hoosier_exotics Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 1 hour ago, tdhoosier said: To be devil's advocate, I'm not sure that is a simple answer. It could potentially ruin relationships with HS coaches in the state (Crean was great at that), it could upset the chemistry of the team, you risk DD not picking up the system quickly when the departed player has experience in it, etc. I think DD seems like a fine player, but all these unknowns seem like a lot to risk for a player of his caliber. Now, if we are talking about a potential 15-20 ppg guy then it's a completely different story.The potential reward outweighs the potential risk. I know I'm playing the guessing game too, but I think there's a lot going on behind the scenes that we don't know about. And despite all the rumors (and as much as I don't want it to be true); I still think TJD is not coming back IF another player transfers in. IF! Woody continues to recruit at the level he has been. We won't have many Indiana kids on our roster, unless they are elite. I Kentucky doesn't typically have instate talent like Indiana does, but I am pretty certain Cal could care less what the local high school coaches think. Win big, recruit big, and when the IU scholly is offered it means a lot. Leal dreamed of playing at IU. We need that dream to be on a national level, which means going toe to toe with Duke, Kansas, Carolina, KY and winning our majority share of recruits 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledies22 Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 1 hour ago, tdhoosier said: To be devil's advocate, I'm not sure that is a simple answer. It could potentially ruin relationships with HS coaches in the state (Crean was great at that), it could upset the chemistry of the team, you risk DD not picking up the system quickly when the departed player has experience in it, etc. I think DD seems like a fine player, but all these unknowns seem like a lot to risk for a player of his caliber. Now, if we are talking about a potential 15-20 ppg guy then it's a completely different story.The potential reward outweighs the potential risk. I know I'm playing the guessing game too, but I think there's a lot going on behind the scenes that we don't know about. And despite all the rumors (and as much as I don't want it to be true); I still think TJD is not coming back IF another player transfers in. I get what you're saying. It would be a case by case situation. but if you continue to play for the future, you wont be around to experience it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 21 minutes ago, hoosier_exotics said: IF! Woody continues to recruit at the level he has been. We won't have many Indiana kids on our roster, unless they are elite. I Kentucky doesn't typically have instate talent like Indiana does, but I am pretty certain Cal could care less what the local high school coaches think. Win big, recruit big, and when the IU scholly is offered it means a lot. Leal dreamed of playing at IU. We need that dream to be on a national level, which means going toe to toe with Duke, Kansas, Carolina, KY and winning our majority share of recruits The state of Kentucky doesn't have 5% of the in-state talent IU does. That said, I do see a future of Purdue getting more in-state talent than IU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 41 minutes ago, hoosier_exotics said: IF! Woody continues to recruit at the level he has been. We won't have many Indiana kids on our roster, unless they are elite. I Kentucky doesn't typically have instate talent like Indiana does, but I am pretty certain Cal could care less what the local high school coaches think. Win big, recruit big, and when the IU scholly is offered it means a lot. Leal dreamed of playing at IU. We need that dream to be on a national level, which means going toe to toe with Duke, Kansas, Carolina, KY and winning our majority share of recruits None of the states those schools are in produce the kind of talent Indiana does year in and year out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosier_exotics Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: None of the states those schools are in produce the kind of talent Indiana does year in and year out I agree. Just saying the Leal type players won't be recruited here, if we maintain this momentum. High 4 and 5 star kids will be the norm.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Steubenhoosier Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 I am happy with our roster as it stands if Trayce stays another year. If he stays in the draft, there will be a hole in our defense that I think DD would help fill. Saying that, I don’t want any player here that has not fully bought in to what CMW wants. I don’t want any player who is listening to handlers constantly preaching greener grass somewhere else. We have experienced locker room dissent in the not so distant past and it tears a team apart. If a player is not fully in, then he should be out, Imo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 i didn't realize Jeremiah Rivers scarred me this much... anyway, i m good with our roster as is. really don't want JG or Leal to leave. Kopp... meh. still find it hard to believe we'll have Thompson, TJD, Reneau, and JG though. just doesn't seem like everyone would be happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDIUFAN Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 1 hour ago, 5fouls said: The state of Kentucky doesn't have 5% of the in-state talent IU does. That said, I do see a future of Purdue getting more in-state talent than IU. I love when Indiana Kids come to IU,but the truth is talent is talent! No matter where your from! Remember help is on the way group! I believe only Yogi worked out! Calloway was a bust, I like Phineses ,but he didn’t work either injuries hurt him. Landers isn’t Big Ten ! what I trust is Coach Woodson and his assistants recognize the skill set you need at the BigTen level. It’s his first group let see how they do! GO HOOSIERS! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, OLDIUFAN said: I love when Indiana Kids come to IU,but the truth is talent is talent! No matter where your from! Remember help is on the way group! I believe only Yogi worked out! Calloway was a bust, I like Phineses ,but he didn’t work either injuries hurt him. Landers isn’t Big Ten ! what I trust is Coach Woodson and his assistants recognize the skill set you need at the BigTen level. It’s his first group let see how they do! GO HOOSIERS! The state hasn't panned out for us that much recently. Yes, a guy like TJD has but for each of him there is a Damezi Anderson type. It goes back to Crean. