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1 minute ago, KoB2011 said:

Still think we should lock this?

more importantly, how many are with me in not believing that it is 100% that Woodson will be back.  things could still dictate that right?

do you think Woodson has any realization of how bad things are yet?  

makes me think the rumblings are true.  Taco next?  Reneau?

5 minutes ago, Cbp4IU said:

 

if there was a throwing up emoji i would use it now.  i was really looking forward to him.  pretty distraught about next year at this point.  

i mean crazier things could happen than beating an average MSU team at AH.  then there is no team we could play in the first round that is too talented for us to beat.  

20 minutes ago, 5fouls said:

My point is not against NIL.  My point is that, if I have a chance at a guard who wants to play at IU for a chance to win and to improve as a player versus a guard who is playing for the money, I want the guy who is looking to improve and win.  Problem is that type of guard may be reluctant to come to IU based on how the IU backcourt was utilized this year.   

you know i love old school, but i just don't think that's how it works any more.  the kids who just want to go to IU and just improve and not worried about the money aren't good enough to help us.  

i mean, who doesn't like to have talent on their team?  i'm all for getting studs this off season.  will hopefully make next season bearable.  as i said before, does anyone think Woodson can take a group of Purdue type/level of kids and have a good year?  hell no.  he needs all the talent he can get.  that said, i still contend that it will be tough to bring in many that are as highly regarded as Taco or Ware were.  he has Liam.  gonna need at least one more stud and that's assuming Taco is back.  Reneau?  Galloway?  

4 minutes ago, iuthruandthru said:

I think the mods should lock this thread and move us to the Woody is returning thread.  Too much too track 😂.

Also I really like what someone said in the transfer thread, extra money doesn’t solve the transfer portal.  It’s a ready, aim, shoot approach.  Other schools have just as much money, the coach and structure are the key.

i absolutely don't think we should give up on this thread until the final buzzer sounds.  i don't put it past Woodson to still seal his fate by season's end!

5 minutes ago, IUProfessor said:

Would like to believe it's #3, but yesterday's news seems too definitive for that. I think there would have been other ways to give a vote of confidence that were less definitive if that was the purpose.

but was it?  who was the source?  it's not like Dolson or someone else was quoted as saying Coach Woodson is our guy or whatever.  

28 minutes ago, IowaHoosierFan said:

Woodson will be here until he dies on the court.  He isn't being fired, retiring or any other reason.  He will be our coach until the day he doesn't want to.  Regardless of how the seasons play out.

purgatory  

17 minutes ago, DC2345 said:

I can say this with almost certainty. Woodson doesn't care what the roster looks like after next year. He's all in on winning next year.

honestly i'd just like to win any year.  next year would be a good one.  the big year we had with JHS and TJD together was not quite as much as i would have hoped.  

i will definitely be cheering for the best ending to this season that we can have - question - how low could we finish with a loss to MSU and how high could we finish with the W?  could we finish 12th still?  could we finish 5th still?  

26 minutes ago, 5fouls said:

I will say this.  If IU's recent 4 game losing streak was now sitting as a 7 game losing streak, I think you have to remove 'never' from your statement.  What did the two game winning streak before last night do?  It guaranteed a non-losing record, and at that point the optics of firing him became murkier.  Regardless of what the product looks like on the court (and, honestly, we all have to admit this season has not been pretty), it would be hard to fire a legacy coach who never had a losing season and had been to the tournament 2 out of 3 times.  Frankly, if the fan base wasn't already out of sorts from the latter Crean years and all of Archie's tenure, there would not be so much discontent.

Bottom line is that I don't believe the administration wanted to fire him, and the recent spurt of better play has give them the 'evidence' they were looking for as justification.

All that said, optics or not, I would have been more excited headed into next season with Bruce Pearl as the head coach.  That's MY reality, but it is what it is, and I'm still an IU fan, as I have been for over 50 years.

  

this is kind of where i'm at...i believe that they really want to keep him one more year, but had it gone how i thought and we were at that 7 game losing streak, it would be so so ugly.  i mean look how bad it is even with a couple wins.  had to make an announcement that he'll be back?  just a shame that we have to wait another year to start the rebuild.  so... i hope we can defend our home court vs MSU and win a couple rounds of BTT.  then retain Taco, MR, and Liam.  pray we get stud guards and that Woodson can't mess up that much talent too badly!

4 minutes ago, Reacher said:

Will we make a 3 pointer tonight? 

am i seeing it right that we have attempted 1 and it was Ware?

Just now, Parakeet Jones said:

I heard he was entering the portal after the season. 

i bet he can shoot!  at the same time, we know he isn't selfish.  

1 minute ago, SawatchHoosier said:

Jesus, Galloway, Cupps and Johnson all with 7 combined turnovers.

i didn't even see Jesus in the game!

2 minutes ago, Maedhros said:

Ware's going pro, but retain Malik, Mgbako and Galloway. Recruit the portal to fill around them, and McNeeley, with skills that balance the roster. Go all in on the '25 class over the summer and give us some promise for the future. Realize after a rough season that your coaching will need to adapt to play a winning style of basketball.

There's a path there. I make no assurances it will happen, or even that it's likely, but this what I hope to see. A year from now we'll have our answer, one way or another. I don't see the worth in getting upset about bad things that haven't happened yet. I love Indiana Basketball, but it's just a game. When my team loses it just means I didn't get to enjoy a win, doesn't affect my life any more than that. So I'm going to hope Woodson makes the most of this opportunity right up until I'm proven wrong. 

i mean this is a classic case of me hoping i'm wrong for being pessimistic.  would be so glad to be wrong about Woodson and he leads us to a National Championship.  i just don't believe in dragons or unicorns.  

Just now, KoB2011 said:

How can she really say? Need to see another year to know if this is good ball IMO. 

that almost made me spit my bourbon out when i LOL'd.  careful please.

my wife just said, "wow, this is bad basketball.  what in the world?"

5 minutes ago, Dawg Bawls said:

I hope your a teacher...

actually a reclassed senior.  

2 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said:

Yep completely clueless.

 

 

so so obvious.  it's kind of comical

3 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

As a player Woodson is definitely an IU legend. Did you actually see him play

i always hesitate to engage you, but wasn't he a great scorer on bad teams?  i don't feel like looking it up.  he was about 4 years before my time.  

8 minutes ago, Parakeet Jones said:

Tip moved to 9:12. I hate 9:00 games. 

i generally go to bed at 9pm.  drinking bourbon after 9pm on a school night is no bueno for me.  

please @DC2345 give me hope.  if we lose ugly tonight and lose at home vs MSU then 1st round of BTT, do you honestly believe it won't get ugly enough to still make a change?

i'm not convinced that that announcement really means anything.  things may very well get even uglier.  maybe Woodson gets tired of it all?  there aren't any quotes from IU officials in there.  if he is back, we'd have to have Liam at the 3, Mtaco at the 4, and Reneau at the 5 along with 2 stud guards.  if we are so talented that even Woodson can't mess it up, i could see a good season.  like say, JHS and TJD.  thing is, Taco doesn't want to play the 4 and Reneau doesn't want to play the 5.  so embarrassing that we have to announce that our coach won't be fired in season and that we don't care about winning.  let's just postpone one more year before we even try to be good again.