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  1. 20 points
    Even Tom Crean is embarrassed by how bad that defense was.
  2. 20 points
    I have been preaching this in terms of Smith, for what seems like months now. As for the coaching replacement thread going on. I have been through my share of those. Over the years. Davis. Sampson. Crean. It has worn me out. I am staying out of it this time. Nothing mere fans like us can do about it. So why worry. I have seen members feeling the current replacement talk could harm recruiting. I can't see how that talk can help. I am going to continue to support IUBB in a positive way. The return of Coach Knight, was like putting a patch on a wound that kept festering for years. Some members have said they are turning away from IUBB, due to the current product on the court. Let it be known. That is something I will never do.
  3. 17 points
    I spoke to his coach today and got an update on how his senior season is going for those interested. https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/iu-basketball-recruiting-checking-in-on-2020-signee-jordan-geronimo/
  4. 16 points
    Drove over to watch Louis Lesmond tonight. His HS plays in a very competitive conference and they have had a great season. 25-3 with three legit D1 prospects. Lesmond's high school, Niles Notre Dame, played at Benet Academy. Benet's coach was honored for getting win 300 or something. Dude is a great, great coach. Anyway... - Lesmond struggled. I'd go as far as saying "badly" but it wasn't without excuse. Benet was deliberate (read: held the ball excessively) and was smart to avoid getting into a running game against ND. Lesmond's first shot he swished a three from the top of the key after coming off of two screens. His release, his mechanics. He can TOTALLY sell me as a long-range bomber. He is definietly a specialist, I believe. - I have concerns over his lateral movement. He was wearing a knee brace so maybe he's nicked up? I haven't seen him before and don't wish to overthink one evaluation. I saw him play four quarters. I'm not an expert on him. And wouldn't even feel comfortable speaking too confidently until I'd seen him 3-4 times. Anyway, I'm not sure he's a high-level athlete laterally. But, there is some lift in his legs. So, he can jump a bit. He had a really nice and-one on an up-and-under when the game was back-and-forth in the 4th Q. Pretty crafty around the rim it seemed. But, again, only one evaluation. - I do think he's 6'5. In the 4th Q he got going a bit more. I was a little distracted because I'd moved seats and started chatting with a pair of coaches many of you know... - But, there is some tools to work with. He seems smart. Didn't force anything. Naturally operated off-ball and was looking to shoot first, drive second. Benet put a tiny PG on him to harrass him, flop around and try to frusrtate him. It worked. He wasn't comfortable. But, he made some plays. Ultimately, Lesmond is a kid to follow becaue he's a high-major specialist. He isn't a world-class basketball player. He can be a world-class long-range sniper. And, he's on a good trek (from what others have told me about many of his other games) to be just that: a three-point specialist. I'll see him later on and have some other thoughts down the line, perhaps. Pretty good player but a long way to go. Interested to see him play again though. Hard to deny the initial postivies (shooting, frame) and some negatives (lateral movement, physicality side of the sport). Two other asides... - His dad played at Purdue. Take FWIW. Not sure PU would ever be a fit for him for a few reasons though. - Someone in the crowd may have mentioned that he felt pretty good about a kid from Silver Creek... Go Hoosiers.
  5. 16 points
    Really, really liked what I just heard from Archie post game. We have a guy who knows the deal.
  6. 16 points
    Ahh the Debbie Downers have to take a night off. so much easier on us mods 😂😂😂😁
  7. 15 points
    The thing is that span is a tale of multiple coaching changes Bookended with the wholesale destruction of the basketball program courtesy of the combination of Sampson, the ncaa’s treatment of telephone infractions, and IU’s over the top response. and yet what do the fans on message board say? They say, hey let’s fire the coach! at some point the fans need to finally get that a program needs continuity, and support the program through it.
