Hoosierhoopster Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, rico said: UNLV? Wait, are we talkin Tarkanian? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 6 hours ago, IUFLA said: It's interesting to me that back in the 2 years Butler made national headlines 2010 and 2011, the majority of their kids were from Indiana, or nearby states...This year's roster is all over the place, with only 2 Indiana kids, neither who saw significant time in the opener... Is that a recruiting strategy change on Butler's part, or just an residual of recruiting opportunities? Recruiting opportunities that come from their move to the Big East. Same with Creighton etc etc. The step up in conference will sustain them for a long time because now they don’t have to live on the IU/Purdue scraps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 17 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said: Wait, are we talkin Tarkanian? Lol Mid-major conference to build the program? Tark did(yoda voice). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, dgambill said: Recruiting opportunities that come from their move to the Big East. Same with Creighton etc etc. The step up in conference will sustain them for a long time because now they don’t have to live on the IU/Purdue scraps. Whoa, some of those "scraps" were pretty damn tasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaloisGroupe Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 23 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said: Wait, are we talkin Tarkanian? Lol Are you suggesting that Butler is a semi-pro team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted December 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, rico said: Mid-major conference to build the program? Tark did(yoda voice). They were an independent for a part of Tark's successful years...early in his tenure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, rico said: Mid-major conference to build the program? Tark did(yoda voice). Yep Tark started that in the mid 70s right? I’d say Gonzaga is the latest team to make the jump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 Question remains if they can remain a national name brand. As we’ve seen with IU....success and national relevance can be fleeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, dgambill said: Yep Tark started that in the mid 70s right? I’d say Gonzaga is the latest team to make the jump. i agree with this. Gonzaga, and WSU to an extent were the latest and last mid-majors who really played on the nation stage for quite a while. I am sure i am missing a couple but those are the 2 that stand out. I do think though that Gonzaga get alot of wins in an easy conference. Not sure how they would fare playing in th4e B1G or ACC or even the SEC on a nightly basis. Maybe the same results but probably not quite as dominate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, IUFLA said: They were an independent for a part of Tark's successful years...early in his tenure... Actually Yes and No. Tark joined the Rebs when they were in a conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted December 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 Just now, rico said: Actually Yes and No. Tark joined the Rebs when they were in a conference. True, but they dropped out soon after he arrived... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 Just now, rico said: Actually Yes and No. Tark joined the Rebs when they were in a conference. but he was a know cheater for much longer than that lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 minute ago, IowaHoosierFan said: i agree with this. Gonzaga, and WSU to an extent were the latest and last mid-majors who really played on the nation stage for quite a while. I am sure i am missing a couple but those are the 2 that stand out. I do think though that Gonzaga get alot of wins in an easy conference. Not sure how they would fare playing in th4e B1G or ACC or even the SEC on a nightly basis. Maybe the same results but probably not quite as dominate. My point(or lack of) is/was the Butler and Xavier are really nothing new to the college basketball world. One could put Louisville in that category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted December 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 Just now, rico said: One could put Louisville in that category Absolutely.., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippopotamo Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 Any word on the likelihood of this game happening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, IUFLA said: True, but they dropped out soon after he arrived... 2 years after he arrived? When we played them in '87 the Rebs were in a conference. After '77 that independent route didn't work too well for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted December 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 And Marquette... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, IowaHoosierFan said: but he was a know cheater for much longer than that lol Was he? Not by today's standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 minute ago, rico said: Was he? Not by today's standards. Uh oh...you just woke the sleeping bear....cue Scott in 3...2...1 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, IUFLA said: And Marquette... Marquette never joined a conference until the late 80's(?). Must have been a Catholic school thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted December 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 Just now, rico said: Marquette never joined a conference until the late 80's(?). Must have been a Catholic school thing? I think it was more an Al McGuire thing, but who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 minute ago, IUFLA said: I think it was more an Al McGuire thing, but who knows? He retired after '77. But I think those Catholic schools in the Mid-West were in cahoots with each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, rico said: Marquette never joined a conference until the late 80's(?). Must have been a Catholic school thing? Quite a different landscape back then was it not? Many schools only getting 1 team into the NCAA tournament etc? Kinda like ND in football/basketball it’s an easier path....not until tv money came along did it really change college sports for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, rico said: He retired after '77. But I think those Catholic schools in the Mid-West were in cahoots with each other. Well once tv money came along they all joined up in the big East basically. That conference was jammed pack full of Catholic schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 minute ago, dgambill said: Quite a different landscape back then was it not? Many schools only getting 1 team into the NCAA tournament etc? Kinda like ND in football/basketball it’s an easier path....not until tv money came along did it really change college sports for good. Completely different is an understatement.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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