IUFLA Posted November 14, 2021 Report Share Posted November 14, 2021 When: Wednesday, November 17th 9 PM EST Where: Simon Skjodt Assembly Hall, Bloomington, Indiana TV: FS1 St Johns is 2-0 with wins over Mississippi Valley St (358 which is last in Kenpom ratings) 119-61 and St Peters (174 in KenPom) 91-70 The Red Storm are led by former UAB, Mizzou, and Arkansas head Coach Mike Anderson...He's pretty good with a 404-226 lifetime record and never had a losing season as a D1 coach in 19 years. He's a Nolan Richardson disciple that will press the whole game under the "40 minutes of Hell" concept. Roster The Champagnie Kid led the Big East in scoring last year at 19.5 ppg. The Soriano kid is big, but not very mobile, with a decent inside game. Think De'Ron Davis type. Notice a couple of names from the past...Montez Mathis who transferred in from Rutgers, and former Boilermaker Aaron Wheeler... They're shooting 48% from 3 as a team, so they can make them...Albeit against lesser competition...I watched about half of the game yesterday against St Peters, and the kid to really watch out for is Tareq Coburn...He can shoot the 3 very well... Their half court D was nothing to write home about, but they do press the whole game...I see Xavier Johnson and Rob Phinisee as being keys to breaking their pressure and getting some good looks for Stewart and Kopp in transition... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted November 14, 2021 Report Share Posted November 14, 2021 Why has St. Johns had more historical success than St. Peters? St. Joes? How about, St. Marys, St. Thomas, and St. Bonaventure? Who made St. Johns the Patron Saint of Basketball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted November 14, 2021 Report Share Posted November 14, 2021 Looking forward to a game against some better competition to see how the players respond and who gets minutes. Durr will be a handy guy to go against Soriano. Just have to keep the Champagne in the bottle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted November 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2021 11 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Who made St. Johns the Patron Saint of Basketball? It was either the Pope or Louie Carnesseca...can't remember which Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Kellogs Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 I’m excited about this one!! St. John’s looks lazy on defense! Guard them hard on defense and limit their 3’s we should be fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWB Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, Jackson Kellogs said: I’m excited about this one!! St. John’s looks lazy on defense! Guard them hard on defense and limit their 3’s we should be fine! I wouldn't under estimate their defense. They are quick. Really good on ball defense IMO, and played harder in the St Peters game than we did against NIU. I think we'll be tested signficantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Kellogs Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, DWB said: I wouldn't under estimate their defense. They are quick. Really good on ball defense IMO, and played harder in the St Peters game than we did against NIU. I think we'll be tested signficantly. St. Peter’s was terrible.. in my opinion.. their guards were weak with the basketball. Not saying they’re defense isn’t good but I’m not too worried about it but it will be a good test! As long as we do what we need to do we will be fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted November 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, DWB said: I wouldn't under estimate their defense. They are quick. Really good on ball defense IMO, and played harder in the St Peters game than we did against NIU. I think we'll be tested signficantly. I thought their pressure up the floor was good, but in the half court I thought their defense was mediocre... Like I said, Xavier Johnson and Rob could be big for us...limit the turnovers and beat that press and we can get some easy ones... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 hour ago, IUFLA said: I thought their pressure up the floor was good, but in the half court I thought their defense was mediocre... Like I said, Xavier Johnson and Rob could be big for us...limit the turnovers and beat that press and we can get some easy ones... It probably is like playing Iowa back in the day when Tom Davis was the coach. If their press turns you over it will cause a lot of problems. If you break the press then it could be a layup line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 Might be a good game for Trey Galloway with his ability to attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyHoosier22 Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 First big test of the season, hope Assembly Hall brings it for this one. Hope we can rattle them early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inequality Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 Let’s hope they don’t have a 18% average shooter that has a career high scoring game going 13-16 from the behind the ark. Typical… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fundamentals Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 Would be a good game for Miller Kopp to get going from 3. He has been quiet