MSHoosier

9 hours ago, BGleas said:

Really disappointing loss. I expect to lose to PSU but also expected to win this one at home. 

Really disappointed in the poor start to both halves. Defense and turnovers were terrible. 

Thought the big shift came when we cut it to 8  with about 8 minutes left, and Galloway got that steal where he dove for the ball and called timeout. 

In the ensuing exchange, Bates missed the front end of a one and one, they made a layup, we didn't score again and then NW made two free throws on their next possession. 

Instead of Bates cutting it to 6 and IU having all of the moment, it was all of the sudden back to 12 in less than a minute. 

We have got to start making free throws. We're on like year 7 of this crap where we can't make free throws, it's ridiculous. 

I agree, but I think that was also the possession where Trayce went up three times, got fouled on at least two of them, but not foul call until the ball bounced out to Bates, who didn't appear to get touched.

I agree that defensive rebounding, and maybe transition defense, were the biggest problems.  I've said this for years that when you let a team get comfortable in transition, it makes everything easier, and we let them get a little too comfortable. But I've never played or coached above church league,  so I don't know much.

JHS was such a catalyst. He missed a couple of passes, but hit big shots and got some really impressive rebounds. Just a complete played in what, his seventh game.

Agree on Geromino and Banks. I think Banks will get there fairly quickly, however.  The real negative I saw was the number of offensive rebounds we gave up.

17 minutes ago, FKIM01 said:

Yeah, it's hard for an older guy to watch hands and feet at the same time, but I only saw a couple of steps after he caught the ball.

...though I wouldn't call myself an authority on that unless you let me roll it back in slo-mo.

I would call that a travel. As I saw it, he had his left foot down on the ground as the ball touched his hand, he then took one step with his right foot and then another step with his left at the rim. 

3 hours ago, go_iu_bb said:

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/ncaa-council-approves-nit-type-tourney-for-womens-basketball-votes-to-revive-ncaa-run-recruiting-academies/

If the summer stuff helps NIL, I don't see a problem. Go have fun and IU go ahead and schedule Gonzaga, and some other big names

Watching Bama/Texas.  So refreshing to see referees call Bama for pass interference. Living here in the SEC I get to watch them get away with it every week

Ohio State and Illinois look to have the easy schedules to me at first glance.

2 hours ago, Between2Halls said:

Jackson Davis

Thompson

Geronimo

Schifino

Johnson

This!!!!

Was a Purdue fan until I ended going to IU in Fall of 1975. Got to be there at Assembly Hall to welcome the team back from the 1976 National Championship. Needless to say, a fan for life

Someone tell me me with a straight face that Arkansas is being officiated the same way against Duke as they were against Gonzaga. Tell me with a straight face that Duke is being officiated the same way as was Gonzaga. I've seen two over the back calls on Williams for Duke that would have been called against just about anybody else.

There might be a former IU assistant now available for his staff

Look,  I hate Wisconsin as much as the next guy,  but is it time to look at the difference the new ball has made. I don't think any Big Ten team shot better than 30%. Maybe the Big Ten should quietly use the NCAA ball in the league tournament next year.

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I think Iowa got a taste of the type of referee job we have seen lately

Does anyone know why Bates did not play?

2 hours ago, Hoosierfan1901 said:

Looks like we will be playing Michigan next Thursday, I will be there to witness that unfortunately

Plan on seeing my first Big Ten Tournament game ever Thursday against those, those, those ....... jerks

5 minutes ago, Euroclydon said:

Was there any doubt at the end of OT that OSU would set one screen to isolate Race to guard a much quicker player at the top of the key?

OSU has run that same play at the end of games against IU since Holtmann has been there and IU still hasn't figure out what to do to stop it. In fact, just about every B1G team has used it the past few years. Race is a lot of things but he doesn't have the quickness to stay near a smaller, faster shooter and OSU took advantage again.

