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8 minutes ago, dgambill said:

Also said it should be strongly considered for use as a prophylaxis. This is good news because in many places in the world the current vaccines are just not able to be viably distributed. Considering the temps it has to be stored and shipped and delivered it makes it almost impossible in some countries except in the most urban areas. That’s another reason I’ve been watching the novavax vaccine closely. It doesn’t need to frozen and can be kept at refrigerated temps. Overall these trials offer hope to many that acceptable treatments outside of vaccines (where those may not be available) can have positive outcomes. 
 

Whatever the case I hope we can soon end the horse jokes and unfortunate vitriol by some to denounce anything but the vaccine. This is good news for the world…and certainly for other future therapeutics that might come along later.

The more tools available to treat/prevent this virus the better. 

9 hours ago, Inequality said:

I’m not sure what is considered ‘breakthrough’ infection. 2 family members both among the first age groups to be vaccinated had a diagnosis of Covid in July.

As for Ivermectin, a lady in town was among the first hospitalized with COVID-19 in this area. Was on vent for a month and in hospital for 45 days. Family was told 2% chance of recovery. Ivermectin, Zink regimen and yes Hydroxychloroquine  was given to her. This was all before the jab was introduced. She’s been fine for over a year now.

Family members 88yo grandpa passed away recently. Death certificate says COVID-19 which is a complete lie. Sickening. 

Friend in NC lost spouse in an accident. Death certificate says COVID-19. He called and asked for it to be changed and was asked to leave it in exchange for compensation. He took the check straight to a lawyer. Last I heard an out of court settlement was the offer. Sickening.

I hate this thread. I’m more than disgusted with all things Covid and when I hear the name Fauci I want to vomit.

This country is a terrible place for children right now and that Ps me off the most.

End of rant. Thanks for the ear.

I'm with you on everything you said. I have never trusted the covid numbers, especially when it comes to the death numbers/ percentages. No one has tried to account for the people who had covid and didn't know it or those who had it and were never tested. Early on, testing was difficult to get and all of those people were never counted. Including the entire population of people who have had covid would drastically change the percentages. 

The most concerning thing about the current vaccines is that the drug companies were given immunity from inability. They were also probably given some assurance that we would not pursue other alternatives. That's a red flag to me. Once again, I'm not anti vaccine. My wife has received it and I support her completely in making her decision. I am, however anti mandate. 

Personally, I don't like being manipulated by misinformation or misleading statistics. Nor do I like scare or public shaming tactics designed to control and drive behavior. Just be honest with me, give me accurate information and I will make the choice that I believe is best for me.

I am not dismissing the seriousness of covid and for a large portion of the population the vaccine may be the best option currently available. I am not vaccinated and am still gathering information to determine the risk/ benefit for me. At this point, my level of confidence that I am getting that information from "official" sources is pretty low.

1 hour ago, HoosierFaithful said:

It's funny to me that there is such resistance to a proven, wildly successful vaccine but we seem really eager to try unproven, wildly off-label, sometimes proven dangerous methods instead.  

Ivermectin is not an unproven or dangerous drug. It's been in use to treat a number of viral infections for over forty years with very minimal side effects. The guy who discovered it received the Nobel award for it. What I would like to see, based on what I have learned, is a proper srudy done to determine it's effectiveness. That we seem unwilling to do that causes me to question motivations. I'm not anti vaccine. I am pro alternatives, but the powers that be don't seem interested in looking for any. Also important to note is that Imervectin is off patent, so there is not a lot of money to be made from producing it. Bret Weinstein's Darkhorse podcast #80 talks at length about it starting at about the 28:20 minute mark.

21 minutes ago, Reacher said:

India having good success with Ivermectin.

https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/lucknow/uttar-pradesh-government-says-ivermectin-helped-to-keep-deaths-low-7311786/

Are we too beholden to Pfizer to study and try this here?

There is good information about this treatment on Bret Weinstein as Darkhorse podcast #87. It's long and covers a lot surrounding covid. He does these with his wife Heather Heying. They are both evolutionary biologists. He claims there is evidence that I reject in can be used to prevent infection and not just as a treatment after the fact. He suggests that part of the problem getting it approved is that the emergency use of the current vaccines was conditional on no other treatment being available.