  8. 14 points
    I don't care if every single player in the locker room hates each other. I don't care if they wouldn't piss on each other if they were on fire. And i don't care for the lip service that CAM is throwing out there post game after post game. He doesn't do anything. We start the same 5 guys. We play the exact same offensive and defensive schemes. We bring the same 5 who started the game out for the start of the second half. We don't adjust our offense or defense for the second half. Do something! Anything Different. Play man to man. Go full court press the whole game. Don't sub anyone out of the game. Start 5 completely different guys. Play a game where we shoot nothing but 3's. I don't care anymore. Stop talking. Stop apologizing. Stop being mediocre. Be bold. Be different. Be Courageous. Be anything different that what we are right now. It can't get any worst. If they fire you, fine, you walk about with 20 million dollars and will easily find another job. Remember we're the nut job fan base with the AD who won't let you do anything. DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT PLEASE!
  9. 12 points
    I’ll say this, as I’ve preached patience, I’m starting to get impatient. I’m still just dumbfounded that Archie hasn’t been able to get this team, or really any team since he’s been here, to play hard and play with his personality. This is not what I thought we were getting. Unless he miraculously gets this team to turn it around these last 3 weeks or so, I expect some big changes to both his roster and his staff. If IU limps down the stretch it will be very difficult to get excited about next season without some major changes. Just being completely honest, I’m not there yet, but I’m getting closer to where I was towards the end of Crean’s last season, where I was wanting the bottom to fall out so there would be a change. Again, I’m not there yet, I hope Archie somehow gets these guys to buy in down the stretch and I’ll be rooting like crazy for a win vs. Minny, but I’d be lying if I said the thought isn’t beginning to creep in. I hope we win games, but I have little faith going into them, especially road games, and that’s sad It’s just disappointing because I really like Archie. I think he could be a great fit at IU. I’m rooting for him. But right now it’s just not working. Something is missing.
  10. 12 points
    I want Race to start next game. Move Brunk to the bench. I love the heart Race plays with. He’s only going to get better.
  11. 11 points
  12. 10 points
    These aren’t just “road losses” though. We’re getting destroyed on the road. Complete no-shows. That matters. Losing by 20 every road game isn’t the same as losing by 3. The margin of defeat and offensive/defensive efficiencies impact NET, RPI, Saragin, being ranked in general, etc.
  13. 10 points
    So, who, if anyone, affiliated with IU, do you think 'cared' today. I did not see another player get in a teammate's face. I did not see the coaching staff light a fire or make lineup changes De'Ron, bless his heart, was an absolute beast, but even before he landed on his head, he was asking to come out of the game. If I'm having the kind of game he's having and I'm getting pissed at the coach for even considering taking me out, let alone asking to come out. At halftime of the Butler / Georgetown game yesterday, Patrick Ewing was asked about how he would handle it if his players got fatigued, and he responded "They can worry about how tired they are tomorrow." That's the type of commitment to the game I want from IU's coaches and players.
  14. 10 points
    It’s not uncommon to lose road games. What is uncommon, and why Indiana doesn’t rate well in any of the rankings, is losing all of your road games by 15-20+. IU doesn’t even compete on the road. That’s the difference.
  15. 10 points
    Huge, huge win! A few random thoughts... - Obviously, DG and Trayce were great, but it's so huge for this team when multiple guys (Phinisee, Hunter, Durham) hit at least 1 3. To have multiple guys make a 3, and two guys (DG & Phinisee) hit more than 1 was huge. - If IU can get the Race Thompson from tonight and the one that was coming on prior to the MSU game injury, that will be a huge help. He allows IU to still be somewhat big, but not lose athleticism. He also plays as hard as anyone. - I don't know if the minutes breakdown bears this out, but from the eye test it seemed like Phinisee and Green played together much more in this game than they have been. It reminded me of down the stretch last season when Phinisee finally got healthy and Green thrived playing off the ball. Especially in the second half, Green was basically a spot-up shooter off of others creating offense. That's huge for him because it allows him to shoot, but eliminates the stuff where he has to create and be a decision maker. I hope this was a purposeful thing and that it happens more. You could see Green moving the ball quickly if he didn't have a shot, as opposed to the constant dribbling he sometimes does, and also looking to get the ball to Phinisee if someone outletted to him. - I don't want to get too excited about the offensive explosion. Iowa is not a good defensive team and they're also just as bad as IU on the road. Sort of a 'perfect storm' type of scenario, especially when you add in that IU's backs were against the wall. - Loved the gameplan of playing Garza 1-on-1 and not doubling. Let him get his and just shut the others down. Worked to perfection. - Smith was fantastic defensively. IU is so much better when Smith focuses on being the defensive leader, plays hard, and just lets offense come to him if it's there.
