Collin Hartman

[milehiiu]

Should he be starting ? Or coming off the bench ?

What say you, HSN 3.0 ?

 

[5fouls]

Starting.  Intangibles mean a lot to team success.  Steadying influence at start of game gets the team out of the gate well.

[Reacher]

I think he is a clear cut starter. Don't see Justin ready to over take him and no need to start 3 guards. Archie talked about running the offense through him. He will be another coach on the floor and his shooting will help open up the offense. 

[KoB2011]

If Justin is ready, I start him and bring either Hartman or Morgan off of the bench. That might change if Clifton can give us quality minutes at the 4/5, my concern is our depth at those spots though. 

[Fundamentals]

My hope is that Collin remains healthy for his final season.  He can be a huge help whether he starts or comes off the bench.  

[3Ballin]

I would start him along with ROJO, Davis, Green and Morgan. 

That gives us some added outside shooting, somebody that can guard a big if need be and I think the 2 of best guys on our team at feeding the beast down low in Davis. Also, I think he would be able to reel in Green if he gets a little wild which I could see happening if he were with the 2nd unit. 

[NCHoosier32]

i think he can be a very important part of this team.  not as convinced as everyone else that he is a clear cut starter.  hasn't played in quite a while and i just don't remember him as quite as good as everyone else seems to remember.  that said, i could see it.  i still think the main thing comes down to how Archie operates.  does he try to start his 5 most talented players and not worry as much about position, etc.?  if so, i see the 3 guard offense we have seen in the past.  if he wants a bigger, more traditional lineup, i would say it has to be Collin.

[dbmhoosier]

Newkirk, RJ, Hartman, Morgan, and Davis starting with Greene, CUJO, Smith, and Moore coming off the bench.  That's our rotation. 

[rico]

I would like to point out something.  I think Hartman and 3 other names come quickly to mind.  Wittman, Kitchel, and Pat Graham, all of whom went down with injuries and got a medical red shirt.  Those 3 hit the floor the following season running on all cylinders.  I expect nothing less from Collin.

[Chad B]

If he is 100% healthy, I would start him.   He makes everyone around him better.

[IU Scott]

Start Colin with Newkirk, Johnson, Morgan, Davis

[Billingsley99]

Way too many intangibles to not start him.   Looking forward to see what he can do if he stays healthy.

[addictedtoIU]

Good topic Mile! Been thinking about this for a while. 

I think Colin has to start out of necessity. Looking at our current roster, we're not terrible (we've got an 'ok' roster), but this is not a normal IU roster. We've got some decent, young talents, but they're still getting acclimated to college games. Not sure at this point but hopefully Justin Smith develops throughout the season and takes some burden off of Colin's shoulder. Or another possibility is we try 3 guard lineup occasionally to give Colin some breathing room. Newkirk and Johnson will play heavy minutes, so that way we can give Jones and Green good amount of playing time for their development. 

To me, the starting lineup looks quite obvious (Davis-Morgan-Hartman-Johnson-Newkirk). 

[milehiiu]

Oh.  Just in case, anyone is still wondering about Collin's health..... he recently said he is now 100%.

And thanks addicted for the nice words. 

[Hoosier82]

I still need to see how he's healed and what he can do on the court before anointing him a starter. If he's back as good as ever, start him but if he's super rusty and showing lack of ability on the court as a result of his injuries then he needs to come of the bench and show is leadership more off the court. I'm a big fan of his so I'm hoping he's better than ever and ready to contribute in a big way both on and off the court. 

[HoosierJax]

Starter...to much experience 

[BGleas]

If he's 100%, then I would start him, unless someone is clearly outplaying him in practice, which we clearly would not know. Consistent shooting will be an issue with this team, so anyone that can help space the floor will be an asset, plus he brings so many other intangibles. 

[Reacher]

3 hours ago, dbmhoosier said:

Newkirk, RJ, Hartman, Morgan, and Davis starting with Greene, CUJO, Smith, and Moore coming off the bench.  That's our rotation. 

I would only add that I expect McSwain to be in that mix as well 

[IUwins0708]

Just now, Reacher said:

I would only add that I expect McSwain to be in that mix as well 

McSwain is Archie’s kind of player.  Strong, physical, and athletic.

[slojoe]

5 minutes ago, IUwins0708 said:

McSwain is Archie’s kind of player.  Strong, physical, and athletic.

Yes, especially on defense.  I went to the HH scrimmage, and McSwain seemed to grasp the defense better than any other player.  He also has the right tool set to play that defense -- i.e. strong, physical, and athletic.

[jefftheref]

I think you start the players that give you the best chance to win on a consistent basis. 

[FKIM01]

Hartman's health is the word...

[milehiiu]

9 minutes ago, FKIM01 said:

Hartman's health is the word...

Thinking.   Thinking.  Thinking.  Seems as if I heard that phrase before.  LOL

[Shooter]

4 hours ago, Chad B said:

If he is 100% healthy, I would start him.   He makes everyone around him better.

Yep. He's a steady, jack of all trades type that blends in well with lots of different types of players. The perfect complimentary piece for the starting line up.

[milehiiu]

A rising tide raises all boats.  When Collin is on the court, either as a starter, or coming off the bench, it is my opinion, he raises the play of all around him.