Hoosierinbham Posted August 14, 2023 Report Share Posted August 14, 2023 4 hours ago, BGleas said: I think one way to maybe mitigate this, beyond money, is to have these games right after the season ends, as opposed to currently where there can be as long as 5-6 weeks between the end of the season and bowl games. Other than the playoffs, I've kind of moved on from college football by the time we get to the bowls. I get that it's about money and eyeballs during the holiday season, but beyond that waiting 4-6 weeks for these games make no sense. I think you'd keep some guys playing if the games meant something and were right away. With the current layoff, many of these guys have just moved on to draft prep already. That's a valid point. I'm against the big 30 teams with relegation, but having those games during a college playoff could create relevance. It also gives people another opportunity to create brackets to bet on with their friends/co-workers; that is a BIG motivation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 15, 2023 Report Share Posted August 15, 2023 Lots of info as well as questions here: https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/options-dwindling-as-california-stanford-oregon-state-washington-state-prepare-to-take-financial-hits/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted August 16, 2023 Report Share Posted August 16, 2023 4 hours ago, rico said: Lots of info as well as questions here: https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/options-dwindling-as-california-stanford-oregon-state-washington-state-prepare-to-take-financial-hits/ They are so screwed. Drastic cuts for sure. I don’t see a way out for them. They don’t have the following to secure a deal like ND to go independent and no major conference is going to take them in. Gotta hope having a merger with the MWC under a new PAC12 name would allow for a renewed contract and try to figure out how to make the PAC12 channel more profitable. In searching for a bigger and more perfect deal the last ones to get off the merry go round was bound to get left out in the cold. ACC would do well with this lesson. If they vote to tear up their grant of rights schools like Wake, Duke, Boston College, Syracuse, Louisville, and some others will get left out in the cold and take a huge loss. 25 million a year even if more than half what SEC and B1G schools get is still 3-4 times what they would get in another conference or if they tried to renegotiate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted August 16, 2023 Report Share Posted August 16, 2023 On 8/14/2023 at 2:30 PM, Steubenhoosier said: Since this is/has become, all about money, I think some "creative" NIL incentives could be put in place to discourage guys from sitting out the post-season games I hope other teams start doing that, it would open the door for us to tell players we won't penalize them for putting their long-term career over a short-term, meaningless game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 16, 2023 Report Share Posted August 16, 2023 16 hours ago, dgambill said: They are so screwed. Drastic cuts for sure. I don’t see a way out for them. They don’t have the following to secure a deal like ND to go independent and no major conference is going to take them in. Gotta hope having a merger with the MWC under a new PAC12 name would allow for a renewed contract and try to figure out how to make the PAC12 channel more profitable. In searching for a bigger and more perfect deal the last ones to get off the merry go round was bound to get left out in the cold. ACC would do well with this lesson. If they vote to tear up their grant of rights schools like Wake, Duke, Boston College, Syracuse, Louisville, and some others will get left out in the cold and take a huge loss. 25 million a year even if more than half what SEC and B1G schools get is still 3-4 times what they would get in another conference or if they tried to renegotiate. Oh, I am sure the ACC is watching the PAC situation with high interest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 Interesting question posed? What realignment moves would you make from a basketball perspective? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Drroogh said: Interesting question posed? What realignment moves would you make from a basketball perspective? More garbage sports journalism. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 The PAAC 8? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 44 minutes ago, IUFLA said: The PAAC 8? The PAC has to do something. They need 8 schools to survive according to the NCAA's "definition. SMU would be a good fit. Rice? Memphis? USF? Tulane? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 hour ago, rico said: The PAC has to do something. They need 8 schools to survive according to the NCAA's "definition. SMU would be a good fit. Rice? Memphis? USF? Tulane? Depends on their media deal but yeah in theory you cobble together whatever you can get. San Diego St has to probably be the school they start with as far as media value…then Texas schools SMU & Rice…then to Florida with USF, finally Memphis and Tulane. That gets you to PAC-10 again. (Could add schools like Boise St, Fresno St, UNLV, FL Atlantic? as travel partner) Basically take the best of AAC and MWC. Could even switch it up for non-football sports dropping some and adding say Gonzaga etc for basketball or non-revenue. Be interesting but if they can get 10+ million per school I think you have to look at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 It's not what you know but who you know...or something like that. https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/acc-expansion-condoleezza-rice-george-w-bush-lobbying-on-behalf-stanford-smu-per-reports/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 More "funny" stuff: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milosh68 Posted August 19, 2023 Report Share Posted August 19, 2023 I could see UNC being swayed to a yes vote allowing Cal and Stanford as members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted August 19, 2023 Report Share Posted August 19, 2023 On 8/18/2023 at 9:11 AM, rico said: More "funny" stuff: That would be interesting, but wouldn't the fear then be that B1G and SEC merge into a new league with two separate conference? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 19, 2023 Report Share Posted August 19, 2023 19 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: That would be interesting, but wouldn't the fear then be that B1G and SEC merge into a new league with two separate conference? I guess the author didn't think about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 https://fansided.com/2023/08/19/college-football-realignment-big-ten-force-notre-dame-join-conference/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue7 Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 Presidents wanted to add Stanford & Cal Fox tv said no thanks greedy players will ruin amateur sports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted August 20, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, Purdue7 said: Presidents wanted to add Stanford & Cal Fox tv said no thanks greedy players will ruin amateur sports Already has Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Purdue7 said: Presidents wanted to add Stanford & Cal Fox tv said no thanks greedy players will ruin amateur sports Greedy players? It's the greedy TV execs. Conference Commissioners and NCAA. If anything, the adults in the room are the problem. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 2 hours ago, BGleas said: Greedy players? It's the greedy TV execs. Conference Commissioners and NCAA. If anything, the adults in the room are the problem. The system is broken…hopefully some leadership steps up and makes some decisions for the greater good and not what’s good for a greater bottom line. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue7 Posted August 21, 2023 Report Share Posted August 21, 2023 4 hours ago, BGleas said: Greedy players? It's the greedy TV execs. Conference Commissioners and NCAA. If anything, the adults in the room are the problem. 💯 AAU fought to keep athletes poor for 90 years 1888-1978 NCAA spent millions fighting in court to keep all the 💰 see Prefontaine & Thorp for AAU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 Heard the other ACC schools are leaning hard on North Carolina and State to flip their vote for yes to SMU, Stanford, and Cal. More schools to vote no to end the grant of rights and help hold the conference together in case Florida St and Clemson tries to bolt. If a vote happens then they will get added…as the last one was an unofficial vote. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/22/2023 at 1:58 PM, dgambill said: Heard the other ACC schools are leaning hard on North Carolina and State to flip their vote for yes to SMU, Stanford, and Cal. More schools to vote no to end the grant of rights and help hold the conference together in case Florida St and Clemson tries to bolt. If a vote happens then they will get added…as the last one was an unofficial vote. https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/acc-expansion-conference-renews-discussions-to-add-stanford-california-smu-at-reduced-price-per-reports/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/20/2023 at 3:06 PM, Purdue7 said: Presidents wanted to add Stanford & Cal Fox tv said no thanks greedy players will ruin amateur sports Greed ruins everything. No matter what or who it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue7 Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 53 minutes ago, mrflynn03 said: Greed ruins everything. No matter what or who it is. When coaches & bowl game fat cats get millions it’s hard to deny the players a share Now NIL is trickling down to HS & every university is whoring out on the street most of these schools are pro sports teams….most of the fans never graduated or attended 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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