NotIThatLives Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 Losing at home is as damaging as not winning on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: Losing at home is as damaging as not winning on the road. What about neutral site games? Our wins over ND and UConn seem to get lost in the shuffle. Or at least I don't think we get any credit for those wins away from home like we should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 Will we be penalized for winning a neutral Court game in Indianapolis? Will the committee count as a home game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 43 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: What about neutral site games? Our wins over ND and UConn seem to get lost in the shuffle. Or at least I don't think we get any credit for those wins away from home like we should. Off the top of my head net says x1 at home, x1.2 neutral, x 1.4 away. Since those two are currently quad 2 sniffing one, if they get hot in their tourneys those may come up to quad 1 and help some. Need some MIT math guys in to take it from here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy1987 Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 The Pre con schedule does play into the low Net ranking. Here are the schools dragging us down: Western Illinois #334 ouch!!! Portland St #181 North Alabama #274 Princeton #168 South Dakota St. #129 You could also throw in Nebraska #198 (twice) and Northwestern #158 I'm not arguing about the quality or strength of schedule here. Just pointing out another factor for the lousy Net. Go Hoosiers!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 16 minutes ago, Indy1987 said: The Pre con schedule does play into the low Net ranking. Here are the schools dragging us down: Western Illinois #334 ouch!!! Portland St #181 North Alabama #274 Princeton #168 South Dakota St. #129 You could also throw in Nebraska #198 (twice) and Northwestern #158 I'm not arguing about the quality or strength of schedule here. Just pointing out another factor for the lousy Net. Go Hoosiers!!! If so, it only affects the Hoosiers. Tx Tech #22 NET. Non conference: E Ill 241 UTRGV 261 Tn St 268 LIU Bklyn 271 CSU Bakersfield 282 Bethune-Cookman 287 S Miss 290 Houston Baptist 344 Lost to #86 DePaul on road. Lost by 11 to IA on neutral court. Lost at home to KY and to Creighton on neutral court. Living on neutral court win over LVille. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 Interesting. So thinking about the x 1 at home, x 1.2 neutral, and x 1.4 away. The reverse has to be true when you lose. Losing at home has to be equally damnimg in reverse as it would to win on the road. Wouldn't loses at home be weighted x 1.4, lose on neutral 1.2 and lose away only at 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 22 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: Interesting. So thinking about the x 1 at home, x 1.2 neutral, and x 1.4 away. The reverse has to be true when you lose. Losing at home has to be equally damnimg in reverse as it would to win on the road. Wouldn't loses at home be weighted x 1.4, lose on neutral 1.2 and lose away only at 1? You got questions that only Joe Lunardi knows the answers to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 Who would have ever thought that in order to understand sports you have to be good at calculus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 14 minutes ago, rico said: You got questions that only Joe Lunardi knows the answers to. Freaking count Dracula. Same guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy1987 Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 1 hour ago, 13th&Jackson said: If so, it only affects the Hoosiers. Tx Tech #22 NET. Non conference: E Ill 241 UTRGV 261 Tn St 268 LIU Bklyn 271 CSU Bakersfield 282 Bethune-Cookman 287 S Miss 290 Houston Baptist 344 Lost to #86 DePaul on road. Lost by 11 to IA on neutral court. Lost at home to KY and to Creighton on neutral court. Living on neutral court win over LVille. No doubt there are head scratchers ranked higher that shouldn't be. I was just pointing out that it's not just about our lack of road wins and home losses. Go Hoosiers!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 20 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Who would have ever thought that in order to understand sports you have to be good at calculus. You just got to be good at "fuzzy math"...always remember you can make stats fit what a particular agenda is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 19 minutes ago, Indy1987 said: No doubt there are head scratchers ranked higher that shouldn't be. I was just pointing out that it's not just about our lack of road wins and home losses. Go Hoosiers!!! It's just that there's been this perception in the media that IU is being penalized for playing a weak non-conference schedule. Many teams ahead of them in the NET rankings played significantly weaker schedules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 19 minutes ago, rico said: You just got to be good at "fuzzy math"...always remember you can make stats fit what a particular agenda is. Well that is bad for me because I had to stop helping my kids doing math homework after their 4th grade year LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy1987 Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 17 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said: It's just that there's been this perception in the media that IU is being penalized for playing a weak non-conference schedule. Many teams ahead of them in the NET rankings played significantly weaker schedules. Well that perception was reality in those early season games. And yes the schedule got much better by December. But anyway I think we all know that the NET is flawed. Perception shouldn't play into that ranking at all. Something about it sure doesn't like us though. Go Hoosiers!