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Thank you for the response. I'm perfectly okay accepting criticism when it is warranted. But, on this one, I'm honestly bent out of sorts. Yes, I was critical of a media story about the DC numbers, but it was a shrill headline with no details once it was opened. I supported my arguments with facts from other trusted media sources and another poster responded with his 'own' data. i asked him for his source and several days later still don't have one. So, when I get smacked for supplying verifiable information and someone that simply throws something out there that has no foundation does not, I take offense to that. If someone disagrees with me, that's fine. Provide factual information that supports the position. I love a good debate. But, I ask that person not to get mad or defensive just because they disagree..

Thank you, There was nothing political at all in anything I've posted about Coronavirus. I've been sharing facts from the #1 source on the subject all along. That said, whether it be people assuming something about me that is simply not true, or whether people don't like the facts I'm sharing and making an issue of it, I'm done offering opinions on facts on this subject. That's a shame, because that is what message boards are all about, One last thing. Every opinion I've expressed in this thread, I've backed up with facts. Several times in this thread, I've asked people to back up their opinions with facts and never received a response. Yet, I'm the one being questioned about my motives. What is wrong with that picture?

I'm done after this post. You and @Hoosierhoopsterare assuming something that is simply not true. Criticizing false information is not political. DEFENDING false information is. I voted in the Indiana primary this Tuesday. Care to guess which party's ballot I filled out? Based on your post above and Hoopsters ongoing crusade, you both would be wrong. As I said, I'm done. I will engage in facts only and if people want to discuss those, I'll be happy to do so.

Or, it could be that 80% of the time I'm reading what is going on in the world, I'm pulling up CNN. I happen to like their layout much better than other news pages, so that's where I go most often. If I stumbled across the DC article on another site, I would have addressed it the same way. I supported my argument with information from the New York Times. which is viewed by many as leaning the same direction politically as CNN. Yet, you overlooked that. You can't have it both ways. You can't accuse me of sneaking politics into that DC discussion. You just can't. Do you have any insight into my voting record over the years? Be careful when you answer that. The funniest thing about it is, at the start of the DC discussion, I published some numbers that showed DC was declining. You and others basically implied that I was fishing for numbers that supported my position. A few days later, you used Johns Hopkins for your numbers, presumably feeling they were more trustworthy. Let me share a secret. See below. That's right. Johns Hopkins is using numbers provided by my source. Your 'trustworthy' source got it's numbers from my 'untrustworthy' source. I chose not to point that out earlier, but the more I flak you keep throwing at me on this, I decided not to stay silent any longer. From my perspective, me calling out CNN (or any other media) from providing patently false information is not political. It's simply stating a fact. But, someone defending CNN at all costs, regardless of what they do, because they generally lean a particular way politically is political. About Worldometer Worldometer manually analyzes, validates, and aggregates data from thousands of sources in real time and provides global COVID-19 live statistics for a wide audience of caring people around the world. Our data is also trusted and used by the UK Government, Johns Hopkins CSSE, the Government of Thailand, the Government of Vietnam, the Government of Pakistan, Financial Times, The New York Times, Business Insider, BBC, and many others.

Both Brazil and Mexico recorded more deaths yesterday than the U.S.

I hope it's not considered political to say that he has been my favorite president during my lifetime (encompasses LBJ through today).

Do you disagree with my point that there is something wrong with a media outlet publishing misleading or downright wrong information? Let's recap what happened. CNN published an attention grabbing headline that stated COVID was spiking in DC The accompanying article had no facts. Not a single comparison timeline that showed that cases were spiking. The article simply rehashed the dangers of re-opening. Being curious, I found several articles that showed the contrary, including the New York Times. Cases in DC were actually decreasing. HoosierHoopster posted a link to Johns Hopkins that verified that cases in DC, in fact, were decreasing. I'm not sue how anyone can defend CNN on this matter. It was at best, piss-poor journalism, and at worst an attempt to mislead the American people. Do you work in the media?

