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I thought Goode was staying at Illinois. 

What happened with Anderson

We need a back up center more than anything else

1 hour ago, Hoosier4Life53 said:

With all the talent we’re accumulating, I hope we can finally rebound and defend the 3pt line. How many times over the past couple of years have we been killed by offensive rebounds, and torched from deep by the opposing team? And of course, we need to hit some 3s ourselves on a higher volume of shots.

That is what is nice about having 7 guys that can start. If someone is off you can go to the bench and still get the same level of play. Cupps Leal and maybe even Newton are very serviceable bench players. Cupps just might develop into an 8th type of starter. He will need to improve his strength and shooting as well as his defensive but he seems capable as the year goes on 

Looks like we have 7 guys that could be considered starters.

Galloway

Rice

Carlyle

Reneau

MM

Bello

Tucker

We will see if tucker is that good or not.  

Cupps Newton and Leal are very interesting.  All are very capable of cracking the rotation and playing very meaningful minutes.  We need at least one more big for the rotation.  MM can easily play some 4 and gives this team a lot of flexibility.  We have had flexibility in the roster the last few years.  We finally look like we have quality guard depth.  A big with 3pt range would be nice

28 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

That is why he will be a huge get. UCONN only shot 31% from 3 in the tournament but there guards still scored a lot of points.

They also blew everyone out

Have guards that breakdown the D and score in multiple ways is what we need. Rice and Carlye fit that. Tucker has some potential and Galloway is his gamer. Woody is very close to assembling a solid team with actual quality depth. 

5 minutes ago, Hoosier4Life53 said:

While I’m excited about the addition of Tucker, Rice and Ballo, I see a repeat of last year unless we get a couple of legitimate 3pt shooters…and I mean an in your face type of guy!

Someone talk me down off the ledge…please.

Having guys like Carlye and Rice that can attack the basket, make mid range jump shots and make 3s at a 32-34% range will put pressure on the D. More so than a 40% shooter. Galloway added with those guys gives you 3 guys to attack off the bounce. Galloway proved to be a OK spot up shooter his Junior season. If he can get back to 32-34% range and MM shoots in the 35-37% as a volume shooter we will be in good shape. Scoring won’t be the problem. Rice and Carlye will be tougher to guard than a guy like Loyer or Essigan. 

31 minutes ago, DWB said:

Is this guy as good as Ware? (probably not)

So we're now gonna see 2 bigs playing together again, "inside (and hopefully) out". I'll believe it when I see a 4 out 1 in game with 3 shooters on the perimeter. (from IU that is)

So far I'm under whelmed with the committed recruits. Not a huge step forward IMO. If MM gets hurt we got NO shooters on the perimeter.

Cupps: No.     Gallo: No.      Newton: Unknown.     Rice: Not any better than Gallo.

You guys can celebrate all you want. Good for you. But I'm with-holding my excitement until I see the product on the floor.

Bella will be equal or better defensively. Provides rim protection. Ware got pushed around a little on the inside and was ok not great in the pick n roll. Ware’s length was his greatest asset. 

Bello is a better rebounder on both ends. That’s a huge plus 

Ware better offensively by a big margin. But Bello should be equally as effective on the roll. not going to shoot 3s. Ware better in the post and gave up. Bello is probably not going to be asked to do a lot of posting up 

Big plus Rice and Carlye and Galloway (if he commits) we will be and can run the offense and create. This will give us more of perimeter attack. Exactly what all the fans want. 

21 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

So if we get Carlyle then our starting 5 is set and have Galloway and Tucker as our top 7. That is a really good top 7 but it will get more difficult to bring in a wing who can really shoot and at least one more big guy.  Most of these recruits are in the portal for the money or a better opportunity for playing time. So what kind of players can we get that are good enough for IU but are willing to come off the bench.

If we get Carlye. Then a backup big and you can roll with Cupps Newton and Leal. Keep trying for a shooter but that will be a pretty good team. Should contend for the big ten title 

2 minutes ago, btownqb said:

Man.. you post how you want to post. I'd be a hypocrite if I complained about it because I get sick of people getting personal with me. 

Buuuuuuut--- I just don't think we should care(and respectfully even mention) why we get someone when we have watched program, after program torch us by cheating in the past. Literally doing the EXACT same thing we are now. I just don't care that we are, allegedly, paying him 1.2 million. I don't. Not an ounce of me cares about that. 

