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15 minutes ago, HoosierDom said:

I don't mean to defend his roster decisions too much, but he did bring in Bates, Mgbako and Cupps - all of whom were billed as shooters coming in. Banks and Ware probably fit the bill, also.

was cupps?

4 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said:

I get it, but he inherited a team that struggled with shooting. In three offseasons, he's brought in one transfer who had any reputation as a shooter (Kopp) and none were guards (XJ only guard transfer). We'll see if that changes in year 4.

part of that was shooting for the moon and coming up 5' short. We went toe to toe with some of the big dogs, which is encouraging. reset the sites and build from there.

7 minutes ago, OGIUAndy said:

I agree. You can knock him for having a bad roster. That is a legit beef. But the style of play is based on the guys on the floor.  His best player last year was TJD. His best players this year were Ware and Reneau. Not too many teams could stop either 1 on 1.  It would make no sense for this year's IU team to jack up 30 3's a game. If he has no shooters again this year or has shooters but offense still sucks...

But the main reason was because of the roster more than style of play. For them to play "modern" basketball this year, Ware and Reneau would both only play 5.  MM at 4, TG at 3, AL or CJ at 2 and Cupps at one. The problem is 1, 2 & 3 - can't or don't shoot or score consistently. Had to go to the double post again to get the best players on the floor. Watch the NBA (modern basketball). It's inside out. Teams try to score underneath, if they can't, they kick it out (quickly). The key is who you are kicking it out to has to be able to drain the open three. They definitely need to shoot more threes but in reality they just need to make more. 

We will find out a lot this year. 

20 minutes ago, Indykev said:

Sorry....this is BS. Anyone on any team would take the Million. only one NBA player on that team.

smith, fletcher instantly pop in my head. idk about anyone else.

30 minutes ago, Feathery said:

Why not? Trey wasn’t a starter until this year. Perkins had about a 4:1 assist to turnover ratio. I don’t want a SG who can’t shoot but I’ll take a PG with a 4:1 assist to turnover all day, one that can defend and get to the rim. When fouled makes FT’s at a good clip.  

that with a 33% 3pt

28 minutes ago, Feathery said:

I think Woody knows he has to make some changes. And I think the inside out comment it’s getting taken way way way overboard. I’m watching the NCAA games and I’m seeing a ton of inside play. But there are shooters with the post players. Also athleticism in droves in the backcourt. I could definitely see us playing small ball some this year. See how the roster pans out. 

samesies

14 minutes ago, OGIUAndy said:

What about Leland Walker then? And if Perkins is playing off ball like some have mentioned, then 3 shooting is not going to be improved whatsoever based on Perkins history. Not to beat a dead horse but IU needs shooting!! I am fine with bringing in tough nosed, not turnover prone PGs, but then we've got to 100% bring in some cold stone killer shooters. 

33% career 3pt shooter that can get to the rim, bull dog defender, distributer, creator, solid rebounder from the 1 or Jack Gohlke 37% 3pt shooter that just shoots 3s and and is a below average defender?

5 minutes ago, IUFLA said:

I see Perkins as more of a 2, kjnda like a more consistent version of Galloway...He can play the point, and did a lot for the Hawkeyes, but I just think he's more comfortable playing off the ball...

If Thornton becomes available, by all means for the one...

The Mack kid was pretty impressive against us...Sure, give him a look...

And I'm just gonna throw this name out there...Kanye Clary...The kid can play...I think there was some really hard feelings over Clary staying when Rhoades came on, then Rhoades switching to Ace Baldwin and staying with him when Clary got injured...Here's a comparison between Clary, Baldwin, and Mack...

Just something to consider...I don't think his dismissal from the team indicates that he's a bad apple...He just thought he got screwed coming off the injury...Stuff happens...But he's an immensely talented kid...

 

yes and yes. My only thing is T Perk is a couple ticks below behind the arc where I would want as my off ball 2. I had a couple other names like Clary, but it didnt feel right having T Perk down at 7 so i am going to tiers.

1) Malik Mack

2) Thornton, Dug McDaniel (hoping his issues with Michigan don't carry) type of player. Younger, good, quick, shot creator, distributor, 33%+ 3pt

3) Clary, Pegues type of player.  high volume scorer shoots 36-38% 3pt

4) T Perk.

