rbkl Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 Here's the case for Devonte Green taking the leadership role Other candidates that potentially would be the "main" leader next year: De'Ron Davis Joey Brunk Rob Phinisee Is there anyone else you think (a) would step up for that role or (b) be good in that role? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 Potentially lots of leadership. No mention of Al, who will continue to grow Davis is going to be a man child unleashed if fully healthy and in shape. Brunk will play his role as stabilizer, maturity, and hopefully toughness. Rob may very well be the steady hand floor leader, coach on the court. There is some hope here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 Devonte could very well lead the team in scoring, but I expect it will be more of an overall team effort than it being a single player's 'team'. There are no Cassius Winstons on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 25 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Devonte could very well lead the team in scoring, but I expect it will be more of an overall team effort than it being a single player's 'team'. There are no Cassius Winstons on the roster. Team effort is a recipe for winning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapperin LA Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 53 minutes ago, rbkl said: Here's the case for Devonte Green taking the leadership role Other candidates that potentially would be the "main" leader next year: De'Ron Davis Joey Brunk Rob Phinisee Is there anyone else you think (a) would step up for that role or (b) be good in that role? Al Durham and De'Ron Davis will lead this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 Definitely not De'Ron. It's not in his genes. Been watching him since 8th grade. Always "The Man". But never "his" team. Too much of a team player. Always looking for the open man when getting double and triple teamed. Can he lead the team ? Yes. Will he take over the team ? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feathery Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 I believe Juwan said that Al and Rob would be the leaders. With Al bringing the vocal leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 Archie did something last season, that Crean was adverse to doing. Naming a team captain. Archie went with two. I'd like to see him do that again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 I think Archie is looking for that vocal leader...that’s why you’ve heard about vocal point guards in 2020 class. I’d say Al will be our leader...but I think we have room to improve in that area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 i don't see Green being the leader. seems like that would not be ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 There might be several voices but I sure hope Rob is our leader. Or at least I think he needs to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbkl Posted June 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 Great discussion, thanks all. If I am Archie, I would want a more emotional leader. Someone that really cares about winning. I think that was the biggest problem two seasons ago. Robert Johnson, despite being a great teammate and role model, was more of the calm and cool type. Yogi Ferrell is the best example in recent history that was actively yelling at teammates to be in the right spots. Those are the types of players that catch fire and can literally put a team on their back. Is that Devonte? Not sure, but the Ohio State game showed signs of that. Rob Phinisee would be a great leader - he does all the right things on the floor and he is more of a cerebral basketball player at this point in his career. But is he also more of the quiet type? It's going to be really fun watching him develop for the Hoosiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addictedtoIU Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 I don't know whose team this is. I thought if De'Ron can play 25+ minutes and have strong on-court presence, this would be his team. He certainly has quality to look after younger kids and be a good big brother. I know it's different from being a good leader, but at least that can be a good start. In most cases, leaders are made, not born. Joey can be his good running mate. Joey needs at least one year to be fully acclimated to IU program. Personality wise, he may be a good candidate, but it's too much to ask for a transfer student. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, addictedtoIU said: I don't know whose team this is. I thought if De'Ron can play 25+ minutes and have strong on-court presence, this would be his team. He certainly has quality to look after younger kids and be a good big brother. I know it's different from being a good leader, but at least that can be a good start. In most cases, leaders are made, not born. Joey can be his good running mate. Joey needs at least one year to be fully acclimated to IU program. Personality wise, he may be a good candidate, but it's too much to ask for a transfer student. I disagree because I think leaders are born and someone can't be made into a leader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addictedtoIU Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I disagree because I think leaders are born and someone can't be made into a leader Really good leaders are born; they have the innate quality to lead people. Usually they show the quality at their younger ages. But we're talking about a college program here. A person like De'Ron who has a big heart and may have teammates' best interests at heart, can develop into a leader. Of course, he may have some growing pains and head scratching moments, but that's how most people develop themselves. Oh, one thing I like to add is the person must have desire to lead people when the moment is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 23 minutes ago, CoachSS said: No Thank god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inequality Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 Cream always rises to the top. I’m looking forward to big contributions from Rob, Trace, Arman & Hunter - if he is cleared to play. I’m curious to see if Brunk can contribute in B1G play. The size is there but I know nothing about this kid. I know we will get max effort from Al and I expect to see his game elevate even more as the offense becomes more fluid. I predict Davis to have his most efficient season yet since he finally has help/size on the post. Especially if the guys are able to knock down jumpers and keep the opposing defense from clogging the paint. I don’t see Davis as a player that will turn ESPN talking heads, but I do see him as a strong post player with good size and a decent eye that can and has been a difference maker. As for Green & Smith. I guess we will see. They will have every opportunity to contribute their worth just as they have had in previous seasons. I’m not going for the popular opinion award here but I expect we will see the same inconsistencies from these two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 This entire topic seems to be semi clickbait as I am sure the writer understands that Green has been a polarizing player since he's been at IU. I'm not saying he can't be a leader, but to ask if this is his team is a bit of a stretch at this point. That being said, if he plays under control AND stays on the floor, he has a chance to have a big year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 3 hours ago, IU Scott said: I disagree because I think leaders are born and someone can't be made into a leader Leaders can be developed. Maybe there's an innate quality that all are born with, but some develop those skills faster than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePaulieWalnuts Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 Phinisee, Durham, Brunk or Davis. I feel like it needs to be Phinisee since he’s the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 Talking about De'Ron. His new, improved body : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazin Hazin Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 I think it's Archie's team, and that's a good thing. Dan Dakich is a polarizing figure and I completely understand why, but I do agree with him when he talks about how awkward the team seemed with Romeo. I think his stardom was a little to much for the team to handle. I'm not saying anyone necessarily did anything terribly wrong, but the team just seemed to have an awkward feel to it. Coaches and players probably tried to treat Romeo like anyone else, and despite their efforts, it was probably hard to have a guy like him be "one of the guys". Hopefully- things are different this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbkl Posted June 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 2 hours ago, OGIUAndy said: This entire topic seems to be semi clickbait as I am sure the writer understands that Green has been a polarizing player since he's been at IU. I'm not saying he can't be a leader, but to ask if this is his team is a bit of a stretch at this point. That being said, if he plays under control AND stays on the floor, he has a chance to have a big year. By virtue of having the most experience on the team, isn't that fair to say it's his turn to be the main guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Cannon Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 3 hours ago, milehiiu said: Talking about De'Ron. His new, improved body : Trimming down perhaps so he can play defense on the packline. If we can have him and Brunk or TJD on the court at all times we will be dangerous. Especially if Al and Rob improve their shooting even a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Brass Cannon said: Trimming down perhaps so he can play defense on the packline. If we can have him and Brunk or TJD on the court at all times we will be dangerous. Especially if Al and Rob improve their shooting even a bit. You just nailed it. So much untapped potential on this team. Always great to hear from you, BC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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