Anyways--- yes, I agree, branding, apparel, uniforms. I'd have gobs of new shit. Couldn't agree more. 

There are a lot reasons this guy and others are coming to IU. Money is certainly part of it. But he was getting paid here or somewhere else. 

Ware and TJD say hello

we have a coach that has developed 2 big guys and will. it Bello in pick n roll. 

We have a passionate fan base. both good and bad.  17,000 plus for every home game. National TV schedule and basically every game on TV. 

The belief that money is the reason we are getting recruits is false. The money is was coming from other schools too. 

Give the coaching staff some props. we want to give them shit when things go bad. Give them credit when they do good

2 minutes ago, DC2345 said:

I'm also not convinced that Payne will commit if in fact Ballo commits. He's also the kind of player that you find room for imo. 

Agree him and Bello make  a nice defensive combo. I think they can split time. Malik plays the four. MM back malik up and plays time at the 3. Tucker and the other guards backup MM at the 3. Malik can play some at the 5 if needed. 

1 minute ago, DC2345 said:

Starters 

1. Rice

2. Carylyle

3. Mgbako

4. Reneau

5. Ballo

Bench

1. Galloway

2. Hickman

3. Tucker

4.???

5. Payne

I like that

with Newton Cupps and leal. 

Don’t need more than that 12. If you find a young guy that is willing to come in and set the bench or a big guy for depth than use the 13th

12 minutes ago, Seeking6 said:

I'm not a big I told you so type of guy. Never been my make up. I say what I think and if it checks out cool....if it doesn't I'll try to understand what I wasn't seeing.

BUT....if we land Rice and Carlyle and Bollo....throw in a side dish of one of the other bigs with Hickman from outside and you add that pot of goodies to Malik, Mack, and Trey....we will have something pretty serious pretty quick. 

Hope this all plays out.

You forgot about tucker 

I would take Payne and Ballo both. 

MR an MM with those 2. We can compete with anyone

Biggest problem last season wasn’t playing tow bigs. The guard play outside of Galloway wasn’t that good. Cupps tired and did fine but really should have limited to 10 minutes. X never got healthy and struggled. Gunn and Banks disappointed. 
If the guard play is better we can absolutely succeed with Malik play alongside another big. Guards that create and knock down tough shots and get to the rim. Rice and Carlye seem to fit. 

4 minutes ago, Common Sense said:

On the other side of the FAU/Northwestern coin, I really was impressed with how NW came out fighting and were super physical.  Collins has done a really good job.  

They are an easy team to root for.  UConn will be tough. 

**I would take Indiana State's head coach over May.  I'd be happy with either though.  

Give me Hoiberg or Collins any day. Both should be able to recruit better at IU and both can coach. I’ll take both over a mid major coach any day. 

24 minutes ago, OGIUAndy said:

He blew an 18 point lead in 7 minutes. 

We would want him fired too

4 minutes ago, MrsStoller said:

I’ve been following the NIT just enough to watch ISU last night and know 3 Big Ten teams are in the NIT, which has a heck of a lineup. 6 B1G teams in the NCAA tournament. So we’re 1 of 5 B1G teams sitting idle. Just struck me. MINNESOTA is in the NIT, OSU, and Iowa. Good for them. Just ugh for us. 

Really needed this Kentucky loss today 😂😂

 

IU turned down a NIT bid

Big Ten off to a very good start 

15 minutes ago, kyhoosier29 said:

False. Best you got? Don’t give two shits about Jack Benter. You probably have 3 people on all of HSN who do. You guys should PM about him so the damn thread can be flushed like it should be. 

 not sure why I look at this thread. It should be locked up. I don’t care anything about a Purdue kid or how good he will be the same why about any other big ten player. I care about IU players. 

18 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

Is this t true that Auburn has not had 1 quad 1 win all year. I heard someone say that but I found that hard to believe.

1-7 quad 1

9-0 quad 2

net 6

9 minutes ago, IowaHoosierFan said:

We're still barely winning most of our games and losing by larger margins when we lose.  It is our own fault.  We didn't do what we needed to do.  Winning 5 games at the end of the season against mediocre teams and doing so by mostly close games, is not going to change the over all metrics.  You can't pick and choose when you want to look at the body of work. 

We shouldn't have lost to PSU, Rutger, etc... throughout the year and we probably wouldn't be in this place.  Also those losses were by double digits.  I give this team credit where it due, we're winning game we should win NOW, we should have done that when we needed to win them THEN.  

