NCHoosier32

1 hour ago, IU Scott said:

Why are you so obsessed with me, it is truly creepy

you just seem sexy

1 minute ago, SawatchHoosier said:

We need to find that picture!!! 

pretty certain the original poster is still on this board.  just can't remember who it was.  

27 minutes ago, SawatchHoosier said:

We also need to setup a poll to determine who is "The Truest Fan" on HSN. I'm pretty sure that I am but I wanna give everyone a chance.

i feel like Scott has done a pretty good job over the last few years on judging which of us are fans.  i am so bummed i can't find the old picture from this site that said "Rejected by Scott!"

6 minutes ago, MoyeCowbell said:

Guys! What are we doing here???

I came here to read some more beating of the dead Fire Mike Woodson horse and all I'm seeing is an argument about Leal & Gallo's comments. What gives?

honestly though, i do think it's relevant.  not necessarily their comments but Woodson's.  along with numerous obvious issues, his media comments just don't do him any favors.  

Just now, MoyeCowbell said:

Guys! What are we doing here???

I came here to read some more beating of the dead Fire Mike Woodson horse and all I'm seeing is an argument about Leal & Gallo's comments. What gives?

Fire Mike Woodson!  (Today)

2 minutes ago, iuswingman said:

Care to explain what shit they have to put up with?   I bet for the most part treated very well by fans and they are big men on campus.

Any negatives they are dealing with in regards to fans are probably the same shit all players in the past have put up with as well, except now they are getting paid 6 figures.  

yeah.  gotta agree.  i mean my son plays basketball and while not at that level, he gets $ for his college, attire, food, etc.  these guys get a lot more than that.  while it would be rough to read bad stuff about my kid, it kind of goes with playing on a national stage, right?  if they get flack for anything it is on social media and they don't have to read it.  i guess like Barkley always said - i am not a role model?  sorry it comes with the limelight.  

4 minutes ago, Rev_AK said:

I think Coach Woodson is a skilled tactician and makes all the right moves. Everyone just needs to let his system settle in for another year or two.

 

Sincerely, 

Kenny Payne

i was so confused at first.

i don't care personally what the players or coach say about true fans.  i think it is a bad move for them though.  i don't see anything good out of being combative with the fan base especially when A.) you have underperformed and B.) it wasn't like it was brought up.  again, if a reporter asks you about it, 100% absolutely support your coach or if you're the coach, support your players.  i would expect nothing else.  

12 minutes ago, iuswingman said:

What Woodson, Leal and to a lesser extent Galloway don't grasp is that their actions on senior night overshadowed what it was supposed to be about...those that graduated and have played their final game at IU (XJ and Walker).    Instead of the focus being on them and their accomplishments, it was about true fans and not true fans and drawing a line in the sand.

 

 

thought that was an absolutely terrible move by all.  just not the time and place.  no way that can help with the fans either.  just don't bring it up unless asked.  

19 minutes ago, madmax said:

I’m perfectly fine with what the players said last night. Honestly, it’d be damning for Woodson if they didn’t. And I understand their perspective. They are the ones putting in the literal blood, sweat, and tears. 
 

But I reject the “true fan” garbage from Woodson. That’s like my kid saying “if you loved me you wouldn’t discipline me”. No, it’s because I love you that I do discipline you. If I didn’t love you, I wouldn’t.

Same thing goes for fans and the program. If we weren’t “true fans” and didn’t love IUBB, we wouldn’t mind watching it be mismanaged and would just stay quiet. The notion that fandom require silence or support in the face utter mismanagement and poor results is ridiculous.

while i don't have an issue with them standing up for their coach - this screams to me that Woodson has said things to the team like, "I hope you guys are happy.  You are playing so bad that they are saying I should be fired."  if players are interviewed and that question comes up - yes, definitely defend your coach.  otherwise do not bring it up!

as tough as it is... you don't mention it at all if you are Woodson or the players.  it isn't like they were being interviewed and asked about it.  you don't get a dig in about true fans, and i am the coach, etc.  you don't address it.  just not the time or place.  

going back to the plan:

A. Bring in a lot of good players

B. Get a new coach

2 minutes ago, Hoosier4Life53 said:

Is that a kinda “I was wrong?”

i mean look.  when we lose i take the blame.  i mean i'm not out there missing shots and making turnovers, but i take the blame.  

1 minute ago, Hoosier4Life53 said:

Is that a kinda “I was wrong?”

kinda

1 hour ago, 02Hoosier said:

Yeah I was gonna mention them but just wanted to emphasize our narrow margins against the other teams. I mean give credit to the team for winning the games but it’s not like they’re blowing anyone out or playing tough competition.

i'll give credit where credit is due and admit when i'm wrong.  i thought we'd literally lose all 4 of the last 4.  that said, they were not good teams and we didn't exactly look pretty doing it!  

also, what would any coach say when asked about another coach?  "Well, yeah.  Woodson is lazy and runs a terrible system.  I can't believe they haven't fired him already?"

10 hours ago, 13th&Jackson said:

Woodson and the coaching staff did a great job bringing in Ware and developing him into a lottery pick. Just as they helped TJD improve his game. But because of their inability to surround those great post players with enough skilled guards, they’ve failed to maximize having their talent. This is especially true to not have an NCAAT team in Ware’s one year. With an average P6 back court this year, this should have been a single digit NCAAT team, not an NIT team. It was such a missed opportunity with a special player. 

if i were Izzo i would be lobbying for IU to bring Woodson back as well.  i'd much rather that than get a good coach who could actually utilize the talent.  

10 hours ago, IU Scott said:

I am not saying this was a good season but if you were told we would finish 6th before the season what would you have thought. 

i would have been a little disappointed.  not big time, but thought we would be a little better than that.  definitely thought we had the talent to be a top 25 team and make the tourney.  

definitely glad the players aren't against him and giving up.  doesn't change my mind even a little bit that Woodson needs to go now.  love that we fell into the 6th seed in this bad conference and feel like we have the talent to win a couple.  i love watching IU bball, so would actually rather see us play in the NIT than nothing.   

serious question - for the 1 or 2 Woodson backers - are you also big believers in XJ?  i'm just wondering if that is part of the buy in for the few wanting Woodson back?  do you believe X would have been the difference this season? 

1 minute ago, IUskim said:

Those two are. They just announced in their senior speeches they are coming back. 

right.  so we should be fine.  solid lineup.  

all should be good if Leal and Galloway are coming back.  Cupps, Leal, Galloway, Reneau, Sparks

1 minute ago, IUCrazy2 said:

Antagonizing fans with his record is an interesting way to wrap up the season....

i would love an angry emoji or dislike option  

1 minute ago, Indykev said:

not for long

was that a threat?

2 minutes ago, Indykev said:

why go through 2 senior nights?

we should be really good next year as long as Leal is back