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDIUFAN Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said: The state hasn't panned out for us that much recently. Yes, a guy like TJD has but for each of him there is a Damezi Anderson type. It goes back to Crean. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier51 Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Hoosier987 said: f CMW thinks Dennis will improve our team then I trust him. Good coaches make mistakes all the time on players. I don't think Dennis is what the Hoosiers need. He is Rob 2.0. If he commits to the Hoosiers I will support him and hope he helps them win games. I just don't think he will move the needle as far as wins go. He is a good defender which is nice, but while they had problems defending wing players they had bigger problems making their 3s. Dennis doesn't help their shooting AT ALL, in fact he is a detriment when it comes to shooting. Edited April 22, 2022 by Hoosier51 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDIUFAN Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 Totally agree! Franklin wasn’t that good! Had moments but nothing you could count on! So just being from Indiana doesn’t make you a shooter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier51 Posted April 21, 2022 Report Share Posted April 21, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Hoosierfan1901 said: Pack to Purdue is next Decent little pickup if they do get him. He won't replace what they lost but he will maybe help them sneak into the Top 25 occasionally this season. Edited April 22, 2022 by Hoosier51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted April 22, 2022 Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 46 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said: The state hasn't panned out for us that much recently. Yes, a guy like TJD has but for each of him there is a Damezi Anderson type. It goes back to Crean. To be fair, Damezi was a borderline Top 100 recruit. TJD was a Top 25 recruit. I don’t expect every single Top 100 recruit to pan out, but the odds and expectations get higher as you get closer to the top. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 22, 2022 Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, Zlinedavid said: To be fair, Damezi was a borderline Top 100 recruit. TJD was a Top 25 recruit. I don’t expect every single Top 100 recruit to pan out, but the odds and expectations get higher as you get closer to the top. Aaron Henry looked alright. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaybobHoosier Posted April 22, 2022 Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, btownqb said: Aaron Henry looked alright. Ouch! Lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 22, 2022 Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 56 minutes ago, Hoosier51 said: Good coaches make mistakes all the time on players. I don't think Dennis is what the Hoosiers need. He is Rob 2.0. If he commits to the Hoosiers I will support him and hope he helps them win games. I just don't think he will move the needle as far as wins go. He is a good defender which is nice, but while they had problems defending wing players they had bigger problems making their 3s. Dennis doesn't help their shooting AT ALL, in fact he is a detriment when it comes to shooting. If we add Dennis we are better to immensely better on the wing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 22, 2022 Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, JaybobHoosier said: Ouch! Lol. Sorry, that was in reference to the state's talent not panning out. I think we misidentified/didn't develop way more then the state not producing the talent. Desmond Bane would have solved some problems. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier51 Posted April 22, 2022 Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 1 minute ago, btownqb said: If we add Dennis we are better to immensely better on the wing. If we add him we still haven't solved our biggest problem, shooting. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted April 22, 2022 Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 I would love to see this board’s reaction if both McNeil and Dennis commit. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 22, 2022 Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hoosier51 said: If we add him we still haven't solved our biggest problem, shooting. We have solved our biggest problem which was not enough guys being able to break the defense down off the dribble. We can develop shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier51 Posted April 22, 2022 Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 1 minute ago, BobSaccamanno said: I would love to see this board’s reaction if both McNeil and Dennis commit. Man I actually would be good with that, one is a shooter and one is a defender on the wing. I don't think it would be the reactions you are thinking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier51 Posted April 22, 2022 Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 Just now, btownqb said: We have solved our biggest problem which was not enough guys being able to break the defense down off the dribble. We can develop shooting. That isn't why they are going after Dennis, they are going after him for his defense, not his supposed in your mind ability to break defense down off the dribble. We need shooters and he isn't it. Bates and Galloway MIGHT improve their shooting but it would be nice to have a player that is already a good shooter if they don't. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaybobHoosier Posted April 22, 2022 Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, btownqb said: Sorry, that was in reference to the state's talent not panning out. I think we misidentified/didn't develop way more then the state not producing the talent. Desmond Bane would have solved some problems. Oh, gotcha. Didn’t know if it was a reference to Miller taking Damezi over Henry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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