his current job, lol.

13 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said:

Probably the main thing is the “Purdue has basically never hurt us on the offensive end” comment. Sure there have been some low-scoring ugly games lately but plenty of times Purdue has been solid offensively in those games. Also, that Purdue’s model isn’t meant to win in March I disagree with too. First round upsets happen all the time especially this year. 

First round upsets happen, but if you look at the DNA of teams that often lose before their seeding says they should, it's because they lack quickness and can't guard in space.  They're susceptible to teams who open the floor, drive, and have a shooter or two get hot.  And it's bound to happen in the tournament, if not in the first round then by the second or third.  Purdue is a solid program that would probably have a lot more post-season success if each game in the bracket was a best of 3, but there is a reason Purdue hasn't been to a Final Four in 42 years. 

Woodson, Fife part of strategy to connect to disenfranchised IU alumni - Indianapolis Business Journal (ibj.com)

SIAP, great article.

3 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said:

Do you think being a BOT member if that happened he would be in hot water or would it not matter?. No idea on that front

I'm not sure either.  Just seems from what I've heard the search was narrowed down to 1 or 2 guys from the beginning, and neither were college coaches.