2018 Midterm Elections

[Brass Cannon]

3 minutes ago, mrflynn03 said:

She didnt but Feinstein did. This could have come earlier. They should have known they wouldnt be able to stop it. 

She requested anonymity though. Feinstein may not have wanted to release it and only as a last resort. 

To be fair if he had actually answered the questions he was asked instead of saying he couldn’t recall the confirmation probably dies. Frankly I think we should be concerned with putting a guy with such a crappy memory on any bench. 

[mrflynn03]

15 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

She requested anonymity though. Feinstein may not have wanted to release it and only as a last resort. 

To be fair if he had actually answered the questions he was asked instead of saying he couldn’t recall the confirmation probably dies. Frankly I think we should be concerned with putting a guy with such a crappy memory on any bench. 

That is understandable. I can respect wanting to keep annonymity.  The whole thing just went awry pretty quick.

I really didnt find him very impressive in the parts of his hearing I saw.

[Brass Cannon]

1 minute ago, mrflynn03 said:

That is understandable. I can respect wanting to keep annonymity.  The whole thing just went awry pretty quick.

I really didnt find him very impressive in the parts of his hearing I saw.

He’s a cookie cutter conservative judge. The only thing unique is his stance on presidential investigations. That’s why I feel Trump is willing to risk not getting a justice appointed in order to get this one. 

[rico]

I have a solution to all this Supreme Court stuff.  I say "The Donald" should withdraw Cavanaugh.  And then nominate Hillary, and then we can investigate her.  Sounds good to me.

[Brass Cannon]

19 minutes ago, rico said:

I have a solution to all this Supreme Court stuff.  I say "The Donald" should withdraw Cavanaugh.  And then nominate Hillary, and then we can investigate her.  Sounds good to me.

They investigated her already. You might not have heard since nobody was convicted unlike half of trumps staff

[Drroogh]

On ‎9‎/‎18‎/‎2018 at 8:55 AM, Brass Cannon said:

The problem with US politics is parties. And the voters that blindly support a party  

If you do a party line ballot you are part of the problem 

if you have voted Republican or Democrat since the 70s then your part of the problem. 

States didn’t used to be Red or Blue. Jimmy Carter won Texas for gods sake. The parties have carved up the map. Using Modern technology and advanced analytics they are able to keep states the color they have a slight disposition 

No president has given a crap about Indiana. The Dems don’t need us and the republicans take us for granted. 

Washington understood this and was opposed to parties. Presidents should be above their party and work equally with both. Since they don’t they can’t get anything done unless their party controls Congress. 

Obama had 59 senators iirc and couldn’t get his agenda done for gods sake 

Still filtering thru the pages as I've not followed this thread, but to your point, when was the last time you voted a split ticket? As for me, the last two elections at least, I voted for Republicans,  Democrats and Independents!

[Drroogh]

On ‎9‎/‎18‎/‎2018 at 9:04 AM, Brass Cannon said:

The parties have changed considerably in the last 20 years let alone the last 40 years. Reagan and Trump are nothing alike for example. So don’t tell me the same belief system led people to vote for them. 

The same party affiliation caused people to vote for them. 

And George Wallace, one of the most racist politicians ever, was a Democrat!

Not to mention, Abraham Lincoln was a Republican? 

[Drroogh]

On ‎9‎/‎18‎/‎2018 at 9:37 AM, Brass Cannon said:

The Democratic Party is splitting and I imagine that within the next 20 years the old democrats will be the new GOP or the GOP will die  

I proudly voted for McCain. I would have voted for Bush I was a day too young. But losing to Obama radicalized the GOP to support their base and only their white base.  I couldn’t support a party that only cares about white people. Primarily white men. 

With White people losing the majority and Minorities starting to vote in Texas and the western states. If the GOP doesn’t change by 2032 it will be virtually impossible for them to win a national election. As long as they don’t run another Clinton. And trump and his policies have only accelerated minority voting efforts possibly make it 2028  

Trump may very well kill the GOP the way he killed the usfl

I am a conservative this GOP is not conservative though. Which forces me into being an independent. 

While I agree with your general thought, this is not a WHITE problem. Those who believe racism is a white only problem are sorely misled!!! I have personally experienced the opposite and even players like Jordan and Lebron have admitted they were racist  at one time! Until we acknowledge that racism is a problem among ALL races we will never overcome it11

[KoB2011]

5 hours ago, mrflynn03 said:

Feinstein sat on this since July.  Wont present the unredacted letter she has to committee.   The timing of this is suspicious.

 

I have no problem saying Feinstein probably had political motivations in how she handled this. 

I have a major problem with anyone claiming to have a shred of honesty that has an issue with Feinstein and doesnt have an issue with Mitch McConnell and Republicans who support him. 

The GOP has completely bastardized the SCOTUS and the processes around it; to cry foul of anything the Democrats do is the height of hypocrisy. 

