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So pg3 went to the thunder requesting a trade? Who got a better deal? Rank them. Pacers oladipo and Sabonis Thunder, 4 gonna be late 1st rounders, shai G Alexnader, and Galinari Or pels haul for AD? 3 first rounders, ball, Ingram, hart.

New theory I actually thought of 10 minutes before I heard it spoken on radio this morning. If Khawi waits until July 7th and doesn't go to Lakers, it screws them 6 million or so that they can spend.

Thought it was funny that Kyle Kuzma liked this considering they have 4 people on the team at the moment. Explain to me, if the Lakers do get Khawi, how much are they then allowed to spend to fill out the roster? I didn't think they were allowed to go over the cap to sign a max guy. Is it once they have signed a max, then they can go over the cap?

I had to. That was tee ball.

Especially with how good Holiday is. 😂

Reduntant conversation with the same person who hasn't changed their mind about anything in 30+ years. You win. I'm out.

Did you seriously at that point think the pacers could play with the bucks, raptors, Sixers? The season was over. Time to play for future. Not tank. I'm not saying tank. You still get your 1st round playoff loss but at least you have something to show for it in the future.

And thats fine. Play the guys that give you the best chance to win. In that case, it would probably be wise to tamper expectations, at least in the short term for the kid. He's young, he has pedigree, and now he's not pressured into something he's not ready for. I'm hopeful he's good for 20 solid minutes this year and if God forbid Brogdon goes down with injury then he's going to be greatly relied upon.

Well to me it's relevant to the discussion that we're having which is the legitimacy of our bench depth. Maybe over the long-term it's not that big of a deal but we gained nothing by given Collison and Joseph minutes over him because they're not here anymore.

The Pacers somebody said he'll be a future All-Star not sure who it's been repeated many many times now on local radio

I get it that Brogdon is versatile but to go and spend all that money for a comboish point guard when you have your supposed All-Star point guard in waiting. I'm definitely in believe it when I see it mode.

That or all this hype they were talking about wouldn't trade him for nothing, he's going to be a future All-Star is just that hype. Trying to drive up a trade market for him that doesn't exist.

Yes we definitely won this trade. The Pacers aren't looking like a lottery team for a while.

My post went widely ignored yesterday. If holiday is a future All-Star why does he get a 75% minutes reduction in a playoff series we knew we were losing? he played 4.3 minutes. it's ridiculous

Actually they said Lottery protected until like 25 or 26 and then after that it's unprotected

I guess I'll believe the organization and the 'leaks' that no way the pacers would trade holiday unless blown away and they think he's a future all star but upon further review... 4.3. 4.3 minutes is what they played their future all star point guard in the playoffs. A playoffs that everyone, including my mom, knew they had no chance of winning. Who played in front of him? 2 guys on expiring contracts that they didn't even bring back. So no, I'm not that hopefully and really think they were just drumming up some bullcrap to see if someone would bite on a offer. Then what do they do. Go and pay Brogden dang good money to play point guard.... in front of your future all star. Nope. Not buying it.

And the jump said as of now Houston still has the best starting 5.

Butler may be cancer, he's also a 4 time all defensive team.

Thank you. Great info. I like lamb's versatility and don't think he's peaked. Just didn't want to be a homer.

The Lakers obviously have high hopes for Khawi since they haven't taken one guy. I hope he stays with Raptors if not goes to the Clippers that would be hilarious with the Lakers striking out there one injury away from Lottery.

Seth Curry vs Jeremy Lamb. Discuss. The Mavs just picked Curry up for 4 years 32 million. Lamp 3 years 31 mil.

The Pacers play Checkers plain and simple. If you or I were the GM we could have put together this exact same offseason. this was not chess moves this was checkers.

You are correct on Matthews. It's hard to say that thad has no value when he just got 3 years 41 million. That argument has just Fallen completely on deaf ears with me. I'll just agree to disagree with everyone, except @BGleas who has been in my corner on this before.

Yes. 3 of those guys just proved they had value. Why are people denying that? And during the season Collison was more valuable than Joseph so he could have been traded as well. You're probably right nobody is giving anything for O'Quinn. Evans got suspended in the offseason not during the season whether or not somebody would have given something for him who knows

Well the pacers have salvaged this off season but I'll never forget the wasted opportunity. I was told Cory Joseph had no trade value - 3 year 37 mil, what does that mean for Yogi? Thad Young could have fetched a 1st rounder, gone - 3 years 41 million. Bojan, gone -4 year 75 million. A decent cache, instead nothing. Collison, no one saw it coming but at least worth a few 2nd rounders, which we have seen become decent trade assets. OQuinn would have brought a 2nd rounder as well as Wesley and maybe even Evans. Could you image the pacers sitting on 2 more 1st rounders and 3 second rounders. Smh. For a 1st round predictable exit. May gone down as the biggest mistake in franchise history outside of the malice.