dwtaylor1055 Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) They definitely are the definition of team basketball in the NBA. On any given night the leading scorer could be one of Bojan/Turner/Sabonis/Wesley/Thad. If the Pacers can finish 11-10 over there next 21 games, I think they can hold the 3rd or even 4th seed. Basically win all the games against under .500 opponents and come close to splitting the games against over .500 opponents. Games remaining: 9 games remaining against opponents below .500 winning percentage(Mavericks/Wolves/Magic twice/Bulls/Knicks/Hawks/Pistons twice) 12 games remaining against opponents above .500 winning percentage(Bucks/76ers/Thunder twice/Nuggets twice/Clippers/Trailblazers/Warriors/Celtics twice/Nets) Edited February 27, 2019 by dwtaylor1055 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwtaylor1055 Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, dwtaylor1055 said: They definitely are the definition of team basketball in the NBA. On any given night the leading scorer could be one of Bojan/Turner/Sabonis/Wesley/Thad. If the Pacers can finish 11-10 over there next 21 games, I think they can hold the 3rd or even 4th seed. Basically win all the games against under .500 opponents and come close to splitting the games against over .500 opponents. Games remaining: 9 games remaining against opponents below .500 winning percentage(Mavericks/Wolves/Magic twice/Bulls/Knicks/Hawks/Pistons twice) 12 games remaining against opponents above .500 winning percentage(Bucks/76ers/Thunder twice/Nuggets twice/Clippers/Trailblazers/Warriors/Celtics twice/Nets) 76ers have the following: 9 games remaining against opponents above .500. 12 games remaining against opponents below .500 Celtics have the following: 12 games remaining against opponents above .500. 9 games remaining against opponents below .500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 1 hour ago, dwtaylor1055 said: 76ers have the following: 9 games remaining against opponents above .500. 12 games remaining against opponents below .500 Celtics have the following: 12 games remaining against opponents above .500. 9 games remaining against opponents below .500 Have to say I'm impressed the P's have maintained the 3rd seed so far after losing Vic, and losing several immediately after losing him. D is A+, and the sharing of the ball is good. In the playoffs, the lack of an allstar - level player will hurt them, but regardless, they've done very well in holding serve. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwtaylor1055 Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said: Have to say I'm impressed the P's have maintained the 3rd seed so far after losing Vic, and losing several immediately after losing him. D is A+, and the sharing of the ball is good. In the playoffs, the lack of an allstar - level player will hurt them, but regardless, they've done very well in holding serve. Agreed. Losing vic(all star) will hurt more in playoffs then regular season. If they share the ball like they have and play stellar defense winning a first rd series is a real possibility, even higher chance of winning if they stay at 3 spot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 Lakers and Celtics can look to the Pacers for inspiration -- http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26084155/where-lakers-celtics-look-inspiration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 DWade banks in a last second 3 to sink the Warriors. http://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/26098766 Good for him. If they don't make the playoffs, at least he has one final highlight moment from his last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 Pacers have not looked good in the last 2 games and lost to teams that we shouldn't have. Last night was more forgivable since Sabonis and Evans were out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 20 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Pacers have not looked good in the last 2 games and lost to teams that we shouldn't have. Last night was more forgivable since Sabonis and Evans were out. The Mavs seem to have had the Pacers number the last few years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwtaylor1055 Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Pacers have not looked good in the last 2 games and lost to teams that we shouldn't have. Last night was more forgivable since Sabonis and Evans were out. Agreed, the home and home game in late March/early April will be entertaining that's for sure against Detroit. They should not have lost to the Pistons, however without Sabonis and Evans I wasn't expecting a win in Dallas. Really need Evans(can't believe I am saying this) for tonight's game to help the bench. They have a 3 game lead over Boston, need to really maintain that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwtaylor1055 Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: The Mavs seem to have had the Pacers number the last few years Agreed, and they will only get better with Luka and Kristaps moving forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 13 minutes ago, dwtaylor1055 said: Agreed, and they will only get better with Luka and Kristaps moving forward. Last year when Yogi and co beat us just after Christmas I had taken our elementary basketball teams to the game. Thought for sure we would see a blowout but nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) @KoB2011, I have to admit when I'm wrong. I wanted to believe in Kyrie because I wanted the Celtics to take that next step so bad and I let that cloud my better judgement. Kyrie, while maybe playing his most efficient basketball of his career, has completely jacked up this Celtics season from a leadership perspective. Much like IU during January and early February, the Celtics just look lifeless and like there are a ton of chemistry issues. and most is due to Kyrie not being able to keep his