[Drroogh]

On ‎9‎/‎18‎/‎2018 at 10:49 AM, Brass Cannon said:

Yes UH is cheaper. Countries with it pay less for their healthcare than we do  

The Koch Brothers even concluded this was true with a study over the summer. The Koch brothers are ultra conservative who formed a foundation to get republicans elected and even they say it’s cheaper. 

Have you ever been outside the United States with your authoritarian opinion of how much better things are? I myself have been to Russia many times, what you expose is ludicrous! talking with  a vendor in Brussels there was good and bad. They said that that their retirement and medical was covered but their taxes were 60%! Worse, when we pressed them on how they could improve delivery, their response was we can not deliver any faster by adding personnel as we will have to hire them for life??? Things are not as wonderful as you think in reality!!!

[Brass Cannon]

43 minutes ago, Drroogh said:

While I agree with your general thought, this is not a WHITE problem. Those who believe racism is a white only problem are sorely misled!!! I have personally experienced the opposite and even players like Jordan and Lebron have admitted they were racist  at one time! Until we acknowledge that racism is a problem among ALL races we will never overcome it11

That post really wasnt about racism. It was about how the GOP has racist policies so they cant gain minority support. 

10 minutes ago, Drroogh said:

Have you ever been outside the United States with your authoritarian opinion of how much better things are? I myself have been to Russia many times, what you expose is ludicrous! talking with  a vendor in Brussels there was good and bad. They said that that their retirement and medical was covered but their taxes were 60%! Worse, when we pressed them on how they could improve delivery, their response was we can not deliver any faster by adding personnel as we will have to hire them for life??? Things are not as wonderful as you think in reality!!!

Yeah they pay more in taxes but then they dont have to pay for Medicine, healthcare or insurance. So its a net savings.  And ours wouldnt be 60 percent. 

Not sure why you said most of this since its mostly talking about stuff i never claimed. 

I never said things were so much better overseas. I said healthcare was cheaper as a whole. 

[Drroogh]

1 minute ago, Brass Cannon said:

That post really wasnt about racism. It was about how the GOP has racist policies so they cant gain minority support. 

Yeah they pay more in taxes but then they dont have to pay for Medicine, healthcare or insurance. So its a net savings.  And ours wouldnt be 60 percent. 

Not sure why you said most of this since its mostly talking about stuff i never claimed. 

Talked with an American plant manager in Russia who said his biggest problem was getting people to make decisions! The main problem with socialism/communism/welfare  is the effect it has on perhaps the most important individual need! The feeling of self worth!! When people get used to someone else making decisions and providing for them, they stop making decisions for themselves! Worse, they start to have a negative opinion of themselves! Russia has a huge alcoholism problem among men, much of it has to do with their feeling of self worth! Look at the American Indian living on a reservation, not the terrifying strong willed people depicted in History and the movies. While I agree that things like world  peace would be wonderful, I realize that world peace is not reality! Stop living in a utopian world and realize that things are far from perfect! And this I type from a drunken stupor!

[mrflynn03]

1 hour ago, KoB2011 said:

I have no problem saying Feinstein probably had political motivations in how she handled this. 

I have a major problem with anyone claiming to have a shred of honesty that has an issue with Feinstein and doesnt have an issue with Mitch McConnell and Republicans who support him. 

The GOP has completely bastardized the SCOTUS and the processes around it; to cry foul of anything the Democrats do is the height of hypocrisy. 

I think both parties have bastardized the SCOTUS.  Its supposed to be the most neutral of the 3 branches of government. Holy jumpin shitballs what happened? 

[Brass Cannon]

According to a WSJ poll support for Kavanaugh has actually gone up with republicans since he was accused of rape. 

[KoB2011]

6 hours ago, mrflynn03 said:

I think both parties have bastardized the SCOTUS.  Its supposed to be the most neutral of the 3 branches of government. Holy jumpin shitballs what happened? 

I'd be really curious to see you make an argument for how the Democrats are equal participants in this. 

[rico]

3 minutes ago, KoB2011 said:

I'd be really curious to see you make an argument for how the Democrats are equal participants in this. 

Both sides share the same goal.  To get Judges in there that favor their party's thinking lines.  Which is not what it is supposed to be about.  

[KoB2011]

Just now, rico said:

Both sides share the same goal.  To get Judges in there that favor their party's thinking lines.  Which is not what it is supposed to be about.  

Do you have an example of Democrats doing this? 

The Democrats have never appointed a judge that didn't have to pass the 60 vote threshold. 

The Republicans are the ones who removed the 60 vote threshold for the SCOTUS once they were in power. 

The Republicans refused to even hold hearings for a very middle of the road judge whom many in the GOP had no issue with. 

I'm not seeing much about how Democrats have done anything wrong with the SCOTUS. What am I missing?

[rico]

5 minutes ago, KoB2011 said:

Do you have an example of Democrats doing this? 

The Democrats have never appointed a judge that didn't have to pass the 60 vote threshold. 

The Republicans are the ones who removed the 60 vote threshold for the SCOTUS once they were in power. 