Not that it should have mattered. IU had two chances late in regulation to win it and both times they took a challenged three instead of just driving to the rim. Not smart. IU has mastered not smart basketball in the past few weeks.

Agree with just about everything, however, X was driving and not getting anything out of it. Don't know why, in the Big Ten, we try to drive to the basket on the road. You are not going to get a call, especially late. I think you can't win on the road without a good pull up, mid-range game, and I don't think anyone out there at the end could get that done. If Woodson learns anything this year i hope it is that.

3 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

I actually thought Woodson did a good job tonight and didn't see any questionable coaching tonight.  He put the players in position to succeed and that is all a coach can do.  Tonight at the end was about player execution and our lack of play makers on the perimeter.

I think I disagree. Instead of doing what ever team knows he going to do (and which osu not only anticipated but defended when they were down 4 with 1:30, go back to the  foul-line screen for Kopp or Stewart and open the lane.

just really tired of seeing fourth and fifth year players making critical errors coming down the stretch

9 hours ago, tdhoosier said:

I enjoy the debate and your perspective as always. Last thing I will say because I'm beginning to beat a dead horse.....

Would we have even been in last night's end of game situation if (for example) we didn't consume 5-6 minutes with a line-up who didn't have a legitimate scoring threat on the floor? I'm not disputing your point about shooting, but just emphasizing that it was not the only reason we lost last night. Wins and losses are a result of many factors, each deserving of their own praises and criticisms. 

And to @Hoosier51's point: 'Talent' is relative, so we need to put it in context. The two 'in context' questions about talent that I can't shake are:

1. Do we have better talent on this year's roster vs. last year's? 

2. Do we have enough talent to make the tournament? 

My answer is 'yes' to both of those questions. So, if we follow the same trajectory as last year and don't make the tournament, we can't solely blame a lack of talent. TJD is on the mid-season Naismith list. Race is one of best two way players in the B1G. One week ago some were lauding XJ as one fo the best point guards in the B1G. Most teams have talent gaps in their roster, but good coaches find ways to cover up these deficiencies. At some point the narrative needs to be that we are underachieving. I don't find joy in saying this, but it does. 

Agree with this. I think Coach Knight would say a missed layup in the first half counts just as much as one missed in the last two minutes. I was thinking about that when Galloway missed an easy layup at the first half buzzer. if he hits that we have two more points heading into our dive at the end.

4 minutes ago, MSHoosier said:

Exactly right.  One team was mentally tougher and it was not us. Worked two good plays to get Stewart a three and he missed both and it was downhill from there.

Sorry, don't mean to sound so negative. Really liked our team coming into today and I think we will play better going forward.

4 minutes ago, Seeking6 said:

From the 48-46 moment one team stepped up and made shots....the other didn't and that was us. Don't like losing to the Illini and this one will sting but they just stepped up and made shots, played better. Almost easier to get over a game like that.

Onto Northwestern which is a must win considering who we have after. Still a tourney team but things can go to the bubble if we don't get 2 of these next 3.

Exactly right.  One team was mentally tougher and it was not us. Worked two good plays to get Stewart a three and he missed both and it was downhill from there.

17 hours ago, HoosierDPU95 said:

They posted a stat at one point in the second half (I think) and it showed Cuse had 31 points off of turnovers compared to our 11. Syracuse didn't expose our defense, we did by not protecting the ball.

I mean this as a serious question because I don't know. Does points off turnovers include every time they scored after getting a turnover? So, even if they get a strip under their own basket and walk it up and get into their offense and score, is it still considered points off a turnover?

Everyone is talking about the turnovers, and rightfully so, but if we don't give up 49 points in the first half, we may win the game anyway. I thought the defense was the worst part of the first half and this is where I was really frustrated. Race gave us everything he had, but I thought he showed me that he can't play perimeter defense. I think we have to get Jordan to the point where he can come in and try to lock down the 4 that plays outside.

Purdue  beats Nova and frankly, if Sasha hit a shot, it would not have been close. Nova hit just about everything until late, and still couldn't the boilers