bluegrassIU Posted April 21, 2023 Report Share Posted April 21, 2023 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: So you just believe him because he he said he had been to them. Call me very suspicious Start a new thread or drop it, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Initial79 Posted April 21, 2023 Report Share Posted April 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I am tired of him putting our program down and actually don't think he is even a IU fan Scott, I am trying to think how to say this without setting you off. Slow down and read what I said. I am a HUGE IU fan and trying to defend our program and staff against the outcry of why Woodson “can’t close” “another recruit lost to Tenn. what the heck, how” there is a reason and people need to slow down and realize it. I even gave examples on what it would take to overcome it etc. you know what doesn’t help the program? Fans putting their heads in the sand and acting like we are the .. stuff. me attacking the program? Because I argued how important social media was? Huh? I haven’t attacked the program one time. Especially with what I see here daily. If we start a new thread I will be happy to discuss. I thought it was relevant as this is a big part of losing transfers. Please let me know if we do as I don’t check other threads often right now and just come back here. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted April 21, 2023 Report Share Posted April 21, 2023 Maybe it’s just me but if I could play for a guy who played in the league and coached in the league, both at a high level, and who had connections to people in the league, and who knew the intricacies of what it took to get into the league… that would trump having a posh college apartment or the best gaming system. But that’s just me… 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted April 21, 2023 Report Share Posted April 21, 2023 Ok, babysitting time is over. Mods don't ask much around here. But when we do, we expect the requests to be followed. New thread, or drop it. Last warning. This is frustrating. 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted April 21, 2023 Report Share Posted April 21, 2023 I've never understood the facilities thing for the most part. Anywhere a recruit goes will be an upgrade from where they're coming from. Unless it's the Mud Dogs of SCLSU. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted April 21, 2023 Report Share Posted April 21, 2023 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Initial79 said: It is still less and even if I give you top 10% which is not accurate, that still means 35/40 schools better. People question why we can’t beat out these “back hills, SEC, football schools with no history. We are IU, best college town in the world” well, those are your top 35/40. They are on the better, right now, on the court too. fans have to realize this is not easy on the staff is my point. They have won some good battles but people like Ledlum and Knecht… yeah, they were sold and not hard to blame them or blame the staff for not convincing them. I know it can be turned around. Woody brings something missing with Archie, players love him. He has that NBA thing as well. If they can win consistently, you can start to overcome this. I wish more understood it is not easy and give him some more time is all. Trying to educate our fanbase on this perspective We are having a hard time beating them out because a growing majority of the best athletes are coming from the south…so a lot are staying in SEC country. Even more important the SEC and ACC are playing a free flowing/ 3pt shooting and less physical brand of basketball that translates to being drafted in the NBA. It’s still always about the best players getting to the nba. Finally we are seeing tons of money for NIL going to these schools not just for football but basketball also. A lot of NIL money being spent at these schools as they have done a far better job setting up collectives for funneling money to their kids. Those 3 things are working against us but I don’t think facilities are far enough off that it would sway the recruits. In the end they just want to make it to the NBA…the fruit spread in the lounge ain’t making a difference. Also speaking as someone living in the South…the weather is much better than Indiana…hard to compete there. Edited April 21, 2023 by dgambill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 21, 2023 Report Share Posted April 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, dgambill said: We are having a hard time beating them out because a growing majority of the best athletes are coming from the south…so a lot are staying in SEC country. Even more important the SEC and ACC are playing a free flowing/ 3pt shooting and less physical brand of basketball that translates to being drafted in the NBA. It’s still always about the best players getting to the nba. Finally we are seeing tons of money for NIL going to these schools not just for football but basketball also. A lot of NIL money being spent at these schools as they have done a far better job setting up collectives for funneling money to their kids. Those 3 things are working against us but I don’t think facilities are far enough off that it would sway the recruits. In the end they just want to make it to the NBA…the fruit spread in the lounge ain’t making a difference. Those teams in the south is way ahead of the curve on knowing how to pay college athletes. They have been doing that for decades. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted April 21, 2023 Report Share Posted April 21, 2023 @Steubenhoosiermade a new thread for this discussion... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted April 21, 2023 Report Share Posted April 21, 2023 16 minutes ago, bluegrassIU said: @Inequality been practicing too Huh? I do believe @Inequalityhas been to my house. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted April 21, 2023 Report Share Posted April 21, 2023 So anyone know of any scheduled visits? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted April 21, 2023 Report Share Posted April 21, 2023 14 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Huh? I do believe @Inequalityhas been to my house. The coffee cup gave it away 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted April 21, 2023 Report Share Posted April 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, dgambill said: So anyone know of any scheduled visits? Been eerily quiet, that's for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Between2Halls Posted April 22, 2023 Report Share Posted April 22, 2023 1 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted April 22, 2023 Report Share Posted April 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Between2Halls said: Just Just saw that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Between2Halls Posted April 22, 2023 Report Share Posted April 22, 2023 Apparently Ledlum and Knecht did want to play together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted April 22, 2023 Report Share Posted April 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Between2Halls said: Apparently Ledlum and Knecht did want to play together. Bromance? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 22, 2023 Report Share Posted April 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, Between2Halls said: Obvious with these two they don't mind playing the physical big ten style because UT plays the same way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted April 22, 2023 Report Share Posted April 22, 2023 20 minutes ago, dgambill said: So anyone know of any scheduled visits? I have to believe CMW’s surgery recovery is impacting availability for campus visits. DeLoach already canceled a visit and went to Penn St instead. He said at the time he wanted to get to Bloomington later this month, but it’s now 4/21 with no visit announced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted April 22, 2023 Report Share Posted April 22, 2023 But we still have Memorial Day! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted April 22, 2023 Report Share Posted April 22, 2023 22 minutes ago, Between2Halls said: That’s some ugly pants…it’s like trying to imitate Yankee pinstripes…you can’t do better than the original. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artesian_86 Posted April 22, 2023 Report Share Posted April 22, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said: I have to believe CMW’s surgery recovery is impacting availability for campus visits. DeLoach already canceled a visit and went to Penn St instead. He said at the time he wanted to get to Bloomington later this month, but it’s now 4/21 with no visit announced IMO, I think really wonder if CMW’s surgery and inability to get around like normal had a negative effect on recruiting. I mean, his assistant coaches are recruiting too, but when the head coach has to take a short “pause” in face to face recruiting, other head coaches aren’t going to sit on their hands. Edited April 22, 2023 by Artesian_86 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Initial79 Posted April 22, 2023 Report Share Posted April 22, 2023 24 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said: I have to believe CMW’s surgery recovery is impacting availability for campus visits. DeLoach already canceled a visit and went to Penn St instead. He said at the time he wanted to get to Bloomington later this month, but it’s now 4/21 with no visit announced He is going to Georgia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted April 22, 2023 Report Share Posted April 22, 2023 Coaches in at 830pm on a Friday night. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 22, 2023 Report Share Posted April 22, 2023 Just speculation on my part but what are the chances our staff has talked to some guys testing the NBA waters. Maybe players like Davis from Arkansas or Mitchell at Texas has talked to the staff about entering the portal. Both of them would fit well because one is a good scorer from the guard spot and another us a defensive wing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted April 22, 2023 Report Share Posted April 22, 2023 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: Just speculation on my part but what are the chances our staff has talked to some guys testing the NBA waters. Maybe players like Davis from Arkansas or Mitchell at Texas has talked to the staff about entering the portal. Both of them would fit well because one is a good scorer from the guard spot and another us a defensive wing. If conversations like that are happening, they are probably talking with ten other teams as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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