Bustout Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 Has he ever been considered or has he wanted a D1 job? Does he want to stay at IWU based on religious beliefs, comfort level, etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 Not a Bad record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 16 minutes ago, Bustout said: Has he ever been considered or has he wanted a D1 job? Does he want to stay at IWU based on religious beliefs, comfort level, etc? I have a friend whose son is a manger for the women's team there. The talk there is he is happy at that level and is not looking to go anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 25 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I have a friend whose son is a manger for the women's team there. The talk there is he is happy at that level and is not looking to go anywhere. Sure. How much is he now making? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustout Posted December 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 26 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I have a friend whose son is a manger for the women's team there. The talk there is he is happy at that level and is not looking to go anywhere. Thanks. I figured a program would’ve offered him by now and his choice would’ve been to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 Just now, dbmhoosier said: Sure. How much is he now making? I know it might be hard for you to understand but not everyone is consumed with money and is their main priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 31 minutes ago, HoosierJax said: Not a Bad record interesting. i didn't know this story at all. that is very cool. something said for a guy who is willing to build something like this and stick with it. i would love to see the Hoosiers change his mind! can anyone else tell me more about him? offense/defense? calm/animated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustout Posted December 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, NCHoosier32 said: interesting. i didn't know this story at all. that is very cool. something said for a guy who is willing to build something like this and stick with it. i would love to see the Hoosiers change his mind! can anyone else tell me more about him? offense/defense? calm/animated? I recall on the old board people saying he was the best X and O coach in the state (around CTC tenure). When Archie was hired, people speculated if he would consider being on staff as an assistant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 just read an article on him. i am intrigued for sure! so far i can't find anything about what he runs. would love to hear from someone about his offense style - fast paced, slowed down, etc. also defense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustout Posted December 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 18 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I know it might be hard for you to understand but not everyone is consumed with money and is their main priority. Kinda like Mark Few. He’s happy - granted he’s making $1.8mm/year ... but he easily could’ve gone anywhere for double that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWatShot Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 People really think an NAIA coach could come here and successfully transition? I mean, we're watching someone struggle going from the A-10 to the Big Ten. Not a knock on Tonagel, his record is impressive, but that's a tremendous leap and a totally different game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, TheWatShot said: People really think an NAIA coach could come here and successfully transition? I mean, we're watching someone struggle going from the A-10 to the Big Ten. Not a knock on Tonagel, his record is impressive, but that's a tremendous leap and a totally different game. Glad someone said that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustout Posted December 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, TheWatShot said: People really think an NAIA coach could come here and successfully transition? I mean, we're watching someone struggle going from the A-10 to the Big Ten. Not a knock on Tonagel, his record is impressive, but that's a tremendous leap and a totally different game. I was just curious if a school like, Illinois State or someone has reached out in the past. Just seems with so much success and if being a head coach at a D1 school was his priority, he would’ve left by now. I don’t think IU would hire him directly from IWU - too risky. But if he can coach, he can coach. I realize a lot more is involved for IU vs IWU (recruiting, etc.) its not impossible ... look at Bo Ryan. But really my question was around his priorities from those in the know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 11 minutes ago, TheWatShot said: People really think an NAIA coach could come here and successfully transition? I mean, we're watching someone struggle going from the A-10 to the Big Ten. Not a knock on Tonagel, his record is impressive, but that's a tremendous leap and a totally different game. Steve Alford? Bo Ryan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, Bustout said: I was just curious if a school like, Illinois State or someone has reached out in the past. Just seems with so much success and if being a head coach at a D1 school was his priority, he would’ve left by now. I don’t think IU would hire him directly from IWU - too risky. But if he can coach, he can coach. I realize a lot more is involved for IU vs IWU (recruiting, etc.) its not impossible ... look at Bo Ryan. But really my question was around his priorities from those in the know. Ryan did not go directly from D3 to UW but went to UW Milwaukee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustout Posted December 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: Ryan did not go directly from D3 to UW but went to UW Milwaukee True. I stand corrected. He was D2 for 15 years then UWM for 2 years. I would love if IU had him on staff as an assistant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 25 minutes ago, TheWatShot said: People really think an NAIA coach could come here and successfully transition? I mean, we're watching someone struggle going from the A-10 to the Big Ten. Not a knock on Tonagel, his record is impressive, but that's a tremendous leap and a totally different game. I don’t know about IWU, but my nephew wrestled for an NAIA school. Although he was a good student, he was an exception. The rep of NAIA schools is jock factories that recruit kids who would have little chance of getting accepted elsewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 Heres a few comments worth noting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 hour ago, TheWatShot said: People really think an NAIA coach could come here and successfully transition? I mean, we're watching someone struggle going from the A-10 to the Big Ten. Not a knock on Tonagel, his record is impressive, but that's a tremendous leap and a totally different game. i'm really not sure. a big part of me says you either got it or you don't. i have a feeling this guy could get it done wherever he goes. he doesn't play any gimmicks does he? like zone pressing, run and gun every possession, etc.? i really don't know. i'm asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 3 hours ago, NCHoosier32 said: i'm really not sure. a big part of me says you either got it or you don't. i have a feeling this guy could get it done wherever he goes. he doesn't play any gimmicks does he? like zone pressing, run and gun every possession, etc.? i really don't know. i'm asking. Check this out: https://iwuwildcats.com/sports/mens-basketball/stats/2020 And I thought this guy was plenty good enough to play at IU. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Mangas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrangerHoosier Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 16 hours ago, Bustout said: I was just curious if a school like, Illinois State or someone has reached out in the past. Just seems with so much success and if being a head coach at a D1 school was his priority, he would’ve left by now. I don’t think IU would hire him directly from IWU - too risky. But if he can coach, he can coach. I realize a lot more is involved for IU vs IWU (recruiting, etc.) its not impossible ... look at Bo Ryan. But really my question was around his priorities from those in the know. It's interesting Valpo didn't reach out when they had vacancies recently, considering he's an alum and he wouldn't have to move very far. A move up to that level from IWU would make more sense before a jump to the meat grinder of a conference like the B1G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, GrangerHoosier said: It's interesting Valpo didn't reach out when they had vacancies recently, considering he's an alum and he wouldn't have to move very far. A move up to that level from IWU would make more sense before a jump to the meat grinder of a conference like the B1G. very true. i'm sure that would likely be the path if he wants it. i'm not sure a guy like this couldn't just jump to the grinder though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 honestly, i think the big question would be recruiting. if he could recruit well enough, i bet he'd be just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, GrangerHoosier said: It's interesting Valpo didn't reach out when they had vacancies recently, considering he's an alum and he wouldn't have to move very far. A move up to that level from IWU would make more sense before a jump to the meat grinder of a conference like the B1G. What vacancies? The coach they got now has been there for 5 years and took over for Bryce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustout Posted December 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 16 minutes ago, GrangerHoosier said: It's interesting Valpo didn't reach out when they had vacancies recently, considering he's an alum and he wouldn't have to move very far. A move up to that level from IWU would make more sense before a jump to the meat grinder of a conference like the B1G. Did they not reach out or were they just told no thanks early in the process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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