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue3542 Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, Indy1987 said: Well that perception was reality in those early season games. And yes the schedule got much better by December. But anyway I think we all know that the NET is flawed. Perception shouldn't play into that ranking at all. Something about it sure doesn't like us though. Go Hoosiers!!! At this point, it makes absolutely zero sense. Minnesota, two games under .500, who we swept this season, is a full 17 spots ahead of us in the NET at 43. They have the same number of road wins, but one fewer neutral site win. It seems like if IU had lost a few games by fewer than 10 points, we'd be in the 20's-30's right now. That seems like it's the only thing that could logically be affecting the ranking that negatively. Purdue, currently fighting to make the NIT at one game above .500, is a full 27 spots ahead at 33. I really hope the committee looks at the team sheets and realizes the NET is screwed up this year. IU's resume is a lot better than their NET ranking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 On the way home from work and listening to CBS radio they had Jerry Palm on there. They asked him about the NET and he said the net is not used to pick the teams. What they use the net for is to look at individual teams schedule and not to see if a team deserves a bid. e said there were a couple of teams with a net in the 30's last year that were left out and a team in the 70's that was in the tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 12 hours ago, IU Scott said: On the way home from work and listening to CBS radio they had Jerry Palm on there. They asked him about the NET and he said the net is not used to pick the teams. What they use the net for is to look at individual teams schedule and not to see if a team deserves a bid. e said there were a couple of teams with a net in the 30's last year that were left out and a team in the 70's that was in the tournament. Nice to hear, but it doesn't make me feel any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, rico said: Nice to hear, but it doesn't make me feel any better. It made me feel better and if we beat Neb I think we are in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy1987 Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Just checked the Net this morning not expecting any movement. Well we moved up to #59. The Net never ceases to amaze. Days off seem to be the only way we gain in that thing. Oh and Minnesota moved down a spot. Go Hoosiers!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 15 hours ago, IU Scott said: On the way home from work and listening to CBS radio they had Jerry Palm on there. They asked him about the NET and he said the net is not used to pick the teams. What they use the net for is to look at individual teams schedule and not to see if a team deserves a bid. e said there were a couple of teams with a net in the 30's last year that were left out and a team in the 70's that was in the tournament. Then why even have that stupid thing is it's not going to be accurate or usable. NCAA at it's best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, IowaHoosierFan said: Then why even have that stupid thing is it's not going to be accurate or usable. NCAA at it's best They use it to see what kind of schedule you play and uses your opponent NET as a barometer on who you played. When looking at IU they are not going to say since you have a NET of 59 you are not going to get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 22 minutes ago, IU Scott said: They use it to see what kind of schedule you play and uses your opponent NET as a barometer on who you played. When looking at IU they are not going to say since you have a NET of 59 you are not going to get in. Scott embracing analytics/metrics?!?! What next? @dbmhoosier sporting an "I ❤️ Archie" t-shirt"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Scott embracing analytics/metrics?!?! What next? @dbmhoosier sporting an "I ❤️ Archie" t-shirt"? Not embracing it at all because I rather use the eye test but explaining how they use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Not embracing it at all because I rather use the eye test but explaining how they use it. But beauty is in the eye (test) of the beholder... Hence the need for analytics... Come on man...I won't tell the Knightstown school marm and the optometrist you're cheating on them...😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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