Sucks to waste the season until the last 4 games and into the BTT.  Keep wining and we won't have to worry about it.

you say mediocre teams

Wisky and MSU both top 25 net. 
Again winning close games is what good teams do and teams that get in the tournament.  We are clearly playing better D than a month ago

17 minutes ago, 5fouls said:

It's not neceassarily where we are ranked, but where we are ranked in relation to our peers from the Big Ten.  You say we cant ignore the first 3.5 months.  I say you cant ignore the last 3 weeks either.

A win over MSU in Sunday should mean more than struggling against Army in November.  It just does.  

 

Hopefully the committee is looking at overall. Wins mean more than a loss. Our record is good. Strength of schedule is good. The committee has said in the past they only looked at the net for seeding and not used that much at all. If that is the cause we should have moved into consideration and a win too would go a long way. Find a team outside of OSU that’s playing as good as us

25 minutes ago, IowaHoosierFan said:

You can complain and moan about this all you want.  They have more +15 point wins and less +15 point losses than we do compared to the wins/losses.  It's really not hard to figure out the metrics behind what the NET is doing.  Kill the 300+ team you play and don't get your ass handed to you very often by anyone else, then + wins enough to stay in the top 50 and you're pretty golden.  We had way too many mid/low single digit wins against shitty teams early and then gave up to many 15+ losses over the season.  We also win close alot of games.  How many low single digit games do we win by.  No one cares if you win by 1 if you're undefeated or close to it.  But a 18 to 20 win season, you can't win a majority of your games by single digits.  You're going to be considered mediocre.  

They have to use something to differentiate the team with similar Quad wins/losses.  What else are they going to look at?  Paint vs 3point scoring?  Rebounds? Efficiency maybe?

All this is coming from me, who knows nothing about anything, so take what i say and ignore it

Not saying ignore it at all. Just saying 70 spot difference is not accurate. 

Winning close games can be conspired a good thing as well

Again not saying we are a great team or belong in the tournament. Just saying we compare good to other bubble teams. I’ve watched St. john’s Villanova Wake Forest and others. Not sure they are better than us. Every calling Iowa and OSU a bubble team is crazy

I hope Indiana State makes it in but if they played our schedule would they have a different outcome?  Doubt it Doubt they would have even finished with 8 wins in BTT. 

Too much weight is given to the scoring difference. Coaches are going back to playing shitty teams and running up the score to improve the metrics. You used to play tough schedules because that helped get you in. Now you play bad teams and blow them out. Doesn’t sound like a good way to me

53 minutes ago, Kdug said:

The quads have 0 impact on the net, so not sure why referencing them proves anything. It’s pretty simple to see the difference in MSU vs IU. MSU has a lot of blowout wins, including over solid to good teams like Butler, Baylor, and ISU. They also only have 3 double digit losses, with none of them being by 20+ points. They also blew out every single 100+ rated team on their schedule.

IU has almost no blowout wins, and as we all know struggled in almost all of the games against inferior opponents. We also have 8 double digit losses, including 4 by 20+ points.

Any objective evaluation of MSU vs IU would show that MSU is the better team (which is what all the metrics show) with the better resume (which is why they’re in the tourney and we are not).

 

I get the margin of victory but not for 70 spots. We played in the conference played the same teams have the same record. 70 spots behind is ridiculous. We have 4 losses to the top 6 net teams and 3 more to top 22 net teams

thats 7 of the 13 to top 22 net teams

wins over 2 top 25 net teams. 

Not saying we belong in.  But we should be in the conversation. Overall record and win quality stack up to other bubble teams. 

20 minutes ago, KDB said:

IU up to... 94 in the NET from 96. We were 93 the day after the MSU game.

5 Big Ten wins in a row and IU hasn't made much of a move in the NET. LOL.

Up a couple spots to 84 in Kenpom, and I believe 6 spots to 73 in Bart Torvik.

The fact we have won five in row 

2 wins over too 30 net teams 

2 road wins by double digits against higher ranked net teams

Net is a joke

 X came up big in this game. Played strong D and played under control most of the time. That is the player we needed all year and will need tomorrow night 

Just now, Parakeet Jones said:

I’m glad we won, but both teams set the game of basketball back about 20 years tonight. 

I think refs had a little to do with that

PS slapped and grabbed all night with very few calls