macomb hoosier Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 36 minutes ago, 5fouls said: With most highly ranked players being one and dones, they often get drafted high based on potential and with that comes a high salary. Would be interested to see how many pf those $5M players are actually busts. A more accurate picture to me is how many have been all-stars. It probably still leans Top 15, but maybe not as heavily, especially once you get beyond that number. Agreed, the 5M isn't too arbitrary. A more accurate stat for me would be # of second contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 2018-19 FIRST TEAM F: Giannis Antetokounmpo, Milwaukee Bucks F: Paul George, Oklahoma City Thunder 😄 Nikola Jokić, Denver Nuggets G: James Harden, Houston Rockets G: Stephen Curry, Golden State Warriors SECOND TEAM F: Kevin Durant, Golden State Warriors F: Kawhi Leonard, Toronto Raptors 😄 Joel Embiid, Philadelphia 76ers G: Damian Lillard, Portland Trail Blazers G: Kyrie Irving, Boston Celtics THIRD TEAM F: Blake Griffin, Detroit Pistons F: LeBron James, Los Angeles Lakers 😄 Rudy Gobert, Utah Jazz G: Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City Thunder G: Kemba Walker, Charlotte Hornets * Official release & voting totals Tis is the list of the all NBA for 2018-2019. I did not take the time to look but a lot of these players were not 5 star recruits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 Did Logan Duncomb declare for the NBA? 6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 Just now, bluegrassIU said: Did Logan Duncomb declare for the NBA? Wait until the morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyhoosier29 Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 Big get. Kid will be an asset. Big body, can use both hands, shoot from 15 ft, and is a smart kid. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonHershey Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 I like that IU landed a player from Moeller. They are a powerhouse every single year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyhoosier29 Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 Look at that 2021-2022 roster if TJD stays a third year. 😳 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUfaninIllinois Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Fiveoutofsix said: Really like this pickup- big upside, tough kid, has a motor. Seems like recruits coming in have those traits plus personality. IU basketball future is bright. And he has an offer from Stanford what does that say about his IQ that’s one of the biggest things I personally like the most. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, IU Scott said: I would think the players association likes the one and done rule because it allows the older players more roster spots. If the players accept this then they will want something from the NBA so there will be some negotiating. Well. I am sure all of Hoosier Sports Nation knows I am an advocate for the college game. Over and above the NBA. Hey. NBA get this stupid rule over with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, milehiiu said: Well. I am sure all of Hoosier Sports Nation knows I am an advocate for the college game. Over and above the NBA. Hey. NBA get this stupid rule over with. So do I and I would love college basketball go to the baseball rule. You go straight to the NBA but f you go to college you have to stay 3 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, IU Scott said: So do I and I would love college basketball go to the baseball rule. You go straight to the NBA but f you go to college you have to stay 3 years. How in the heck can the NBA ignore the baseball rule ? So many more players. Maybe that's why the NBA has chosen not to follow MLB . Time to change. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, milehiiu said: How in the heck can the NBA ignore the baseball rule ? So many more players. Maybe that's why the NBA has chosen not to follow MLB . Time to change. probably because they know that the players association will never go for it. Also I think if we had that rule that we would see a lot more guys than we do now make huge mistakes and go straight out of high school that shouldn't. A lot of kids would not want to go to college for 3 years so they will just go straight from high school and would never be heard from ever again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv1972iu Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 7 hours ago, dbmhoosier said: Miss on Kaufman and Archie is in serious trouble IMO. He needs 2 impact big men for 2021 and Logan isn't one of them. Would you take Matt Nover? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv1972iu Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, AshtonHershey said: I like that IU landed a player from Moeller. They are a powerhouse every single year. Agree...one of the best programs in Ohio. