Muddy River

In his last year at Alabama, our esteemed shooting Yoda had his team shooting a a 46% clip from the floor, 32% from 3 and 67% from  the stripe.  Look, I don't care who CMW hires to be the 3rd assistant.  I will not lose a minute of sleep over it.  I just don't understand A) Why we take a risk when it isn't necessary to do so. and B) Why people are selling a bill of goods about the guy that has zero evidence to back it up.

6 minutes ago, IUFLA said:

Charlie Lau was a career .255 hitter in the bigs, but is widely heralded as the best hitting coach in history...

 

 

So, you're saying there's a chance.....

4 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said:

Teaching and doing are 2 completely different items. 

So you don't have to be able to do calculus to teach calculus?  That would certainly explain some of my high school teachers.

2 minutes ago, tdhoosier said:

How does Izzo coach successful bigs? 

So you are OK with a 51% free throw shooter teaching shooting form?  Call me next year, I'll do your taxes.  

19 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said:

Posted this a couple of weeks ago. While a player, Woodson got caught up in some stuff with two other players. The other two were let go from the team. RMK suspended Woodson, in essence giving him a second chance. 

Maybe this is Woodson doing something similar. A “pay it forward “ if you will 

I personally don't feel like IU is in a position of charlty at the moment.  As someone posted earlier, he hasn't worked since being let go by Alabama, why?  Why has no one else stepped up and offered the second chance?  I just don't see the need for the risk here.  I wouldn't do it, but as I said, I'll trust CMW.

25 minutes ago, tdhoosier said:

😍 at “shooting mechanics expertise”

In 58 college games Yasir shot 36.8 from the field, 37% from 3 and 51.4% from the stripe.  Can someone explain to me how that makes him a shooting mechanics expert?  Seems like some folks are really working the mental gymnastics to try and make this hire more palletable. 

1 hour ago, tdhoosier said:

After boring weekend I’ve been doing some reading up on Coach Ya....enough that I can now call him Coach Ya. 

Let’s set the whole baggage issue (for which he was cleared) aside for a second.

If the guy is hired, he’s not a temporary hire because he may or may not bring Jabari Smith. He has been a D1 - power 5 assistant for many years at Oregon, Georgia and Alabama. This is not an under qualified video coordinator. 

I posted a link to his podcast a few pages back, which I recommend listening to if you’re on the fence. A good segment to the podcast is devoted to giving advice to recruits. He has a knack for delivering sobering reality in a tactful way. You can see why this guy connects with recruits: he’ll be relatable, blunt and is extremely knowledgeable. The most important tips he gives to get noticed by college staffs? 1. Work hard and demonstrate you can fit into a teams culture. 2. Take your education seriously. ‘Talent’ takes a back seat to tips 1 and 2. And when talent comes up he recommends to stop dribbling and work on your shooting. Play defense. Etc. 

I just get a good vibe from the guy. 

I agree with almost everything you wrote, but I think with our recent history it is a stretch to set aside the baggage.  If we set aside the baggage, we could've hired Sampson again, or Alford for that matter.  I get Coach Ya was cleared, because he didn't take money.  It wasn't that he didn't take money because his moral compass said it was the wrong thing to do, he didn't take money because he didn't have anything Dawkins was willing to pay for.  Big difference there.  At IU he will likely have players others are willing to pay for.  I will trust CMW's decision, but this is someone that should be on a very short leash.

42 minutes ago, cybergates said:

He got caught and cleared of something shady. He didnt get retained by new Bama coach. He hasn't gotten an assistant job since. Basically he has done his time for the crime. 

I have no problem with IU hiring him, but they better (and I think CMW will) let him know what is allowed and not allowed at IU. 

I remember people being confident that Sampson wouldn't make the same mistakes, in part because it was IU and he wouldn't have to.  If this guy is the hire, I will be disappointed because there are others available without the baggage.  That said, I think Woody and Fife will protect the program at all costs.  

12 hours ago, Drroogh said:

I still have 4 rolls of my COVID emergency supplies from last year!

You should've sold when the market was high...

8 minutes ago, 5fouls said:

I'll bite and do a little speculation.

Bennett offers him a clear starting opportunity.

Woodson is looking to bring new guys in and nothing was guaranteed.

For that to be true, AF would have to look his IU teammates in the eye and say "I just don't want to work that hard to stay with you guys"  Seems a cowards way out.  Something just seems very off.  My best guess is he was an Archie guy through and through, and was hurt by the termination.

3 minutes ago, Officer Obie said:

I didn't even know that 'Race' is one of our players. Race isn't even a name. I'll try and keep up. 😀 Lol.

Let's not make this a Race issue.  

I;m guessing we get UVA in the ACC challenge within the next 2 years.

Soooo, was this what Fife was talking about on Dakich when he said they wouldn't be begging anyone to stay?

4 minutes ago, IUFLA said:

Disappointing...

I wonder what the real deciding factor was?

He wants to continue playing games in the 60's and he REALLY liked the packline defense.

1 minute ago, slojoe said:

When did we stop?

There was a time immediately after the announcement Archie was let go.....

1 hour ago, KDB said:

Mike. F'n Woodson. 

Fixed it for ya! 

7 minutes ago, btownqb said:

Doesn't really go against what I said though. 

Yeah.  Blue agreed with you for the most part, and I agreed with Blue.  No one was going against what you said.

1 hour ago, btownqb said:

Hey.. I love me some ranch lol pizza, chicken, etc.

Back to XJ.. I don't like that his former coach had to call him out in post game interview for his behavior. Getting technicals for spouting off at another team's bench is stupid and selfish at minimum and it's not winning basketball.

I agree with Blue.  I don't want to see it excessively, but I remember Sheehey flexing in front of the purdue bench and most people loved it.  We do need a little of that.

I was told in previous assistant coaching threads that we HAD to hire a minority coach for recruiting purposes.  So, shouldn't having a minority head coach be a plus in recruiting?

I'm surprised no one has connected the dots yet.   Mike Woodson is 63.  I doubt anyone including Mike thinks he is the long term solution.  In effect he is a placeholder, and as an IU guy he will gladly step aside when the best candidate is available.  We also brought in Matta to help with the college transition for Mike, as well as to help recruit the best candidate (who he has ties to) when the time arrives.  Now, Stevens has been in Boston for 8 years, when the average NBA coaching tenure is what, 4 years?  The Boston natives are getting restless.  How much longer will he be there?  We are now positioned well if this happens in the next couple of years.  That's my story and I'm sticking with it.

7 minutes ago, Dawg Bawls said:

Chaney

he died.

2 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

This thread should just be abut Matt Cross and hos transfer and not Archie's ability to coach.

It was sarcasm Scott.  The Fire Archie topic seems to find it's way into literally EVERY thread on this board.  I for one am over it.  I do appreciate all of the Mods efforts to keep discussions on topic.  My point was simply sarcastic.  If I didn't convey that clearly I apologize.

Just now, bluegrassIU said:

Check the general basketball forum for my opinion 😁

Which of the threads??  Luke Brown?  Women's basketball or the actual Fire Archie thread?  🤣

5 minutes ago, bluegrassIU said:

Gang,

This is the recruiting forum. We can not have every thread go down the same road. There are plenty of threads in the basketball forum for these non-recruiting discussions. 

Please and thank you. 

So you're saying we should fire Archie?  

Soooo, anyone think the Rams dangled that package in front of the Texans?  If Stafford is worth a former #1, two firsts and a third, what in the world is Watson worth?  Is it gonna take three firsts or more?