  16. 10 points
    1A on IU wish list as of today...
  17. 10 points
    The times certainly changed. The 1987 championship team was the first IU basketball team that I followed all season. I remember my dad cussing a blue streak when we lost to Vanderbilt early on. The fall of 1986 was really when I started to learn to understand and follow sports in general. Watching games and gaining an understanding of what was going on. I watched every single game of the 1987 title run. Definitely was not old enough to appreciate it, at that age you just expect that is going to happen all the time. From there you had the 1989 team then the Cheaney years. I never felt more crushed as an IU basketball fan than when Kansas eliminated us and dealing with the fact Calbert and his teammates were not going to hang a banner. I had zero doubt it was happening (even with the Henderson injury) until the KU game as lost. I went out to the barn after that game and shot baskets with tears in my eyes. I arrived in Bloomington in the fall of 1994 as an incoming freshmen with a sense of wonder. I got to see our home court winning streak extend to 50 despite Shawn Respert single-handedly almost ruining it after the crowd taunted him with chants of Respert, Respert. I got to see Alan Henderson and Brian Evans play. I got to meet Andrae Patterson before classes started that fall and it as like the coolest thing ever, I called my dad and told him about that. I asked Andrae how it was going and he said his knees were sore, lol. I ended up spending 5 years at IU and I had student tickets every year. Saw 50+ games at Assembly Hall. Maybe the teams never lived up the normal RMK standards but I had a hell of a fun time being at the games and witnessed some great moments. I was there for 5 of Bobby's final 6 seasons. The day I walked through my graduation line in Memorial Stadium I would have never imagined we would be in this spot 20 years into the future. Across all the various coaches and situations. Actually the last time I saw a game at Assembly Hall was the first exhibition game under Davis. I was working in Indy and someone had free tickets. We beat whatever team it was on a Coverdale 3 pointer that bounced like 3 times on the rim. I really did believe we were back with the Cody/Oladipo teams. I bought the t-shirts. WE ARE BACK. We were back! Only temporarily, unfortunately. All of that just to say in the end...no matter who the coach has been, I want them to be successful. I want them to be 'the guy'. Having a never-ending revolving door of coaches is not a good feeling. To be in that situation perpetually says more about the people in charge than anything else. Still hoping Archie is the guy. Go IU!
  18. 9 points
    Alright, found the scoring plays from the first half. Time to break down all of the times our bigs hedging hurt us. Links will take you to the time the play occurred so you can watch it as well. Durham out of position after helping on Brunk's guy (2 points) Durham out of position after helping on Brunk's guy. Allows drive, TJD fouls (2 points) TJD covers Brunk's guy. Allows open 3 (3 points) Davis hedges, slow to recover, gives his guy great position on the block (2 points) This one could possibly be debated. Race starts moving up to hedge, Simpson crosses over and doesn't take the screen. Race is out of position to help, Davis slides over, gives up wide open 3 (3 points) Davis hedges, help isn't there, open guy under the basket, Race fouls (1 point) Doesn't show the whole play, but Brunk hedged, his guy rolled to the basket, and actually boxed out Brunk to get the rebound and put back (2 points) Brunk goes to hedge on a handoff, leaves the back cut wide open, TJD fouls (2 points) Brunk hedges, his guy rolls, wide open layup (2 points) This one could be debated too. Brunk hedges, TJD helps. His guy drives, and Smith helps. Kicks to Smith's guy who drives for the layup (2 points) Davis hedges, his guy rolls, wide open dunk (2 points) Davis hedges, still recovering when Durham's guy beats him and is out of position to help against the drive (2 points) By my count, we gave up 25 of our 41 first half points either directly or indirectly related to our bigs hedging. That wasn't the only issue for some of the plays, but it was definitely a contributing factor.
