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50 minutes ago, btownqb said:

I think there's a difference between a "teams best player is a big guy" and "playing through the post".... 

I don't think Kentucky played through the post, much at all, that season. JMO

This is a very important distinction in the convo. 

Just mearly having your best player be a big doesn't make your team/offense post-dominant or inside-out. 

Cody Zeller was the best player on the 2011-13 teams, I don't think anyone would say those teams were post-dominant or inside-out. 

Just now, KoB2011 said:

I wouldn't call guards getting into the paint off of dribble penetration inside out personally. 

Agree. Was just trying to find some way to make it make sense. 

1 minute ago, IU_Realist said:

Ok being mean here. Woodson is senile and his brain isn’t working at all.  He is an idiot.

I can’t say anything nice about this comment.  Wow.  

 

To be fair to Mike Woodson, that one line requires quite a bit more context. 

Does he mean through the post, or does he mean with guards and wings getting to the rim, sucking in the defense, etc. 

Paint touches are always going to be important in basketball, just depends on how you get them. 

Unfortunately, I think Woodson means playing through the post. 

🤣🤣

5 minutes ago, JW75 said:

Definitely a stud. How early will he go? Top 3? Watching those games compared to Big 10 games are much more enjoyable, even if they don’t play much defense.

I'm not a huge mock draft guy, but tue few I've seen he's more like mid-to-late teens. 

I'm pretty sure Auburn is like a top 10 defense. 

This Tennessee-Auburn game is great. So depressing watching Dalton Knecht. Dude is an absolute stud. 

2 hours ago, Inequality said:

FAU was nothing before May. He built it from ground up to a respectable team with a great outlook for the program as it stands now. They had only been to the NCAAT once (2002) before Mays arrival.

There is a reason he is in the Ohio St conversation. At only 47 years old, landing at the right spot could set him up for long term success at the highest level.

 

Yeah, absolutely. I'm not against May by any means, I just wish he was a year further along right now and we could see how he did after his current core has broken up. 

But, I would definitely take him right now too. Not #1 on my list, but would be a good hire right now. 

20 minutes ago, NCHoosier32 said:

i would be thrilled with Beard, Pearl, Shrewsberry, or May over Woodson.  i'm assuming Oates isn't realistic, but him too.  i'd love to get any of them next season.  i'd go in that order only because of Beard's age compared to Pearl.  i'm not even a little concerned about Beard.  that said, if people are truly in the know and know he'd never be hired, fine.  if neither of them, i'm still just a little nervous about May because i still say you never know how someone does with the transition to the big stage.  still admit i thought Archie would be great.  others have assured me it is not the same, so i'd be optimistic.  from what i hear i think i might be more confident in Shrews being successful.  definitely put Beard and Pearl on a different level though.  

Agree. My thing with May is, I'm more interested in how he would do next year when some of his core is maybe gone as opposed to what he's doing this year with the same core. 

Of course what he's done at FAU is overall incredibly impressive. But, can he lose some of that core he's had success with for 2 years and still sustain success?

Not saying he needs to get to the Final Four or anything, but can he still be a tournament team, etc., and compete for his conference?

15 minutes ago, Hoosier4Life53 said:

Because I believe him when he says he would like to play 4 out and 1 in, but personal dictates what style you play, and unfortunately, we had no choice this year. We missed on the guys that would have made a difference, and our returning players either didn’t improve or in some cases regressed. No excuses though, because it all falls on the head coach. Next season will be his make or brake year. 

I guess I just don't understand why you believe him that he wants to play 4 out/1 in? Actually, I'm not even sure if he's really even saying that's what he wants any more. 

On the personnel, he hasn't even tried. I understand the guard play isn't great this year, but we easily could have played way more minutes with Mgbako at the 4. 

Last season, especially when Race Thompson was injured, why did we never play minutes with TJD, Kopp, Bates, Galloway, JHS? I'm not sure if we ever played Kopp at the 4 in two years. 

He doesn't even try. 

9 minutes ago, Seeking6 said:

I'm not going to chime in on everything and like I said yesterday or whenever that was...but Galloway isn't going anywhere. I don't know how to make it any more simple. 

Again...love the information you bring. We all know different folks...but TG isn't headed anywhere unless he just decides his time is up. 

Yeah, things are getting crazy and the rumor mill is only going to intensify, unfortunately. 

Most of it is going to be nonsense, even if the end result turns out to happen (hope that made sense). 

2 minutes ago, KoB2011 said:

To be fair, I think that type of criticism cost Joker a third straight MVP, among other political reasons for him not winning it last year.

But to me a neutral fan, I’d take Tatum over all those guys besides Joker. The dude is unbelievable. 

Agree on Joker. He did get some of that criticism for not having a ton of playoff success. 

And agree, he's phenomenal. 

8 minutes ago, Zlinedavid said:

Oooof.....don't remind me.  😂

Gunnery Sergeant Hartman could do many things....playing the post was not one of them.

It kind of worked though. While Crean deserved fault for his roster management that season, you kind of have to be impressed with the coaching job that year. 

Took a team that didn't have a single big/post player in the top 6 in minutes per game to the NCAA Tournament. 

Heck, Hanner Perea had the highest MPG of any big on the roster that season. 

32 minutes ago, Zlinedavid said:

Tom Crean has re-entered the chat

Starting at Center...Colin Hartman!

I don’t typically agree with much that Draymond says, but he's spot-on here. 

Just now, Hoosier987 said:

Yup…you can throw all the recruiting rankings away…when you play an awful system and have bad guard play and do nothing to change or fix this is what you get. This is one of the worst teams we’ve seen the past 50 years outside of sanction years. 

Yeah, this is a historically bad season for IU. Hard to digest and see where the program goes from here without changes. 

I just want IU to hire a real, experienced Power 5 coach. 

Look at the post-Knight history. Outside of a magical 2002 Tournament run under Davis, IU's best on-court seasons have been under Kelvin Sampson and Tom Crean. 

Sampson was just starting to take off at IU, and Tom Crean went to 3 Sweet Sixteens and won 2 Big Titles in a 5 year period. Both had IU ranked in the top 10 at various points. 

Both are no longer at IU for obvious reasons that don't need to be rehashed. 

The point is, let's be a real basketball school and go hire a proven coach. Oates, Beard, Pearl, Bennett, or another Power5 coach that has a semblance of a proven track record and system, and understands how to run a program at this level. 

2 minutes ago, NCHoosier32 said:

other topics:  do most people still think we can lose out and he'll still be back?  i'm not so sure anymore

also:  if he does get another year - who do we think is legit back?  like before he hits the portal, what is our starting 5?

lastly:  people talk about putting too much emphasis on stars when recruiting.  is there anyone on this board who thinks Woodson can go after more off the radar guys with fewer stars and make them into a team the way Purdue or Wisconsin does?

 

1) depends on who is calling the shots. If it's Dolson, then I think if we lose out Woodson is gone. If it's Buckner, then I think he can lose out and still keep his job. 

2) I think if he stays we have a shot with keeping Galloway, Reneau, Cupps, Sparks and McNeely (might be missing someone)

3) I don't think he can take a team of lower recruited guys and win next season. 

5 minutes ago, Basketball Junkie said:

FAU is getting whipped by a Memphis team that SMU ran out of the gym last weekend. Dusty May being outcoached by Penny Hardaway is not a great look for him.

Conference game on the road and they're down 6 with 2 minutes left, and that's with a horrible non-call that just happened that would have put Davis on the foul line.