Boiler Sam

The days of 1 program, any program, “locking down the state” are gone forever, IMO. Most kids these days don’t grow up Purdue or IU fans unless they have parents who went to one of the schools. Hence kids going to MSU, Duke, UNC, Ohio State, Kentucky, etc etc.

Just edited my post to add that he is not going to try to Out-Kentucky Kentucky.

You’re certainly entitled to your opinion. Painter builds his rosters very purposefully. And he is constantly reevaluating and evolving his methods. EDIT: and CMP decided a long time ago that he was never going try to out-Kentucky Kentucky.

Agreed. Painter seems to lean toward kids that will be likely to stay 3-4 years, vs the NBA/OAD types. It’s great for continuity in the program but not so great for the “I’ll get you to the NBA pitch”. Hopefully Ivey and Edey can both prosper in the league, that will help. At the end of the day I still think Sisley is IUs to lose. I’d rather see him there than up north at Thug U…

Purdue has historically landed lots of Indiana kids. Less so when RMK was in his prime obviously, but it’s a long list.

Sure it does, if Painter has a 4 with skills. Like Vince Edwards. Painter doesn’t really have an “offense”. He figures out the best way for a particular team to score points that season, and builds an offense around the strongest options. For example, in 2019, the offense was letting Edwards and Cline bomb away. If he gets Sisley, in my opinion it will be because Sisley wants to know who’s he’s with playing for the next 4 years, instead of playing with a rotating cast of portal guys.

I have no idea how good May is, but I think the distinction is that Dusty built FAU into what it is. Archie most certainly did not build Dayton into what it was.

If IU can match Auburn’s best counteroffer, I think they can get him. That would be fun.

Woody looking like Ike Turner.

I doubt it was a big pay cut. Most NFL coordinators make at least a couple million a year. Factor in cost of living in Boston V Green Bay and probably a wash.

When he first started doing games, he was really good. Then after he got on ESPN, it slowly morphed into An Evening with Dan Dakich.

You’ll forgive her when she has talented, albeit annoying, high school boys playing ball someday.

“Advisory Group”. 😂

I thought that guy was a can’t miss hire.

I think you have to move a foot outside of the lane to reset.

So he’s lost Actionstanleyjackson. Has the other OSU basketball fan weighed in ?

Is Holtmann out if they miss the tourney?

Um… where the hell has this kid been all year?

There have been similar debates regarding Purdue’s FB staff. The pro-Walters folks say the players need 2 years in the offensive and defensive schemes to really excel. The counter-argument is that in the portal era, you need schemes that first year players can easily grasp and execute.

Would Beard be a non starter with the IU administration?

I know the Miyakawas. Haven’t seen Evan since he was in junior high, so it’s crazy for me to see him referenced along with guys like Pomeroy and Torvik.

I read somewhere that the staff promised Mgbako that he would play the 3 if he came to IU. Don’t know if that’s true obviously.

Maybe, but I mostly think it’s a poorly constructed roster. I don’t know that the 3 five stars fit with each other, let alone the rest of the rotation. With NIL/Portal I don’t know that you need a dynamic recruiter as much as you need someone who knows how to build a cohesive basketball team. And player development is another component that the NBA guys seem to struggle with. I made fun of Crean, but kids got better under him.

Nah. IU has some nice pieces. Bring back Reneau and Mgbako, with McNeeley, and then go fill out the rest of the roster in the portal. If you need to send some kids packing, well it’s nothing personal, just business. I don’t think Woody knows how to assemble a roster, and why would he ? NBA coaches don’t do that. He needs a GM. Just my unsolicited two cents.