  19. 9 points
  20. 9 points
    Question I have for Doyel : "How do you feel about being an ash hat all these years?"
  21. 9 points
    It was Doyel. I can't tell you how many times he has done stuff like last night. It is always about him. The guy is a tool. His questions of Justin Smith earlier in the year were far worse.
  22. 9 points
    Dear Garza Please go pro Sincerely, The 13 other teams in the Big 10
  23. 9 points
    I know. Man, we got lucky. And we were so fortunate how the ball just kept bouncing our way as we out rebounded them by 10. We just got lucky and earned nothing!
  24. 9 points
    Let’s steal one of the next two and protect home court!
  25. 9 points
    I'd really like to make the tournament. It's my favorite time of the year, my favorite sporting event, and it sucks when we're not in it, even if we're a really high seed.
  26. 8 points
    We're not firing Archie immediately and hiring Beilein We're not firing Archie at the end of this year and hiring Beilein We're not firing Archie after next year and hiring Beilein No matter how hard some of you wish it...
  27. 8 points
    In my humble opinion, Trayce Jackson Davis, had his best OVERALL game of his fledgling IU career. Yet, not one mention in the game thread, nor up till now in this post game thread. A lot of talk about Garza. A lot of talk about Green. Understood. However there are times that it takes a game like the one that TJD had, from keeping the game from falling apart. Oh well.... it must be me.
  28. 8 points
    Iowa is 17-8 on the season. Indiana is 16-8 on the season and owns the head to head win against the Hawks. We heard multiple times tonight what a great season Iowa was having while hearing about how critical of a win this was for IU.
  29. 8 points
    I brought this up in non IU thread. We're up 15...for the life and love of IU I would like to see us take the 15 point lead and throat punch them and get up 23 by 13 minute mark. For once please.
  30. 8 points
    MRI on Wednesday, revealed not structural damage. Sorry that's all I have got for now.
  31. 8 points
    Weren't all of those locker room issues supposed to clear up once Romeo left.
  32. 7 points
    Ain't no way any of the above 3 wind up at IU. Archie will be here for 5 years. No one knows what will happen the last 6 games or next year or whom we recruit in 2021. Totally unproductive thread that is just another cover for a fire Archie thread
  33. 7 points
    "playing like a bunch of thugs/slugs" would be a violation of the Student Athlete Bill of Rights. The Student Athlete Advisory Committee wouldn't approve his hire.
  34. 7 points
    At this point, options are limited. Play who we have been playing and have a 50/50 shot at making the tournament. Play the younger guys, build for the future, and we are even worse in the short term and would almost certainly miss the tournament. So if we stay the same, we are not going to be happy. We get worse, to get better, his bosses would likely not be happy. As Paulie said, it is what it is. This team is what it is. And at this point, there are likely not any rabbits to pull from a hat. What that means long term, I am mixed about. In the end, I will support his team with low expectations and hope for the best. Long term. I do still have beleif Achie is a good coach.
  35. 7 points
  36. 7 points
    The mod’s in the middle
  37. 7 points
    Trey Galloway hangs 37 as #10 Culver comes back from a 14 point deficit at half to beat #5 Attucks on their home court in Indianapolis 64-61. He took over the game in the third quarter with 16 points outscoring the entire Attucks team. Kid can ball. Nuff said.