1 hour ago, Billingsley99 said:

At each of the 3 memorials that we have visited each of us picked 1 name, specifically prayed for that person's family . When we would get home we would research them and share their story with each other. 

So thankful that we have been blessed to be able to take our kids to those places and so many other historical locations. For me personally my 3 most surreal places I have been are

1. Shanksville Memorial 

2. Tomb of the unknown at Arlington 

3. Gettysburg 

Thank you to all that serve to make our country great.

Let me add the memorial at Oklahoma City. Those chairs on the hillside representing where the victims died, especially the small chairs for the children, was very moving. The fact that it was a domestic attack only made it worse.

32 minutes ago, IUFLA said:

Maybe it was the fact I've had a little health issue over the last week, but now I'm reading that the COVID vaccine mandate for government workers does not include a testing option...

So, either do it or be fired...incredible...

 

Incredibly sad.

10 hours ago, FKIM01 said:

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a48031/the-falling-man-tom-junod/

 

Thanks for the link. A lot more in that article than I remembered from the documentary. As an amateur photographer, it was interesting from that point of view also.

1 hour ago, mrflynn03 said:

I was in algebra class 16 yrs old.  The teacher wheeled in a TV.  

I remember telling my classmates we are about to go to war. I'm still conflicted.  A part of me wishes I signed up to shoot some of them bastards. 

My wife and I and her sister and husband were supposed to go to the Noblesville amphitheater that night to see Jimmy Buffet. I remember my wife and her sister discussing whether or not the show would still be on. I told her no way would anyone want to go to a concert that night. Of course it was cancelled. I think the gravity of what happened took a while to sink in for some people.

9 minutes ago, jv1972iu said:

Google the poem "For The Falling Man" by Annie Farnsworth.

I watched a documentary about the "falling man" a few years ago. I think he was finally identified as as member of the wait staff at the Windows on the World restaurant. Heartbreaking story.

21 minutes ago, Seeking6 said:

Won't ever forget this day. Besides the personal stories I'm sure we all have and people we knew.  One of the things I don't think I'll ever forget here in Indy at least....the sky was as blue as I've ever seen. Almost cobalt like. It's weird the stuff you remember on days like that and 20 years later I can still remember my step by step actions from the entire day. 

That blue sky and not a plane to be seen.

I often think how awful it is to go to work on a normal day and not to come home. The book "102 Minutes" is the best account of that day I have read. It's chilling in the descriptions of the people trapped in the towers and those who worked their way down to get out. The lack of cooperation between the police and fire department as well as the design issues is discussed. A very sad day all the way around.

4 minutes ago, Artesian_86 said:

Just listened to the post game show with Fish and Coach was very disappointed and dejected. He said he never expecting the team including Penix to play that way. Said they prepared well and Penix looked good all preseason. He also mentioned play calling from his coaches….He also took blame for the outcome as the head coach. 

Agree with coach. Didn't see this coming at all. This didn't look like a team, for all the off season talk, that believed they could compete and win today. How they respond will tell us everything about this team. I still believe the talent is there to compete and win our share of games. This can't feel good to the players and their pride should rise to the top next week.

I spent a little time on an Iowa board a few days ago. They are very confident that they will win. Not much respect for anyone other than Penix. They completely dismiss our secondary and think that theirs will negate Penix. We need to make a statement with game. Do that and everyone will start to pay attention.

There is a great two part interview with Miller at https://doctorindy.com/audio-downloads/. He has been around so long that he feels like family and it feels as bad to lose him. The interview covers racing, his time at the Indystar covering the local sports teams, as well as stories about Slick Leonard and Bob Knight. If you remember any of the old Indianapolis Star / News reporters you'll probably enjoy the interview. If you only knew of Robin from racing, you'll be surprised by the number of local sports people who were in his circle. I knew this was coming, but it hurts just the same.

3 hours ago, IUFLA said:

Wonder how many on the red side had previously had COVID-19, or have a partial vaccination?

I have a grandson in the Navy stationed in San Diego. He hates everything about California and can't wait until he is reassigned elsewhere. The covid restrictions have taken away what little free time benefits he might have had. The real shame to me is what we have taken away from young people in the name of protecting old people. I will gladly take the risk to let them enjoy their youth.

21 minutes ago, Leathernecks said:

It is a recent change. Long story short, but a couple years ago I was the victim of a false accusation, and that was recently used against me. It was an accusation that was completely made up, so with that being used against me, I really felt unsafe staying there.

