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8 minutes ago, Coach Robby said:

Could not agree more. We will be sorry if we don’t. Don’t know the young man, but he can play. 

Have you watched him live?

37 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said:

I know you have been high on him. I have not had the opportunity to see him play much in any. What can you share. Thanks in advance 

Honestly I haven’t watched him Live. But from the videos I’ve watched he is an electric playmaker. Besides Geronimo he would be the most athletic player on IU. Capable shooter, tho his shot needs some  improvement. Looks like he loves to defend as well. He is a bit undersized but man is he athletic. Wow. 
I talked to a Coach who saw him play down in Louisville this summer against some of Indiana/Kentucky top talent and he said he was the best player on the floor at times. He was raving about him. 

the recruiting services always let some kids slip through the cracks we’ve seen our fair share of those at IU and I really believe he is another one. If no one bigger offers and he goes to Xavier i bet you he will be a star there. Really wish we were recruiting him. 
 

We should offer. He is going to be very very good

Anyone know how Damezi is doing? Just curious. He from what I could tell was a good kid. Wish it would of worked out for him at IU

7 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

Article sounds good and with the other two teams in what is believed his top 3 I think IU would be the pick.  Unless some other top programs come around I would think IU would be the top choice.  It sounded like if he can come for a visit in the spring it will really help the process.

Yea I like IU chances here. He is very solid. Would gladly take him. 

13 hours ago, Stlboiler23 said:

Lol. Never said we should’ve won tonight but we would’ve had a much better chance with guys healthy. 

You probably win the game if you had your 2 best guards. They wouldn’t of turned you over near as much. With that being said when all the injures happened to IU during Romeos freshmen year nobody wanted to acknowledge that. And it wasn’t  just 2 guards. Dang near the whole team for most of the season. 
 

I guess the point is if your a Pu/ IU fan it’s not that hard to be reasonable and not ignore facts.  

I don’t see him going to IU or Pu after the transfer and those comments 

16 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

I take Thornton or Brown over him for the PG in the 22 class

Not me best guard I’ve seen but Thornton would obviously be a good one to

My top want for 2022.. STUD. Way under ranked

1 hour ago, IU_Realist said:

He had a bad PER as a Frosh. That’s efficiency.  It was bad for a starting PG for the #1 team in the country.  Going back in history, I would have wanted another starting PG during Yogi’s frosh and Soph years.  

He was a liability on defense.  It was the scouts biggest knock on him during college.  Do you think they do that for fun?  Just make up reports about him because well they don’t like him.  

You can use PER all you want which some of those stats have there use but I let my eyes do a lot of the determining. I thought Yogi was just fine as a defender. Part of being a scout is determining how someone will translate at the next level. Which I can see a concern for him trying to guard much more advanced guards in NBA. That quote was from one individual. People have different opinions and are wrong on players a lot.  He’s done well enough as a backup to earn multiple contracts. Good convo though I don’t mind being challenged. Let’s get back to Avery Brown. 

16 minutes ago, IU_Realist said:

His PER was not as a starting PG as a frosh.  He shouldn’t have started and only did because Crean made a promise to him during recruiting.  His PER was 13 which is low for a 5 star PG or low for a starting PG in general.  We could have walked out a lot of players as a starting PG and still won it.  Abell left because of the nonsense. His sophomore season led to a lot of fighting on the team mainly due to his immaturity.  Ask Sheehey how many times he would yell at him and the rest of the 2012 and 2013 class.  He started doing better on offense as an upperclassmen because losing helps you focus more.  However scouts views on his defense in college....not a good write up on that.  

 

 

I never saw Abell as a 1 more of a 2. Yogi was very solid as a freshmen he didn’t just start over a promise. He averaged 4 assist a game as a fresh. The team needed a true PG. it allowed Hulls to play more of his natural position as a 2 guard. his sophomore year the team was in a transition year and yogi really had to step up into more of a scoring role. Sheehey well he was good off the bench in that role but he was never going to be the man on a winning team. And he can say what he wants but Yogi shot 40 percent from deep that year on almost 7 attempts per game and averaged 4 assists.  
Was Yogi a great defender or known for his defense well no I don’t believe that but he was never a liability and at times he really stepped up and lead on the defensive end. 
And At the end of the day the man was a career 40 percent shooter from deep, Indiana’s All TIME assist leader, racked up 1,986 points in his career, and 2 time outright BIG Ten champ.

not bad for a short guard, taking 2 years to adjust, and being a liability on defense. Oh and he is doing just fine in the NBA. 
 

2 hours ago, BobSaccamanno said:

The Leland Walker height thing is pure balderdash. Archie and staff are in daily communication with Walker.  

The must important defensive attribute for defending other point guards is not being 6’3.  It’s having excellent foot quickness to stop the ball and make it difficult for the other lead guard to initiate.  You’ve got to keep the ball in front of you and stop it.  A defense that doesn’t have a single guy that can do that will have to then compensate for that deficiency.  So you try to avoid having that deficiency in the first instance.