  38. 7 points
  39. 7 points
    I get that Smith struggled offense last night (man can he leave points on the table) but I don’t think you can overlook the defense he played on Wieskamp. Shut down their #2 option for the most part. I like that Smith doesn’t force himself into the offensive action and takes what comes to him, and that he seems really locked in on D
  40. 7 points
    Nice win. Good DeVonte showed up tonight, maybe his brother can go to Ann Arbor? But Justin Smith, how many points did he leave on the floor trying g to make a highlight reel? As I said, nice win. But I have to admit, I didn't feel too comfortable until 45 seconds left in the game.....
  41. 7 points
    Have him give his speech behind the 3-point line if they want it to be short.
  42. 7 points
    With respect to Green, you don't have the luxury of just sitting him. Rob and Jerome both have had injury issues, and AF and AD have been inconsistent at best. If you want to use the bench as a message, you kinda have to play some people you may not want to. Add in the fact that CAM would relieve a lot of pressure if we managed to get into the tournament this year, and he's got to at least dip his toe in the Devonte water each game to see what we're getting.
  43. 7 points
    The kid is really good, has a monster work ethic, is uber competitive while being a good teammate, has both the athleticism and b-ball IQ to continue to elevate his game, and plays with a winning mentality. This from a plugged in friend who watched both Geronimo and Vic, when Vic was at DeMatha, and who says Geronimo is better at this age.
  44. 7 points
    I’m obviously not stoked about what’s happened so far, but I don’t think it’s a good idea to fire a coach before giving them 4 seasons to get the program stable. So I’m not even worried about firing Archie and I’ll just continue to support this team for now. Not worth focusing on something that won’t happen anyway.
  45. 7 points
    Seriously? You talk all the time about working with Aaron Henry's dad and getting inside knowledge from him through Aaron about the MSU program. There's plenty of ways to get inside info, that's one of them. My brother worked with a player's dad (on Crean's team), so I would get bits of inside info from time to time. That was the only time I had inside info, but I knew that player was going to transfer about a year in advance. He said he couldn't stand Crean, because Crean changed once certain players made it to campus and started letting certain players get away with too many things.
  46. 7 points
    He had a good visit. His mother was really into the game. She really liked Archie. I think Indiana will have a real shot here IF they push for it. Obviously, prefer him as a '21 but Indiana seems to be interested either way. If anything, probably prefer him as a '20 but I know (factually) IU is hunting or open to hunting (wink) other '20 players once the season ends. As for Whitt, passing and IQ are impressive. Body a bit of a ways to go and laterally needs an improve. Shooting is ok. Not bad. Not great.
  47. 7 points
    Oh and even though they weren't allowed to interact with Trey and mom, a good phone conversation took place afterwards. No I have no details of that convo. I don't ask out of respect to fam.
  48. 7 points
    I just honestly, for the life of me, can’t understand a program with so much tradition and pride.... being down for this flipping long. We’ve been to what, 4 Sweet 16’s in 22 years? That’s absurd, and I’m exhausted with the wait and see game. I’m sick of us settling for mediocrity. I’m so over the excuses, it’s mind numbing. “And I’m sick and fn tired of losing to Purdue! I’m not here to f around.”
  49. 6 points
    Getting to the point where it A)is not worth getting upset about and B)you should not waste your time watching away games. We may figure out a way to limp into the NCAA tournament, but man we really don't deserve it.
  50. 6 points
    My daughter played High school volleyball. In her Junior year. They had a wonderful senior girl who was voted captain. She was very positive, but wasn’t a strong player herself. The team struggles all season. Then at the end of the season. My daughter a junior spoke up in the locker room and told the team we are better then this. We are not playing hard and we can do better. the team went on a small winning streak and got to the sectional championship game. Something that no one though possible 5 games before that. My point is OK Greens your captain, he isn’t getting it done. So someone else needs to step in and wake these guys up!
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