4 hours ago, BGleas said:

Meh. Some of the recent UNC teams, Nova teams, 2012 UK and the Florida teams could play with any of those teams. 

Lots of talent, no doubt. The '81 IU team was probably closer to today's teams in terms of how it was put together. Great athleticism and one of the best point guards of all time.

52 minutes ago, 5fouls said:

When I first got interested in Indy car racing, I was a fan of Big Al and Bobby Unser.  I never liked Little Al, and Bobby became less likeable to me as I got older, but I always liked Big Al.

The first 500 I went to was when Al  won his first race. Went back the next year and the same thing happened. He was one of my favorites for sure. I got a lot of insight into the Unser family dynamic when I recently read the Al Unser, Jr book. Some of it I would probably rather not known. But it reminded me that even legends and heroes are really just human beings like the rest of us. It is a sad day as a generation of drivers pass away one by on.

4 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said:

Purdue’s #1 ranking lasts 4 days on Harper’s half court shot 

What will happen to all of those undefeated season t-shirts?

5 minutes ago, Seeking6 said:

You folks have fun in here tonight. Trying a new approach for this one. Going out for some holiday cheer and watch with others. If you hear something going on around Range Line and Main at 707pm it's because TJD was called for his 2nd BS foul and the entire game was changed......just like it always does in Madison. Go Hoosiers!

Sounds like my neck of the woods. I'll listen for sirens and watch for "breaking news" on the TV.

22 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said:

Just fabulous.  He really loves losing and that pack line.

I liked Franklin, and Durham too for that matter, but at this point I'll take MK and PS and not look back.

1 hour ago, Hoosierfan1901 said:

He committed to IU a few years ago, then decommited too, after that:

Committed to UNC

Decommitted from UNC

Committed to PSU 

then Decommitted from PSU 

and then went back to UNC

I know these are kids and it's a huge decision and immaturity plays a part, but at some point make a decision and take responsibility for it and commit to something for the long term.

Our developing three point game is going to be key the rest of the way. Getting Leal comfortable would help our depth tremendously. If we can get a decent start and defend from the beginning like we are ten points behind, I think we can come out of there with a win.

36 minutes ago, mrflynn03 said:

Anyone else's wife drive like she's trying to hit every pothole and obstacle on the road?  I've have smoother rides on mechanical bulls. Geez. 

I have an impatient wife. She will honk the horn at a moments notice. I keep telling her that she is going to get shot doing that. She also thinks she is channeling Mario Andretti when she drives, hard on the accelerator and hard on the brakes. I've given up on trying to change her.

On 8/29/2021 at 2:29 AM, FKIM01 said:

Gonna throw in a throwback motorcycle for fun...just got my 1986 Nighhawk S back from a 5 year restoration project.  The S was only made three years....1984, 84 & 86.  I was a poor college student at the time, but later after I was married, I found a 10-year-old trainwreck S in the classifieds and bought it.  Literally had to push it down a hill, jump on it and kick it into first to start it.  Fast forward 25 years to today...I'm in love.

Fast, beautiful and ahead of it's time...

Last pic is the lead resto guy.  I told him today I thought one of us would die before this got completed, but man...it was worth the wait.

Beautiful bike. I rode for several years. My first was a Harley Davidson single cylinder 350. 1970. Evil motorcycle. I moved up to a 1972 Honda CB 750 Four. Loved that motorcycle and sold it to finance graduate school. My last bike was a 1985 Honda Shadow 500. That was probably my favorite. It was the perfect combination of power and agility for me. I've toyed with getting another bike for years but my wife says that I'm to irresponsible for motorcycles. I would have loved to ride a Blackbird just one time. Enjoy that beautiful bike.

7 minutes ago, HoosierFaithful said:

Moderator emeritus, we’ll allow it. 

I can't imagine how difficult that job is but I truly appreciate the way all of you do it. I have refrained from posting things just because I don't want to be "that guy".

On a side note, as tiring as it can be, I've developed great respect for those I've interacted with in this thread whether I agree with their position or not. Thank you.

2 hours ago, Lostin76 said:

Man, the Twitter “gotcha” BS from both sides is really wearing me down. Every new story is just an endless cycle of outrage and “I Told You Sos.” I’m about over it myself. 

I do really use Twitter for good information, but I need to add some more muted topics. 

I was on Twitter for about three years mostly just to follow people who I respected. I tried to block everything else, but eventually the replies and arguments seeped into those threads. I realized that I was reading stuff and getting mad about it. At that point my mental health became more important than anything I was getting from Twitter. So I deleted my account. I have a Masters Degree in counseling (from IU no less) so I should have been able to handle rationally whatever was being said but the constant onslaught of negatively was getting to me. Maybe I should ask for my money back. But the larger point is if it did that to me, what is it doing to people who are less self aware and lack the tools to see what is happening? I admire those who can handle social media and not get sucked into the beast.