We also know that Archie has told another smaller player in Smith that he doesn’t care how tall he is.  Maybe you want to mix and match personnel to have a roster with a taller guard coupled with a smaller one but the notion that a player can’t be recruited because he’s only 6’0 is false.  Besides, Walker is a top flight athlete from what I’ve seen and that kind of athleticism is an equalizer.  

Nice post

54 minutes ago, Coach Robby said:

I’m intrigued by all the PG offers for this class. IF we have a season (successful) I wonder if anyone would pop early? Like this school year. 
 

PS I’m all in on Leland Walker and Braden Smith. Just a personal opinion. 

Same!

3 hours ago, IU_Realist said:

Hey it’s what they think.  Archie may have been small but most college coaches want bigger PGs like in the 6’1” and above range. The shortest PG Archie has offered so far was 6’0”.  Most are 6’1” and above. 
 

Yogi took two years to acclimate and he still struggled on D as a short PG.  You also have to think packline D and length and height to defend. You need length to guard the 3. 

Yogi did not struggle on D as an upperclassman. I was at the Iowa game his senior year when they switched him on to Peter Jok in the second half and he shut him down. Iowa was ranked 3rd In the nation at the time.
He did not take 2 years to adjust. He was the starting point guard for the BIG champs and number 1 seed in the tourney as a Freshmen. 

Yes if 2 players are equal you take the one with more height. Not many are equal to leland Walker. Yes length is nice but that does not mean you take someone that is not as good because they are a couple inches taller. Sounds like something Crean would do. I don’t believe Archie thinks that way. Rob Is barely 6 foot and is the best on ball defender on the team. Archie didn’t back off from him because of his height. 

1 hour ago, IU_Realist said:

There is concern he is too small.  

Ha was Yogi to small? Oh that’s right he is Indiana’s all time assist leader now. If you can play you can play. Archie being a good small guard himself I doubt he would think like this. Leland Walker is going to be really good for whoever gets him.

And then Lawhorn in 2023 right!? That would be an insane string of guards at IU. 

3 minutes ago, kyhoosier29 said:

Just seemed like you went out of your way to mention Smith, but your explanation makes sense. Sounds like they could compliment each other if the work ethic from both is there.

It was more like if it comes down to it I’d take Walker over Smith. And I mentioned Smith because he has been getting a lot more attention then Walker and I thought it bring good discussion...I like Smith That boy can play and he is going to make tough winning plays. I’d want him on my team any day of week. I see him as a colverdale/Hulls type which is great! but I see Walker as a star like Yogi/Thomas..maybe even more specially. I think Smith could play off ball in college like Hulls and Colverdale and excel In that type of role/more spot up shooter.. Walker is guy where ball is in his hands running show. Not sure if we would take both but I’d be happy if we did. 

10 minutes ago, IUBBx5Banners said:

I've been preaching the gospel on this kid for a long time now!! He is the truth. Plays with an attitude and swagger, and it's clear his scoring ability will translate to the next level. These Indy kids play so much of a tougher schedule than I think people give them credit for too. 

I posted this write-up on another site a few months back cause I saw he was getting no love.

Yea this kid is for real. I had no idea who he was until IsAw IU has been contacting him every day now and WOW I about feel out my chair when I saw some highlight vids. 
I was really bullish on Another small guard IU was recruiting a few years back by the name of Tremont Waters. I wanted him the most out of anybody in class just thought he would be a star. He ended up having an awesome career at LSU. On the G league team with Romeo now. I believe he was G league MVP. I feel same way with Walker. He gonna be a star. 

20 minutes ago, Coach Robby said:

Reminds me of Russell Westbrook...athletic slashing guard. 

Exactly what I thought! His mentality is like Westbrook. Except Westbrook is 6’4.. seems like Walker can shoot a little bit tho. I wouldn’t say great but I maybe guess 35-37% from 3.. anybody got any numbers from last high school year?

3 hours ago, kyhoosier29 said:

Probably could have been left unsaid if you feel that way. 

 Not trying to upset anybody here but not sure why I can’t state me opinion on 2 guard targets for that class.. I like Smith a lot as well I think he brings that jordy Hulls Feel back. A lot better passer than hulls tho.. honestly I’d love to ha a em both...Smith can probably shoot and pass a little better but I believe his athletic ability will hinder him a little at next level to make plays for others.. Walker is just on another level athletically and he is a good shooter and passer as well. 

Walker > Smith 

https://youtu.be/Wiiw-O511F4 

Here’s a link. This guy needs to be getting a lot more attention on here. I have a buddy who has watched him live this summer. Says he passes and shoots well. Has a nice feel for the game. Then obviously I love the mentality he has of wanting to tear the rim off every chance he gets! I really hope he likes IU! He would be ELECTRIC Inside Assembly Hall. 

If you haven’t already do yourself a favor and watch some highlights from this kid... WOW! My favorite player from 2022 class right now!

This kid is going to be a good one! I think he has a higher upside than Smith because of his athletic ability. Would take both though. 

17 hours ago, btownqb said:

so excited you came to post it man!!!

I have a player coming in 2020 class that I’ve coached in high school basketball. I’m not going to say who because I like to keep myself anonymous. He should be a good one though. MLB teams have already been in contact during basketball season this past year.