The Republicans refused to even hold hearings for a very middle of the road judge whom many in the GOP had no issue with. 

I'm not seeing much about how Democrats have done anything wrong with the SCOTUS. What am I missing?

You are not missing anything.  I touched on how I wasn't happy with the SCOTUS process earlier.  And as I said I don't consider myself a Republican.

[mrflynn03]

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/democrats-trump-cabinet-senate/513782/ 

1 hour ago, KoB2011 said:

Do you have an example of Democrats doing this? 

The Democrats have never appointed a judge that didn't have to pass the 60 vote threshold. 

The Republicans are the ones who removed the 60 vote threshold for the SCOTUS once they were in power. 

The Republicans refused to even hold hearings for a very middle of the road judge whom many in the GOP had no issue with. 

I'm not seeing much about how Democrats have done anything wrong with the SCOTUS. What am I missing?

Incorrect, Harry Reid removed the 60 vote minimum for nominees.

 

[mrflynn03]

1 hour ago, KoB2011 said:

I'd be really curious to see you make an argument for how the Democrats are equal participants in this. 

Not including the sexual assault allegation the rest of this nomination should be enough evidence. If not look back at how the democrats tried to vilify clarence thomas. An intelligent man who happened to be a black conservative.  and they attacked him with a sexaul harassment allegation.

[Reacher]

1 hour ago, KoB2011 said:

Do you have an example of Democrats doing this? 

The Democrats have never appointed a judge that didn't have to pass the 60 vote threshold. 

The Republicans are the ones who removed the 60 vote threshold for the SCOTUS once they were in power. 

The Republicans refused to even hold hearings for a very middle of the road judge whom many in the GOP had no issue with. 

I'm not seeing much about how Democrats have done anything wrong with the SCOTUS. What am I missing?

Most Republicans use a different standard in voting for a Justice. Are they QUALIFIED? The Democrats use politics. Many people knew the Dems were going to oppose whomever the nomination was and many were expecting an 11th hour charge of sexism, racism, or some other racism as that is the Dem playbook. For that reason, the whole abuse claim looks very suspicious. Let her have her say. But lets also consider the HS and College girlfriends of Kavanaugh and the dozens of women who have signed a letter supporting him. Just like with Ferguson, the Dems have had terrible luck picking a poster child for their cause. All reports say Kavanuaugh is a nice a person as you will find and he has done more for women than 99%.

If he is no longer qualified because this actually happened, I guess Ellison and Booker shouldn't be in office either. Booker wants to run for Pres when he is a self avowed groper?

The hypocrisy and double standards are glaring here. The same people who supported Hillary- who wouldn't listen to the women accusing her husband- now are concerned about this?

[Reacher]

9 minutes ago, mrflynn03 said:

Not including the sexual assault allegation the rest of this nomination should be enough evidence. If not look back at how the democrats tried to vilify clarence thomas. An intelligent man who happened to be a black conservative.  and they attacked him with a sexaul harassment allegation.

Just alluded to that. Same tired old playbook. When will it ever stop? They have their media accomplices that are only too happy to run off with anything instead of doing actual investigating of their own.

[PoHoosier]

11 minutes ago, Reacher said:

Just alluded to that. Same tired old playbook. When will it ever stop? They have their media accomplices that are only too happy to run off with anything instead of doing actual investigating of their own.

I remember back in the day The Boston Globe ran with a story of the US military sexually abusing prisoners in the middle East only to find out the source pulled pics from a pornsite making up the rest.

[KoB2011]

32 minutes ago, mrflynn03 said:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/democrats-trump-cabinet-senate/513782/ 

Incorrect, Harry Reid removed the 60 vote minimum for nominees.

 

Not for the Supreme Court. 

[Brass Cannon]

26 minutes ago, Reacher said:

Most Republicans use a different standard in voting for a Justice. Are they QUALIFIED? The Democrats use politics. Many people knew the Dems were going to oppose whomever the nomination was and many were expecting an 11th hour charge of sexism, racism, or some other racism as that is the Dem playbook. For that reason, the whole abuse claim looks very suspicious. Let her have her say. But lets also consider the HS and College girlfriends of Kavanaugh and the dozens of women who have signed a letter supporting him. Just like with Ferguson, the Dems have had terrible luck picking a poster child for their cause. All reports say Kavanuaugh is a nice a person as you will find and he has done more for women than 99%.

If he is no longer qualified because this actually happened, I guess Ellison and Booker shouldn't be in office either. Booker wants to run for Pres when he is a self avowed groper?

The hypocrisy and double standards are glaring here. The same people who supported Hillary- who wouldn't listen to the women accusing her husband- now are concerned about this?

Lol he didn’t take these women so he couldn’t have raped this one. What freaking crock. And if he’s done so much for women then why are women vastly opposed to him. 

Women sure don’t think he’s done anything  for women. 

And are you honestly trying to equate a consensual affair with Rape?  Are you for real.  

The republicans sat on a nomination for a year who was qualified so how about you stop with that nonsense