7 minutes ago, dgambill said:

This sort of stuff shouldn't be hidden...it should be out there in every media channel all over the world...however you have to dig and dig and dig to find the truth of how people are being treated. I'll leave this little quote....I'm sure most are well aware of who Dietrich Bonhoeffer was and the evil of his time....

“Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless.
Not to speak is to speak.
Not to act is to act.”

We tread on very very thin ice. We are justifying destroying liberty and freedom in the name of fear. We have a lot of religious and philosophical quotes on fear and evil...but even if you aren't well versed in those I bet just about everyone here knows this one... Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." - Master Yoda. 

We've seen what fear in the hearts of man has led to in the past. Some of our worst atrocities were born out of fear. I pray that we do not let fear build to such that it leads to hatred in our society...hatred between vaxxed and unvaxxed and left and right etc etc....because it will just lead to suffering. No matter what side of the issue or aisle we reside...we can not let our fears cause us to hate one another...to turn us neighbor against neighbor and brother against brother. Men's hearts are just as capable today as 80 years ago to do unspeakable evil...all in the name of fear.

 

I agree that we need to rediscover tolerance and the ability to see things from someone else's point of view. Social media has poured gasoline on the fire. The over the top hysterics that take place on those platforms are unbelievable. I quit Twitter altogether because of it. There is no reason to divide people into 'us and them' groups over differences of opinion. We need to see and hear ALL sides of an argument in order to make informed decisions. The degree of censorship that has been taking place on all of the information platforms is, to me, disturbing. It's not even what is being reported that bothers me. It's what is being left out.

16 hours ago, Lostin76 said:

I just looked him up and he’s still alive. Dude helped define my (admittedly warped) childhood. 

If he is alive, he isn't doing the act anymore. His son, however, is doing appearances as Sammy Terry. I see him on the tube every year around Halloween.

11 hours ago, Indykev said:

You may give up on all college sports if thats your thinking. Some good kids sometimes just dont fit.

I don't really mind kids transferring. A lot of good reasons to do that. I'm talking about kids on our team entering the portal, not finding anything better, and then wanting to return to the team. Kind of like the Sampson James situation. If a kid is not all in, I don't think I want him on the team.

On 11/29/2021 at 6:21 PM, Hoosier82 said:

I’m not counting any of these guys as gone until they sign eslewhere. I don’t blame kids for entering in to see their options. If we make a good OC hire, he’ll lobby hard to keep a couple of these kids

I have mixed feelings about taking back guys who enter the portal. Do you really want guys in the locker room who were shopping for a better deal? Doesn't feel like the level of commitment that you want. Of course, I'm old and view things differently than people do these days.

8 minutes ago, kyhoosier29 said:

My son’s 4th grade team in the NKY Catholic league lost 62-4 last Sun. 😬 They stopped the scoreboard at 40, and only post it as a 25 point win, but it was actually 62-4. And that’s without pressing! Most of our team is completely lost on the floor! 

Brutal! Hope the kids weren't completely demoralized.

20 minutes ago, dgambill said:

Viral history seems to suggest that virus's mutate quite a bit (the RNA replication process is typically full of errors thus leading to many millions of slight mutations) so it will be very common just like the flu virus we will see this change over time. Now through natural selection those mutations that lead to more transmissibility are what is typically favored and typically take hold and become the more dominant strain. Now, this would mean that those changes that could cause the virus to spread more easily (perhaps live longer on surfaces or evade detection in the immune system etc etc) would have a higher chance to replace the older strain. However, that isn't the only way it can change....it can become more resistant, virulent, and deadly but if it is more deadly and makes people sicker it would naturally run into the problem of limiting it's ability to spread. Kill or sicken your host too quickly and efficiently then that mutation dies along with those few that attain it. If someone becomes so sick or immobilized by a stronger/more deadly virus those people are far less likely to go around spreading it and for it to take hold in the public and muscle out the other more common strains. It is far more likely and what we typically see the strains that become highly transmissible be the ones that spread more rapidly and become the norm we deal with. A strain that might go undetected or have high rates of asymptomatic hosts would lend itself very well to pervading it's way through society.