mouth shut in the media. You were right. The problem for the Celtics now is they're in quite a bind and the C's/Kyrie really are the key to the entire summer. They have more assets than anyone to make runs at Anthony Davis and/or Durant, but the problem is to get those guys the Celtics need Kyrie to commit. Those guys aren't coming without Kyrie being in Boston. If Kyrie leaves, then Boston is stuck with a young core, some really good draft assets, but they'll miss out on the stars needed to take the next step. Going to be a tricky summer for Danny Ainge. Edited February 28, 2019 by BGleas 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 22 minutes ago, BGleas said: @KoB2011, I have to admit when I'm wrong. I wanted to believe in Kyrie because I wanted the Celtics to take that next step so bad and I let that cloud my better judgement. Kyrie, while maybe playing his most efficient basketball of his career, has completely jacked up this Celtics season from a leadership perspective. Much like IU during January and early February, the Celtics just look lifeless and like there are a ton of chemistry issues. and most is due to Kyrie not being able to keep his mouth shut in the media. You were right. The problem for the Celtics now is they're in quite a bind and the C's/Kyrie really are the key to the entire summer. They have more assets than anyone to make runs at Anthony Davis and/or Durant, but the problem is to get those guys the Celtics need Kyrie to commit. Those guys aren't coming without Kyrie being in Boston. If Kyrie leaves, then Boston is stuck with a young core, some really good draft assets, but they'll miss out on the stars needed to take the next step. Going to be a tricky summer for Danny Ainge. Tend to agree, and props for your note to KoB, but just in case any of this was in part reaction to last night's game, in fairness, Portland is playing very well and looks to have improved heading towards the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Hoosierhoopster said: Tend to agree, and props for your note to KoB, but just in case any of this was in part reaction to last night's game, in fairness, Portland is playing very well and looks to have improved heading towards the playoffs. They have improved, but the Celtics should be better and should certainly beat them at home, though a caveat is the Celtics were playing 2nd night of a back-to-back, while the Bazers had been in Boston a couple days waiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, BGleas said: They have improved, but the Celtics should be better and should certainly beat them at home, though a caveat is the Celtics were playing 2nd night of a back-to-back, while the Bazers had been in Boston a couple days waiting. Did anyone see the video of the Blazers getting stuck in the elevator. Had me gasping for air just thinking about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwtaylor1055 Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 I thought Karl Anthony Towns would end up with 60 after the 1st quarter last night. Pacers showed fight and didn't let the refs distract them a lot during the game I felt. They missed 3 obvious calls on KAT moving Thad/Myles with his arm by extending and refs didn't blink. I knew Wesley Mathews took pride in his defense, energy and leadership, but he's on another level then what I thought. I think he's our best defender for positions 1-3 hands down and that's including Vic in the fold(please don't shoot me for making this statement). Also his leadership is already starting to show, multiple times last night Thad(our glue guy) had multiple bad calls against him and was beyond upset with the refs and Wes was right there to calm him down, talk to him in the moment and continue to praise him for his effort on KAT. He may be 31 or 32, however I would LOVE for the Pacers to bring him back next season on a 2 or 3 year deal. He provides good solid defense, leadership, energy and is a very respectable 3pt shooter. I do not think Vic will be ready by start of the season, I think he won't be back into the starting lineup until sometime between Thanksgiving and Christmas. I think Vic plays and is very limited off of the bench until then. Gimme this group for next season and I would be estatic: 2019-2020 Team Roster: Starters: Darren/Mathews/Bojan/Thad/Myles Bench: Holiday & Sumner/Victor/Doug/Leaf/Sabonis I think you can get Thad for a 3 yr deal at about $11 mil per yr(a good amount of money for a proven veteran and allows him to possibly finish his career here), Wesley for a 2 or 3 yr deal at $11 mil per yr(same thoughts for Wes as Thad) and Bojan on a 3 yr deal at about $15 mil per year. So that would be around $37 mil for those three, add in Collison at $8 mil per yr(fill this gap until Holiday is ready to start which I think playing a full year in backup point guard minutes next season will do wonders for him and hes the starting point guard for the 2020-2021 season) and Sumner at $1.6 per yr and that puts you around $1.1 mil under the salary cap. You can get more space by waving Alize(saves $1.4 mil which would bring the total close to $2.5 mil) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 45 minutes ago, dwtaylor1055 said: I thought Karl Anthony Towns would end up with 60 after the 1st quarter last night. Pacers showed fight and didn't let the refs distract them a lot during the game I felt. They missed 3 obvious calls on KAT moving Thad/Myles with his arm by extending and refs didn't blink. I knew Wesley Mathews took pride in his defense, energy and leadership, but he's on another level then what I thought. I think he's our best defender for positions 1-3 hands down and that's including Vic in the fold(please don't shoot me for making this statement). Also his leadership is already starting to show, multiple times last night Thad(our glue guy) had multiple bad calls against him and was beyond upset with the refs and Wes was right there to calm him down, talk