Hoosier987 Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 First of all, Happy Thanksgiving to everyone! Thoughts on our next opponent? -- as the game is quickly approaching -- Sounds like EMU could be a test. With Archie we are no longer playing mid- to low majors ranked in the 300s. Heard they play 2-3 zone and are good at it. Is their HC from the the Boeheim coaching tree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 From the official EMU website. EMU has never beaten IU. The Official Website of Eastern Michigan Athletics EMU Men's Basketball Opens Road Slate at Indiana Friday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 Archie has repeatedly said that EMU will play the best zone defense that we will see all year long. Also they beat AKSU by a similar margin to us, if I'm not mistaken. Should be interesting game. I'm hopeful we can get out to a good start and go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 Agree, madmax. Getting of to a good start is critical to success, IHMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 I don't think Archie had much to do with this year's schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier987 Posted November 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 1 hour ago, 5fouls said: I don't think Archie had much to do with this year's schedule. I would mostly agree. With that said -- Someone correct me if I am wrong -- But I do think he scheduled some of these mid major teams. I think he scheduled opponents like ISU and those involved in the "Hoosier tip-off" which includes EMU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana Hoosier Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 1 hour ago, 5fouls said: I don't think Archie had much to do with this year's schedule. Yeah like nothing to do with it, the schedules are set over 1 year in advance. You may be able to pick some fillers but for the most part the schedule is done and Archie won’t have influence on it until next year, and that’s a maybe because a lot of those games have been scheduled as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 We open as 8 point favorites. Very nervous about this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 IU has another chance to show they are improving. I hope they pass the test with flying colors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 Have a bad feeling about this one. We're going to really have to bring it for a full 40 minutes to have a chance to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Ballin Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 As slow as we have been starting....there's no chance I woulda served turkey today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 IU will give it's best performance of the season and win the game handily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButlerHoosier Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 It will be refreshing to see a logical way at attacking a zone and seeing how to break it down rather than spray and pray! I hope to see a fundamental game where we work back door cuts behind the zone and get it into the middle to make them collapse to get an open shot or get their bigs in foul trouble. Also passing to make the zone shift and find the holes. It would be awesome to see a team that plays exclusively zone get dismantled and have to play man to man and see them get dismantled even more. It will be a good test and a good game. I am excited to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 1 minute ago, ButlerHoosier said: It will be refreshing to see a logical way at attacking a zone and seeing how to break it down rather than spray and pray! I hope to see a fundamental game where we work back door cuts behind the zone and get it into the middle to make them collapse to get an open shot or get their bigs in foul trouble. Also passing to make the zone shift and find the holes. It would be awesome to see a team that plays exclusively zone get dismantled and have to play man to man and see them get dismantled even more. It will be a good test and a good game. I am excited to see it. We’ve already played against a good deal of zone and that’s what has happened. Archie puts either Morgan or Smith at the high post and we look to get the ball to the middle and high/low with Davis or reverse the ball quickly. You can already see the difference Archie makes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier987 Posted November 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 1 hour ago, BGleas said: We’ve already played against a good deal of zone and that’s what has happened. Archie puts either Morgan or Smith at the high post and we look to get the ball to the middle and high/low with Davis or reverse the ball quickly. You can already see the difference Archie makes. This is true. Didn't Arkansas St. play zone? I believe we had our best points per possession game against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 8 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said: This is true. Didn't Arkansas St. play zone? I believe we had our best points per possession game against them. Arkansas St did and I believe Howard did as well and we did really well against it then too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 11 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said: This is true. Didn't Arkansas St. play zone? I believe we had our best points per possession game against them. Yes and Morgan shined in breaking it. Good sign going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 This is partly schedule driven, but EMU has some strong numbers. 85.3 PPG on 50% shooting. 64.5 points allowed, a +21. 40.0 rebounds per game.12 steals per game, and 16.5 assists per game. Better than IU across the board. IU's: 76 PPG on 49.6 FGs. 74.8 PA. 34.8 RPG. 5.4 SPG. 15.0 APG. That 12 steals per game stat could be key here. We need to take care of the ball, limit points off TO's. Again, partly schedule driven -- their games against Howard and Ark St look very similar to ours, but should be a test game. The Seton Hall game should help us, they haven't been tested like that, good game to see how, early, our guys have learned from a challenge in order to apply it going forward. Some related player (early) season stats that should improve 3-point FG's -- Rob shooting only 33%, that's way below his average. Note Green is shooting 43%. Newkirk 25% and CuJo 23.5. TO's -- Green 2.6 per game, Rob 2.4. Last game showed improvement. Both need to continue to improve taking care of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 Need Rojo to get his Mojo..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 One more thing on EM's zone -- very similar to Syracuse, note that EM asst coach Murphy is a former Cuse asst. And this is a big team, very good game to see how Morgan and Davis do battling for position in the zone (2-3) against strong bigs. EM's starting forwards/wing: Thompson, 6'10, averaging 16 and 13. He's their beast. Minnie, 6'9, averaging 18 PPG Bond, 6'7, averaging 10 PPG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier987 Posted November 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 They are a team full of length! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slojoe Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 Right now we're playing like a bottom-feeder B1G team, but lots of room to improve. EMU our toughest test so far other than Seton Hall at their place. Their front court will be a big test for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 18 hours ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: We open as 8 point favorites. Very nervous about this game. So they are saying even money at their place. AH is worth 8 points most nights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefftheref Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 Hopefully they don't come out with the lackadaisical attitude and allow Eastern to hit some some shots and gain some confidence. Indiana is not talented enough or has the mental toughness to get behind and fight their way back. Good luck to them and please pay like to you want to be playing for Indiana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 I'll echo others. This one has me a bit nervous. Really good/long players who play one of the best 2-3 zones going. 4 starters who average double figures. Hoping for a strong start for the first time this year. Edit-If Newkirk does a couple of quick turnovers. Yank him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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