Proud2BAHoosier Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 4 hours ago, rico said: Evansville loses at Valpo. The Aces move up 6 spots while the Crusaders fall 3. That is so sad for the Purple Aces. What started out as a good season (beating pUKe at Rupp), the wheels came off after the McCarty fiasco, and they never recovered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiHoosier Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 I think we are still in the 50s in terms of NET because of the MOV. For the most part, we have lost big on the road and close at home in conference play which hinders our ability to climb the NET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, ChiHoosier said: I think we are still in the 50s in terms of NET because of the MOV. For the most part, we have lost big on the road and close at home in conference play which hinders our ability to climb the NET Which begs the question. As team beats Kansas by 1 and Incarnate Word by 35. Which should influence the NET more. Unfortunately, the NET answers that question incorrectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiHoosier Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 11 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Which begs the question. As team beats Kansas by 1 and Incarnate Word by 35. Which should influence the NET more. Unfortunately, the NET answers that question incorrectly. I forgot to add in that MOV is capped at 10. However, in this scenario, this team would not rise by more than 1-2 spots because of their non-quality win and would not fall by more than 1 spot due to the quality of the loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 5 hours ago, ChiHoosier said: I forgot to add in that MOV is capped at 10. However, in this scenario, this team would not rise by more than 1-2 spots because of their non-quality win and would not fall by more than 1 spot due to the quality of the loss. Why is Minnesota ahead of us in the NET? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 The fact they capped the scoring margin to begin tells me they anticipated scoring margin having a significant effect on ranking. Would be interesting to see a comparison of NET as is vs. NET with no cap and NET with no scoring margins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lostin76 Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 48 minutes ago, rico said: Why is Minnesota ahead of us in the NET? Wait, what? We beat them twice (once in their house) and have a better record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, Lostin76 said: Wait, what? We beat them twice (once in their house) and have a better record. #45 my friend... https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lostin76 Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, rico said: #45 my friend... https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings That's insane. As I'm looking at these rankings there is a lot of things that do not make sense. Purdue is also ranked way above us with a worse record - though they did beat us twice. But, damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, Lostin76 said: That's insane. As I'm looking at these rankings there is a lot of things that do not make sense. Purdue is also ranked way above us with a worse record - though they did beat us twice. But, damn. Welcome to the club of "WTF!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 Alabama is a head scratcher too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lostin76 Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 minute ago, mrflynn03 said: Alabama is a head scratcher too. Definitely. And W. Virginia and Texas Tech. This is bonkers and now I know why there's a thread complaining about it. I wish I didn't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 NET ...... Not Ever True. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Lostin76 said: Definitely. And W. Virginia and Texas Tech. This is bonkers and now I know why there's a thread complaining about it. I wish I didn't know. Better check out Stanford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy1987 Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 Creeped up another spot today to #51. And of course Minnesota climbs a spot as well. Haha Go Hoosiers!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 Richmond wins at then #86 Duquesne and jumps from 44 to 37. Duquesne falls from 86 to 96. As I recall, when IU won at then 40 something MN, we barely moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said: Richmond wins at then #86 Duquesne and jumps from 44 to 37. Duquesne falls from 86 to 96. As I recall, when IU won at then 40 something MN, we barely moved. It is pretty simple to figure out...the A-10 is a tougher conference so therefore point values are doubled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 Team A: Quad 1 0-7, quad 2 9-4, Quad 3 4-3, Quad 4 3-0. Home losses to Net #41, #114, #147 and #148 Team B: Quad 1 5-9, quad 2 4-2, quad 3 4-0 quad 4 6-0 Home losses to Net 18, 32 and 41. No losses below 41. Team A is Alabama NET 50, BPI 63, POM 55, SAG 63 Team B is IU NET 51, BPI 39, POM 35, SAG 29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyHoosier Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 18 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said: Team A: Quad 1 0-7, quad 2 9-4, Quad 3 4-3, Quad 4 3-0. Home losses to Net #41, #114, #147 and #148 Team B: Quad 1 5-9, quad 2 4-2, quad 3 4-0 quad 4 6-0 Home losses to Net 18, 32 and 41. No losses below 41. Team A is Alabama NET 50, BPI 63, POM 55, SAG 63 Team B is IU NET 51, BPI 39, POM 35, SAG 29 Alabama is 4-7 on the road Indiana is 2-8 on the road Unfortunately the NET seems to overvalue road wins which is likely the main reason for the discrepancies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, CincyHoosier said: Alabama is 4-7 on the road Indiana is 2-8 on the road Unfortunately the NET seems to overvalue road wins which is likely the main reason for the discrepancies. One of their road wins is at #324 Samford. Others are #86 Ole Miss, #92 GA, and #148 Vandy. They are getting rewarded for having bad teams in the SEC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, CincyHoosier said: Alabama is 4-7 on the road Indiana is 2-8 on the road Unfortunately the NET seems to overvalue road wins which is likely the main reason for the discrepancies. The NET is one GIANT discrepancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWB Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 Question: If the NET doesn't really get calculated until the end of the season, does IU's NET go up significantly, given FSU ranking, us beating 5 top 25 teams, etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 We dropped to 60 this morning in the NET and Minnesota moved up to 43. Guess i can't blame us for falling but i don't understand the NET and how wins/losses affect the ranking. I mean Rutgers is at 32 ranked higher than Iowa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy1987 Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 15 minutes ago, IowaHoosierFan said: We dropped to 60 this morning in the NET and Minnesota moved up to 43. Guess i can't blame us for falling but i don't understand the NET and how wins/losses affect the ranking. I mean Rutgers is at 32 ranked higher than Iowa I think we dropped to #60 in Sunday's Net actually. But yea you're not alone in not understanding that thing. Just be glad it's not the only thing the committee looks at. Go Hoosiers!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 I think if we win the BTT our NET would still go down LOL! this thing is a crock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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