through first 2 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 7 hours ago, Inequality said: Let’s hope they don’t have a 18% average shooter that has a career high scoring game going 13-16 from the behind the ark. Typical… Yeah, I suspect that Noah guy will be the one to hit from behind the ark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWB Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Fundamentals said: Would be a good game for Miller Kopp to get going from 3. He has been quiet through first 2 games. Agreed. But if he's still "cold as ice" from deep, I think Leal deserves a chance to replace him. Kopps defense isn't really that much better than Leal's, and personally, I think Leal is just as good a shooter as Kopp. Leal played pretty well for the 5 min he played in NIU game, except for getting beat once on a back door cut. IF Trayce is limited in minutes,or not play, Durr & maybe even Duncomb will get a chance to prove themselves big-time. (no pun intended) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted November 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, DWB said: IF Trayce is limited in minutes,or not play Is Trayce hurt or something? I hadn't heard anything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv1972iu Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 hour ago, rico said: Yeah, I suspect that Noah guy will be the one to hit from behind the ark. Hmmm...I heard his head coach told him he only needed to take 2's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv1972iu Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 hour ago, IUFLA said: Is Trayce hurt or something? I hadn't heard anything... DWB may be referring to an injury report he heard of. Same info came up over on BTB, but was refuted as being old info. Same report had a number of SJU players as game time decisions. No one on BTB heard of any injuries to Trayce, Race, or any of our guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 Is this game part of a larger “challenge” type series, or just a regular game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted November 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 Just now, BobSaccamanno said: Is this game part of a larger “challenge” type series, or just a regular game? Gavitt Games with Big East schools...starts tonight with Illinois at Marquette and Providence at Wisky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted November 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 Gavitt Games per B1G website 2021 Gavitt Games Schedule: -November 15th Providence Friars at Wisconsin Badgers Illinois Fighting Illini at Marquette Golden Eagles -November 16th Seton Hall Pirates at Michigan Wolverines Creighton Bluejays at Nebraska Cornhuskers -November 17th Michigan State Spartans at Butler Bulldogs St. John’s Red Storm at Indiana Hoosiers -November 18th Ohio State Buckeyes at Xavier Musketeers Rutgers Scarlet Knights at DePaul Blue Demons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inequality Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 2 hours ago, rico said: Yeah, I suspect that Noah guy will be the one to hit from behind the ark. Oh come on Dan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted November 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 So here are the starters for their first 2 games, and I assume for their game with us... Player G GS MP FG FGA FG% 2P 2PA 2P% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS Julian Champagnie 2 2 24 7 13.5 0.519 3.5 6 0.583 3.5 7.5 0.467 3.5 4 0.875 1 3 4 0 1.5 0.5 1 0.5 21 Posh Alexander 2 2 25 5.5 7.5 0.733 2.5 3 0.833 3 4.5 0.667 1 1 1 1 0.5 1.5 8 2 0.5 3 0.5 15 Joel Soriano 2 2 17 3 5.5 0.545 3 5.5 0.545 0 0 3.5 4 0.875 3.5 5.5 9 1 0 3 1.5 3 9.5 Montez Mathis 2 2 21 2.5 6 0.417 2 4.5 0.444 0.5 1.5 0.333 3.5 3.5 1 1.5 3 4.5 2.5 1.5 0.5 1.5 1.5 9 Stef Smith 2 2 19 2.5 4.5 0.556 2.5 2.5 1 0 2 0 0.5 1 0.5 0 3.5 3.5 2 0 0 1 3 5.5 Champagnie is 6'8 but plays out on the floor for the most part...I was thinking Race draws that assignment Posh Alexander is 6'0 and their point guard...XJ Stef Smith is 6'2 Parker? Mathis is 6'4, so I assume Kopp And TJD on Soriano... I wonder if Stewart and/or Kopp are good enough ball handlers to help XJ with the press,,If not, I would think Rob will make an early entrance... Size advantage for us in the half court though... And I feel pretty good knowing our 3rd string PG (who I think will see some action) is a pretty good ball handler himself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 2 hours ago, IUFLA said: Gavitt Games per B1G website 2021 Gavitt Games Schedule: -November 15th Providence Friars at Wisconsin Badgers Illinois Fighting Illini at Marquette Golden Eagles -November 16th Seton Hall Pirates at Michigan Wolverines Creighton Bluejays at Nebraska Cornhuskers -November 17th Michigan State Spartans at Butler Bulldogs St. John’s Red Storm at Indiana Hoosiers -November 18th Ohio State Buckeyes at Xavier Musketeers Rutgers Scarlet Knights at DePaul Blue Demons I see Big 10, at worst, going 6-2 with that slate. No Villanova or UConn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Inequality said: Oh come on Dan! That's an act of domestic terrorism right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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