to him in the moment and continue to praise him for his effort on KAT. He may be 31 or 32, however I would LOVE for the Pacers to bring him back next season on a 2 or 3 year deal. He provides good solid defense, leadership, energy and is a very respectable 3pt shooter. I do not think Vic will be ready by start of the season, I think he won't be back into the starting lineup until sometime between Thanksgiving and Christmas. I think Vic plays and is very limited off of the bench until then. Gimme this group for next season and I would be estatic: 2019-2020 Team Roster: Starters: Darren/Mathews/Bojan/Thad/Myles Bench: Holiday & Sumner/Victor/Doug/Leaf/Sabonis I think you can get Thad for a 3 yr deal at about $11 mil per yr(a good amount of money for a proven veteran and allows him to possibly finish his career here), Wesley for a 2 or 3 yr deal at $11 mil per yr(same thoughts for Wes as Thad) and Bojan on a 3 yr deal at about $15 mil per year. So that would be around $37 mil for those three, add in Collison at $8 mil per yr(fill this gap until Holiday is ready to start which I think playing a full year in backup point guard minutes next season will do wonders for him and hes the starting point guard for the 2020-2021 season) and Sumner at $1.6 per yr and that puts you around $1.1 mil under the salary cap. You can get more space by waving Alize(saves $1.4 mil which would bring the total close to $2.5 mil) I don't disagree with any of this, but I think it could be a challenge to get Bogey for $15M per year. That dude is one of the more underrated scorers in the NBA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwtaylor1055 Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: I don't disagree with any of this, but I think it could be a challenge to get Bogey for $15M per year. That dude is one of the more underrated scorers in the NBA. True, I am just hoping he will take a little less and give us a slight discount. I'd even push it to $18 mil per year and if that's the case and everything else I mentioned would occur, Pacers would be over the cap by roughly $500K to $1 mil for the 2019-2020 season. Edited March 1, 2019 by dwtaylor1055 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 3 hours ago, dwtaylor1055 said: I knew Wesley Mathews took pride in his defense, energy and leadership, but he's on another level then what I thought. I think he's our best defender for positions 1-3 hands down and that's including Vic in the fold(please don't shoot me for making this statement). Also his leadership is already starting to show, multiple times last night Thad(our glue guy) had multiple bad calls against him and was beyond upset with the refs and Wes was right there to calm him down, talk to him in the moment and continue to praise him for his effort on KAT. He may be 31 or 32, however I would LOVE for the Pacers to bring him back next season on a 2 or 3 year deal. He provides good solid defense, leadership, energy and is a very respectable 3pt shooter. I do not think Vic will be ready by start of the season, I think he won't be back into the starting lineup until sometime between Thanksgiving and Christmas. I think Vic plays and is very limited off of the bench until then. Gimme this group for next season and I would be estatic: I've always liked Matthews' game. Not a specialist in anything, but solid all around. I think once Vic is near full strength, Matthews would be a hell of a 6th man. Certainly capable as a 2 guard, and has the size and defensive chops to handle being a SF as well (think Kobe in his last few seasons). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwtaylor1055 Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, Zlinedavid said: I've always liked Matthews' game. Not a specialist in anything, but solid all around. I think once Vic is near full strength, Matthews would be a hell of a 6th man. Certainly capable as a 2 guard, and has the size and defensive chops to handle being a SF as well (think Kobe in his last few seasons). For sure! Having Matthews and Sabonis as the first two guys off of the bench for next season would be steller and more potent in my opinion than Evans and Sabonis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADGERVOL Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 I’m from wisconsin and the only local team I’ve always rooted for since Jordan retired has been the Bucks. Curious from some outsider objective views if any of you think the Bucks are for real enough to make it to the Finals and if so could they give a run at winning it. i feel like they can make the finals and actually believe they’re pretty legit considering the rule changes of the modern game. My only reason to not trust them is that it’s SO rare to go from not advancing in the playoffs in such a long time to making it all the way to the Finals the very next year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 Bucks are for real, but a year or 2 away imo. The drop off after Greek Freak is a big one, no secondary star. Very good team, could get to the Finals, but I think Toronto is better, with Kawhi et al, they’re deeper and more experienced, and Philly is now looking legit as well. Jury’s out on Boston. Definitely interested to see how they do in the playoffs, it’s of course a different game than the regular season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 EJ adds to the Celtics recent struggles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: EJ adds to the Celtics recent struggles. A) I think he hit one of those from New Hampshire. B) Lord that's a sweet looking shot. C) All these years later and EJ is still decieving as to how quick he really is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADGERVOL Posted March 4, 2019 Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 Bucks at Gasol... Parden this Interuption...carry on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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