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muckraker Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 9 hours ago, ephul said: Very LONG kid. Despite being 6'8"ish, his long arms will help tremendously. Fits in really well in our system Did he steal Kevin McHale's arms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU878176 Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 2 hours ago, IU Scott said: 2018-19 FIRST TEAM F: Giannis Antetokounmpo, Milwaukee Bucks F: Paul George, Oklahoma City Thunder 😄 Nikola Jokić, Denver Nuggets G: James Harden, Houston Rockets G: Stephen Curry, Golden State Warriors SECOND TEAM F: Kevin Durant, Golden State Warriors F: Kawhi Leonard, Toronto Raptors 😄 Joel Embiid, Philadelphia 76ers G: Damian Lillard, Portland Trail Blazers G: Kyrie Irving, Boston Celtics THIRD TEAM F: Blake Griffin, Detroit Pistons F: LeBron James, Los Angeles Lakers 😄 Rudy Gobert, Utah Jazz G: Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City Thunder G: Kemba Walker, Charlotte Hornets * Official release & voting totals Tis is the list of the all NBA for 2018-2019. I did not take the time to look but a lot of these players were not 5 star recruits. I don’t quite follow the point you are proving with your post (disparage the rankings ?) but...... Three the 15 players above are overseas and thus were not included in Rivals or 247 rankings.. Of the remaining 12 players 7 were 5 stars. An additional player was a high 4 star. On the other side of the coin Lillard was only a two star. In a given year roughly 500,000 males play hs basketball so roughly 100,000 are seniors. Of the 100,000 or so seniors an astronomically low 25-30 are 5 stars but 58% of the above players were 5 stars. If anything I think that speaks to how the odds (not a guarantee by any means) of 5 star players being good is pretty impressive. Back to the topic....glad we got Logan and hope we finish strong with Kaufman. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 5 hours ago, NCHoosier32 said: as usual, totally agree. people always say rankings don't matter, and i get it... sometimes they are way off. that said 35-80 ranked guys any day of the week! politics some times play into where they get jumbled, potential, etc, etc., but it sounds like we're landing almost all of that 80-130 range right now. sure 1 or 2 are fine, but give me at least a couple in the 15-35 range an the rest in 35-80. no, i don't want Cal's group of all 5 star guys (or at least don't expect it!). i agree with the other poster that said it's about how they fit together and play together, but talent does matter! I agree that getting guys in that area above 80 more regularly helps push you into that upper echelon...but, hear me out, I think we need to build ourselves back to that. Miller is pulling in Wisconsin level guys. If he is able to get recent Wisconsin level results, then I believe that is where the Indiana brand can kick in again and start helping us land those bigger fish. This took over 20 years to break, it will take a little while to fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornHoosier Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 This kid will be a staple come his Jr/Sr season mark my words! 75-100 ranked players take a yr or two to develop at this level but come yr 3/4 we won’t care! How long did it take Luka Garza to become dominant? This is an Iowa/Wis type player that other teams will hate in just a few short yrs! Patience HSN 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 If Trayce sticks around for a couple more years (big if) I might actually think about a red shirt and have a stop gap grad transfer or something like Brunk provided for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 I really love this and feel good about the next several years at this point. Even if Lander and TJD are gone after next year (major if) I like our roster heading into the following season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danomatic Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 18 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: I really love this and feel good about the next several years at this point. Even if Lander and TJD are gone after next year (major if) I like our roster heading into the following season. Lander will be here for at least two years. I’d be surprised if TJD came back for a third, but not completely if he loves the college game or gets valuable information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 9 hours ago, jv1972iu said: Would you take Matt Nover? As long as I don't have to give his dad a tractor and him a bag of cash. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 Welcome aboard, Logan! It'll be exciting to see this kid develop...already has a lot of tools, including a pretty good handle for a big kid... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv1972iu Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 53 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: As long as I don't have to give his dad a tractor and him a bag of cash. I think Duncomb can be at least a Matt Nover...without a tractor or cash. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 Very excited about this one. Huge upside very bright young man. 4 year player that adds to the toughness we are building at IU. Next dominoe should fall sooner rather than later. Be shocked if we dont have 1 or 2 more around 1st week of May 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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