I still don't feel right about this, but this is the best 4th option I can think of ever (unless @Zlinedavid 4th option was the Purdue cheerleader). I would still take him now if he wanted. I would play him at the 1.

51 minutes ago, Maedhros said:

CJ Gunn commits to Chris Holtmann and DePaul.

hope he goes there and kills it. Has the ability. needs to find a consistent shot.

41 minutes ago, Seeking6 said:

Obviously there's no danger in his job but besides our friends in West Lafayette has any other team or program performed worse with being seeded so high each year in past few seasons?

 

I always thought Kansas was a big dog with little bite. I mean for everything they have accomplished with the 20 some Big 12 championships in a row and always seemingly seeded 1-4, they hadnt done much up until the ship 2 years ago.

8 minutes ago, IUFLA said:

Who are the first 2?

1)Malik Mack

someone younger like bruce thornton 

10 minutes ago, DC2345 said:

There’s good things being said involving Perkins at the moment 

not my first choice. maybe third. but if it means solidifying, and another piece to sell to others, I am on board.

I will not be a happy camper if the Vikes trade the family farm to move up and get JJ.

10 hours ago, DC2345 said:

Indiana 

are we not interested, or is he using IU top prop up his $?

Looks like he is productive with 35% ish 3pt

2 minutes ago, Zlinedavid said:

Mine was about the same size, and I was thinking, if you added up every person I attended high school with (3 classes above, 3 classes below), I still don't think you'd get to 2000

average class was about 100 for me. Mine was 94. So 7 years wouldn't even make 1,000.

Just now, IUALUM03 said:

With the composition of our team currently, the former, but I understand why you pose that question.  I don't want another season MR dribbling into double and triple teams because he doesn't have the confidence to throw it out to someone behind the arc that can make a shot. 

fair. 

second player is a little lower than i'd like at 3pt%. Career he's 32%.

I'd prefer a versatile player that shoots 32%-33% from three than a stand on the arch and shoots 38%. There's only 37 kids in all of D-1 that shot 40% and above

10 minutes ago, IUALUM03 said:

With all due respect, we don't need further clogging inside of the arc.  We need spacing and three point threats.  This is the exact opposite of what we need outside of the length on the defensive side. We need the 4 and 1 offense that was promised to us by Woody. 

Who would you rather have:

13.1 pts, 38 3pt%, 4.1 rebs, 78.5 FT%, 1.1 Ast sits on arc, below average defender

14.0 pts, 30 3pt%, 4.4 rebs, 78.8 FT% 4.6 Ast gets to the rim and a bulldog defender

37 minutes ago, Joe_Hoopsier said:

You aren't by chance Debbie Taylor are you? Please say yes, I loved you in high school. 

following for the love story.

9 minutes ago, ForHumanity said:

We are not dealing in fantasy or hopeium here. We have history behind us. Until a good product is on the floor let's put the over blown hopeium aside and be more realistic. Every year, it's...we have so and so, and so and so, we're going to have a good team, etc. The constant is the coach who walked out on the team and blamed them for the losses. 

Dont even know what you're referring to hopeium. No one is shooting rainbows and sunshine up peoples asses here. It the opposite.

Yes history says 2/3 tourney appearances. Over blown...!? the only thing over blown is that IU is a catastrophe. 

If you cant get a little hyped up about bryson committing, I dont know what to tell you, but there is no hope. Not for IU, but for you.

1 minute ago, kyhoosier29 said:

In all honesty, unless we snag some portal “shooters” Tucker doesn’t move the needle much. We need Tucker plus a few more. 

I get it. But it's not a bad start 👀

9 minutes ago, OGIUAndy said:

Yeah, that was wild. Who do you want to commit and I will do my best to spur along the commitment. 

Malik Mack. Yes, I know there there is no current communication with him, but I believe in your sorcery.

2 minutes ago, ForHumanity said:

We bought a below average coach for 10 million. Isn't that right, Quinn.

I thought Bryson Tucker committing would buy a little time before this stuff spewed back up. Shame on me.

@OGIUAndy

it's updated! Hurry and ask about someone else while the iron is still hot!

12 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

In his picture he was wearing #3 but will have to change it because Leal already has that number 

Leal is so selfless, I wouldn't put it past him that he gives the number up.

2 minutes ago, Indykev said:

 

also testing NBA

https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/2024-5-star-bryson-tucker-appears-to-be-trending-towards-indiana/

@OGIUAndy