IU Scott Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) Sorsby threw 31 passes but only for 126 yards. This team has no big play capabilities except for Lucas and they don't know how to get him the ball in space Edited October 21, 2023 by IU Scott 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierFaithful Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 27 minutes ago, 3Ballin said: Great person, good leader of men.....needs better football minds around him to be successful. Hard part of CFB is the coach movement. If you have a HC who is more of a leader of men (I agree), they can be great one season and terrible the next if... someone like DeBoer leaves 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronkonagurski Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 29 minutes ago, HoosierFaithful said: Allen is clearly struggling but my word, I am sure I could dig up posts here calling him Jesus Reincarnate in 2020. It's a big, complex game. Nothing is as simple as a one sentence post on a message board I thought he was our coach for life after 2020 and had no issue with the extension. But man, we had all the momentum in the world in recruiting and the transfer portal and 3 years later, we have are 2-20 in conference play since then. It isn't just an off year or two, this is venturing into Bill Lynch bad territory. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierFaithful Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, bronkonagurski said: I thought he was our coach for life after 2020 and had no issue with the extension. But man, we had all the momentum in the world in recruiting and the transfer portal and 3 years later, we have are 2-20 in conference play since then. It isn't just an off year or two, this is venturing into Bill Lynch bad territory. I'm not disagreeing - I just find it somewhat comical how quickly the winds can blow to some people. He couldn't have been so incredible in 2020 that he's so bad now. Maybe he was worse than we thought then, maybe he's better than it's showing right now, but nuance seems to be a bit lost in these discussions sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier987 Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 12 minutes ago, bronkonagurski said: I thought he was our coach for life after 2020 and had no issue with the extension. But man, we had all the momentum in the world in recruiting and the transfer portal and 3 years later, we have are 2-20 in conference play since then. It isn't just an off year or two, this is venturing into Bill Lynch bad territory. This is worse than Bill Lynch imo…we’re close to moving beyond the Levechio/Dinardo days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 We all need to put presser on the Ad to make a change and make him know this isn't acceptable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 We'll always have Akron. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier987 Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: We all need to put presser on the Ad to make a change and make him know this isn't acceptable Our buy-out is enormous. I absolutely agree that a change needed to be made yesterday…but I’m worried we’re stuck. However…With that said…can IU even afford another season of Tom Allen? Edited October 21, 2023 by Hoosier987 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier987 Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, 5fouls said: We'll always have Akron. Touché. Thanks to the FG kicker missing a FG he probably makes 99 out of a 100 times. Edited October 21, 2023 by Hoosier987 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuthruandthru Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 Easy way to pay for the buyout. Double the cost of all parking passes. They were all full today and will co to ie to be while the team sucks. Make more revenue off the people in the grass lots to get a better team to get them to actually go to the game. The grass lots were full super early from what I am told. The bodies are there they just need to give the non diehards a reason to go in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 34 minutes ago, HoosierFaithful said: I'm not disagreeing - I just find it somewhat comical how quickly the winds can blow to some people. He couldn't have been so incredible in 2020 that he's so bad now. Maybe he was worse than we thought then, maybe he's better than it's showing right now, but nuance seems to be a bit lost in these discussions sometimes. I’ve been here all along saying the Covid year was more a result of other programs not handling the starting and stopping and just the weird nature of that season. Playing in empty stadiums (normal for our home games) and having guys out (we did a great job keeping people healthy that year til the end) all that plus probably the best qb and wr room we’ve had in a long long time played a huge part of all that. It’s clear that Allen is not some kind of genius coach…great game planner or have some incredible system…he seems a good motivator and a wonderful leader but he has no direction and no clue how to find talented assistants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 10 minutes ago, dgambill said: I’ve been here all along saying the Covid year was more a result of other programs not handling the starting and stopping and just the weird nature of that season. Playing in empty stadiums (normal for our home games) and having guys out (we did a great job keeping people healthy that year til the end) all that plus probably the best qb and wr room we’ve had in a long long time played a huge part of all that. It’s clear that Allen is not some kind of genius coach…great game planner or have some incredible system…he seems a good motivator and a wonderful leader but he has no direction and no clue how to find talented assistants. You can’t overstate what losing DeBoer and Wommack meant to the program 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 46 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said: Our buy-out is enormous. I absolutely agree that a change needed to be made yesterday…but I’m worried we’re stuck. However…With that said…can IU even afford another season of Tom Allen? The buyout is large but will w lose more money by keeping him another year or two. Also the buyout is not one lump sum so I don't think it is as bad as it looks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 13 minutes ago, IU Scott said: The buyout is large but will w lose more money by keeping him another year or two. Also the buyout is not one lump sum so I don't think it is as bad as it looks Plus the buyout will be offset by his earnings at Dick’s Sporting Goods 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 Look. I like Coach. Knew people from his HS days. Good guy, probably great molder of young kids but it's not working right now. If Dolson thinks one more year is in order to see if we can get the coordinators right I guess I can see it. If not time to find some youth and excitement in this program again. Right now it seems like we are organizing chairs on the Titanic and I really feel bad for the kids/players. Those are the guys who are busting their tails every single day and right now they aren't getting the best out of the staff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 5 games vs power 5 teams 0-5 and outscored 171-55 This just shows we are not even close to competing with better teams. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 22 minutes ago, IU Scott said: 5 games vs power 5 teams 0-5 and outscored 171-55 This just shows we are not even close to competing with better teams. Yea, that’s a skewed statistic due to the Michigan score. We were one play away from Louisville and played very competitive football v OSU. I am not saying that the program is even close to being good, but you tend to make over exaggerated statements. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Steubenhoosier said: Yea, that’s a skewed statistic due to the Michigan score. We were one play away from Louisville and played very competitive football v OSU. I am not saying that the program is even close to being good, but you tend to make over exaggerated statements. UL 21-14 PSU 23-3 Maryland 44-17 that was IU 2 TD's late in the 4th quarter. UM 52-7 Rutgers 31-14 So one game where the margin was less than 17 points is exaggerating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/iu-football-is-broken-and-the-necessary-fix-is-going-to-be-expensive-and-painful/?fbclid=IwAR0z_vBi-HKrAJADONr7a8GHLdmrzj6Hl75gn8oo7m8tn2I4GQHKEmZLkus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDIUFAN Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 We just do stupid mistakes! Like with the game tie and our offense! Why call time out with 36 secs on the clock to receive a punt inside the twenty yard line! Then magnify the mistake a try to fair catch it. Get away from it take a knee and be tie 14,14. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefftheref Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 18 hours ago, 13th&Jackson said: Plus the buyout will be offset by his earnings at Dick’s Sporting Goods Dick's ain't that dumb! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Common Sense Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 17 hours ago, Steubenhoosier said: Yea, that’s a skewed statistic due to the Michigan score. We were one play away from Louisville and played very competitive football v OSU. I am not saying that the program is even close to being good, but you tend to make over exaggerated statements. We didn't compete against OSU. We had 153 yards of total offense and played to keep the game close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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