Texas to allow 50% capacity at sporting events? https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-could-allow-fans-at-astros-rangers-games-in-2020-due-to-policy-from-texas-governor-per-report/

Put a fork in the College Football season. 5 Bama players test positive. Up to 50 may have to be quarantined as a result. https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/alabama-football-at-least-five-players-have-reportedly-tested-positive-for-the-coronavirus/

Indiana State Fair Cancelled. https://www.wdrb.com/news/national/indiana-state-fair-called-off-over-coronavirus-worries/article_3eeded14-680e-57a7-85de-41693049548a.html

One thing I'm curious about, as the overall death rate in the U.S. goes down, is whether the virus is actually losing some of it's strength, or whether those most susceptible have already succumbed, so those getting it now are more able to fight it off.

So, basically, you are saying that CNN was full of 'insert vulgarity' when they had their shrill headline about the 'SPIKE' in DC cases. Glad you were able to add context to my point.

Despite the decrease in the U.S. numbers the last couple of weeks, The U.S. had more deaths yesterday alone (1,083) than Japan has had total (900). And, if memory serves me correctly, that Japanese population is statistically older than the U.S. population. Yet, I've seen nothing related to the Japanese approach to defending against the virus. Anyone have any insight into how Japan has avoided what's happened in most other industrialized nations?

No screams/ No raising of the arms? No smiles? No laughter? All I can say is never pay full price to get your stuffed bear into an amusement park. They don't get their money's worth. https://www.cnn.com/videos/travel/2020/06/03/giant-teddy-bears-roller-coaster-orig-jk.cnn

And, you avoid the chance someone like me has licked it at the store.

9 month old baby dies in Kentucky, tests positive for Covid, but medical examiner is not calling it the primary cause of death. https://www.wdrb.com/news/9-month-old-in-kentucky-dies-after-contracting-covid-19-beshear-says/article_9f8653ce-a5d5-11ea-8d42-d36ae4c47322.html

As reported on CNN. Just thought I would share some positive news related to the virus. New York state reported its lowest daily coronavirus death toll so far, with 49 deaths reported yesterday, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said. That's down from 58 deaths on Monday and 54 on Tuesday, the governor said. Hospitalizations are also at an all-time low. Cuomo warned that although many headlines are focusing on the nationwide protests over George Floyd's death at the hands of police, coronavirus remains a threat. "It is still in people and in society. We're still battling that," he said of the virus.

I think this is one of those times where society has to take a leap of faith. We simply do not have the luxury of extending restrictions that impact the economy longer than we absolutely have to. If a vaccine works, and is available, there has to be a level of faith that side effects, if any, are mild and/or easily treatable.

I want to touch on your first paragraph. I'm looking for positives in this thing. I want things to return to some level of normalcy. I'm going to monitor positive trends and feel hopeful about them until there is a reason not to. I'm not putting my head in the sand. I want to believe that we will have high school and college sports this fall/winter. I want to believe my daughter will get to experience her first year of high school actually at school and not at home. I want to believe my son will get the chance to see his high school friends win another state title in basketball after getting cheated out of back to back this year. So, tell me, while I understand that there is still much to be concerned about, what is so wrong about feeling better when some positive news comes out.

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What is the process to ensure as many people have these follow-up tests as possible? Is there a change that some/many who test positive never have the follow-up?

I think an important thing here is to proceed with caution, but to not automatically dismiss positive news. Some positive news will not live up to what's expected, but other positive news is truly positive news. Whatever the reason, I do think coronavirus has brought out the pessimist in a lot of people. While understandable, it is also not always productive.

Any insight into how someone that tests positive drops off the 'Active Case' list (other than dying)?

So, you still may be considered an 'Active' case unless they have a specific process to drop you off the list after a certain amount of time even though you have not been retested. But, since you were not specifically told you were no longer going to be monitored, it begs the question as to how accurate the 'active' case number is.

When 'Total Cases' is reported as an indicator of where we stand today with Coronavirus, turn the other way. That number is meaningless when it comes to seeing where we are at on this particular date. The reason? Just as I will never be 18 years of age again (or 25, or 37, or 48), the total number of cases for a particular country, state, county, etc. will never go down. It will continue to go up until the end of time. You want to look at things in this order: Number of Daily Deaths (some inflation in numbers, but the best measure of the current danger of the disease) Daily New Cases (dependent on testing and there is no testing consistency) Daily Number of Recoveries (as I questioned in post above, is the reporting on this accurate) Active Cases (totally dependent on accurate reporting of three items above it) Do you see the same old guy at the grocery 6 weeks in a row without a mask A bunch of other things A bunch more things The flip of a coin Total Cases