This doesn't mean those types aren't deadly....far be it...after all the simple flu virus was killing tens of thousands of people a year. Even this new strain of Covid that has limited symptoms for most people could still become very deadly perhaps to sick and at risk individuals if it is able to evade our antibody defenses through these vaccines and our protective PPE measures. Sometimes it isn't how strong the virus is that makes it deadly...it's just the fact that the virus can get into more people more easily and undetected until it finds a very weak host that it overwhelms. So while most of the studying I've done on how virus's typically react suggests that over time this virus will change many many times up and down the severity spectrum, it is more likely then not for the more "successful" strains of the virus skew to being more transmissible and less virulent (lethal) if it is to survive long term (which is what I would expect). So I'd say less severe symptoms and less virulent virus might be what we continue to see it doesn't mean it can't be deadly to very weak immune hosts, so we still have to be vigilant in protecting them. It also doesn't mean that later on a potentially very deadly/strong strain could come along....however given our vigilence and increased understanding of the virus and how to treat it now...we should be much more capable of isolating, containing, and treating a more virulent/lethal strain.

I would like to see this message from doctors and elected officials because it is virus behavior 101. Killing the host at a high enough rate and the virus itself dies. The milder the symptoms, the greater the opportunity to spread. Honest messaging is always preferable to fear mongering. As you said, this doesn't mean that it is not dangerous to some at risk or compromised people. It just means that the majority can continue to live their lives in a relatively normal manner.

On 11/30/2021 at 4:59 PM, Lostin76 said:

Really worry about kids these days. I feel like they are getting it from all sides and they live in a country that gets more fractured by the day.

Agree. We don't seem to be the nurturing society that we once were. My son-in-law was stabbed in his apartment parking lot over a parking spot. My wife and I spent the spring and summer caring for four grandchildren. Fist fights of the past have turned into shootings. Kids are growing up with that as their reality and their solution when something doesn't go the way they want. I don't have any solutions and am mostly just sad for everyone involved.

2 hours ago, dgambill said:

https://www.history.com/news/1918-flu-pandemic-never-ended

Not trying to equate the two or anything...but the point being...this virus will likely be with us forever. No amount of vaccination has ended the flu...and it won't end this. Does that mean we shouldn't vaccinate and save as many lives as possible...of course not..but at what point do we accept Covid is here....will be here....will always kill people just like the flu virus was killing 60-80 thousand people a year and that is sad but that is just nature. The old, sick, infirmed, and even tragic young can and will die in the future, but at what point do we put it in perspective that we will just live side by side with this virus and can't let it control our futures. I don't know what WINNING looks like...I don't know what LOSING looks like because it looks different to whomever you ask. Covid is kinda like the war on terror. Sure I'm thankful to be protected, and willing to even be inconvenienced on occassion but we have to realize not everyone is and should be expected to land on the same spot of the spectrum when it comes to that and that no measures will ever end this "war". It's simply the price of being human. Our life is only but a vapor...and then it is gone. Let's not miss out on what is special about life in seeking to protect it or hold it too tightly less it slip through our fingers and we miss it.

Exactly my position. I had a conversation with my doctor about " quality of life versus quantity " and I told him that I come down on the quality side every time. It's why I was unwilling to sacrifice time with my grandchildren to protect myself from something that I thought I was overwhelmingly likely to survive. Once again, my personal decision and not a recommendation to others. Someone once said, not sure who, that we live life at our own risk. That's all I want to do.

I know it's an old school practice but I'm not sure that running is much of a deterrent to making turnovers during a game. The film study that is done probably does more good. I like what CMW is coming and as the guys get more comfortable with each other the turnovers will decrease. I can still see some indecisiveness on passes from time to time. Some guys, especially the newer ones, are doing more thinking than reacting. That, I believe, will improve over time as long as they stay engaged in the process.

1 hour ago, Billingsley99 said:

https://www.newsbreakapp.com/n/0d8aKspv?s=a99&pd=08vvqoSG&lang=en_US

Guy goes to Covid party to get natural immunity and dies from it

I elected to not get vaccinated because I believed in my circumstances that I would be ok. Caught it from my wife who was vaccinated. We thought she just had a cold and so I didn't really try to stay away from her. It worked out fine for me and the symptoms were relatively mild and short in duration. But, I would never seek it out and try to get infected. That, and I'm sorry he died as a result, is some kind of special stupid.

Apparently every move made during the off season was wrong. Nothing really worked this year and I still think there were major problems in the locker room. Probably not just among the players.

On 11/23/2021 at 8:32 PM, Stlboiler23 said:

I could see a loss here. You guys were clearly better last time we played at Ross-Ade and it went to 2OT. Throw everything out the window in a rivalry game. 

You clearly started drinking way early.

1 hour ago, jv1972iu said:

Welcome the new covid variant...omicron.  😝  Seems there's no end to this crap!

Virus doing virus things.