Unfortunately my school board is corrupt, so everything was done under the table, so nothing was on record and they would never admit to the reason. Obviously would have taken them to court if it was on the record.

I was a teacher many, many years ago. Had a student make an accusation, eight grade, against me. Back then, 1971, the teachers word meant something. I left the profession after three years, but the possible implications of that still bother me. Today they are almost impossible to defend against. I hope you are doing well.

Could be the snowball effect. The more really good players you get, the more you are likely to get. We are getting serious attention from kids who would have simply laughed at us not too long ago. I like it.

29 minutes ago, BeenShermin said:

The previous 3 times UNC managed to land an elite big from the Hoosier State, it resulted in championships: Montross, May, Zeller.

On the plus side it really only seems to happen about once per decade.  So you probably don't need to worry about UNC breaching the state borders until the 2030's.

 

The results remain to be seen.

42 minutes ago, Indykev said:

No, I have 5 autograph's in my life time. Tiger Woods on a 97' Masters flag, Jack Nicklaus on a 2000 US Open flag from Pebble Beach, his last US Open. A painting of Arnold Palmer, Nicklaus and Ben Hogan signed by all 3, which was given to me by Arnold, who my girlfriend at the time was his secretary.

I'm impressed! Talk about a high roller. That's golf royalty.

What is going on lately. It feels like so many have been lost. With each one it always feels like something that mattered to me has been lost and the community is a little less. RIP.

On 1/25/2021 at 11:30 AM, NotIThatLives said:

That's pretty dismissive of the fact that roughly 60% of the worlds cobalt is coming from a very unstable Congo.  

I'm not sure but I hope these companies are helping these countries more than hurting.  

Do they ever? Exploration for profit seems to be a staple of the corporate playbook.

The safety improvements in the cars have been phenomenal since those days. 1964 and 1973 were the two worst worst races I remember. The most exciting thing I have seen at the speedway in recent years was watching the Moto-GP bikes go through the turns at north end of the road course. They seemed to defy the laws of physics. They reached 210 mph at the end of the front straight, just sitting on a two wheeled rocket ship. Who needs seatbelts.

9 hours ago, FKIM01 said:

Apparently, the author is Art Garner.   Thanks for the recommendation. I've asked the stat.e digital library association to consider adding it.

You are correct. The authors name is Art and not Alan. At my age, I should not rely solely on memory for important details. The author's level of research and detail was really impressive to me. He also did a great job of handing the fallout and investigation after the accident. One other thing that stood out for was what a different breed of human being race car drivers are.

"Black Noon" by Alan Garner is an excellent book about the 1964 Indianapolis 500. It details the events leading up to the race in which Eddie Sachs and Dave McDonald were killed. The insights into the mechanical and design problems reveal a lot about the days when just about anyone could build and enter a car. This is a must read for anyone who is a 500 junkie.

On 5/25/2021 at 4:14 PM, FKIM01 said:

Good question, but I think that was just as political as another portion of the population refusing the vaccine.  From day one, the blame for this pandemic should have been 100% on the Chinese.  I have some pretty strong opinions about why so many refused to put the blame where it belonged.

How on earth can you otherwise reconcile a government prohibiting travel between provinces but allowing travel internationally?  Make no mistake here...(1) The Chinese were deliberately testing gain of function in Wuhan, (2) This virus (probably unintentionally) escaped the lab in the fall of 2019 when several lab workers got sick and (3) once Chinese officials realized the horse was out of the barn, they deliberately made travel policies that (a) reduced the spread inside of China and (b) increased the spread outside of China.

...and with that evil empire, you can also bet they are working on viruses that the Chinese themselves are resistant or even immune to, but would be disastrous for other global populations.  Rest assured that if they can figure that out, they will do it.  The Chinese government is not the only evil empire on the globe, but I'd venture they are the most technologically advanced.  What we witnessed the past 18 months is a trial run at biological warfare.  May have not started out that way, but I guarantee once it was loose, the Chinese government decided to see how it might work out.

You won't convince me that didn't happen.

They also were supplying the world with PPE's. They created a problem that they then sold products to protect people from. They are also leading the way with AI in facial recognition and have openly stated their intent to be technologically superior by the end of the decade. Anyone not concerned about the Chinese is simply burying their head in the sand.