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Can't speak to the demonstrations in NYC, but, for the most part, protestors in Louisville were not wearing masks.

Was at Home Depot this afternoon. The workers were not even wearing masks. Saw about 20 of them while in store and only 1 had a mask on. Was at Lowes yesterday and all workers had masks on. You could tell the difference among patrons as well. 50% or more of Lowes customers had masks on. Probably only 20% of Home Depot customers had a mask on.

It's very likely going to end up doing that anyway. I personally think that for the foreseeable future, positive cases will remain high while the death rate continues to decline. At what point do things like face masks (which I still wear in public) and social distancing (which I still practice as well) become disappear altogether? After all, both of those things would be useful during a standard flu season, but have never been widely used tools to prevent the spread of the flu.

The behavior in the video is reckless and deserves to be called out. That said, I take exception to the position this Lane Moore guy has taken with tying it into the protests. His flippant comment is exactly what is wrong with both of these major stories. For many that are commenting, it's an all or nothing position. One side is 100% wrong while the other is 100% right. It does not work that way, In this case, yes, this street gathering is likely to spread the coronavirus. But, so are large gatherings of protesters. So, no, there is no reason to 'skip that theory' as he says so in his post. The reality is neither example should be overlooked as a cause in the virus spreading. He could have posted the same video, called it irresponsible, and left out the editorial comment. Americans need to stop being hypocritical and calling out one thing while being accepting something else that has the same consequences.

As a general rule, I'm talking about the virus affecting the most susceptible. Why do some patients in a nursing home get the virus and others do not? Why does a husband get the virus and his wife does not? Why does one meat-packing worker die of the virus, but his co-worker only get minor symptoms? Much like many other diseases, some people are more vulnerable to the worst the disease has to offer than others. I don't know why, and I doubt anyone does. Will people continue to get sick and die of the virus? Yes. Eventually, however, as with other diseases, even if there is no vaccine, the number of people susceptible to serious impacts of the virus will be less abundant.

The other thing to keep in mind is that the most vulnerable have already been impacted. In Indiana, more than 50 percent of deaths are people over 80.

27,221 new cases reported in the U.S. today. Highest daily total since May 21st. 791 new deaths reported.

I'm not disputing that we can have high draft picks. I just did not think this particular class was going to have someone go that high.

Yeah. Once they reduced the draft to 5 rounds, I figured that probably shut the IU players out.

Updated with this Thursday's totals. Increases in cases, drop in deaths. Will be interesting to see if those trends continue for through the summer. More cases as more testing and less social distancing occur, but lower deaths as the most vulnerable have already succumbed to the virus.

Rolling three day average of new cases in the U.S. for June 7-9 was the lowest it has been since March 26-28. Numbers come from the Worldometer website that provides totals for many sources including New York Times and Johns Hopkins. Scroll down after clicking link to see graph. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

To add to what Blue has said. I did reach out to the mods privately, and each and every one shared his own personal thoughts, which I appreciated. I'll be honest, I still don't have a clear understanding of why reporting facts, regardless of the source would be political. That said, I appreciate all of our mods, and I have a great respect for this wonderful board that @Colonialcresterhas given us to enjoy over the years. If some felt I was being political, I can't exactly apologize, because I wasn't. Facts are facts, regardless of the source. As I explained to the mods, in my voting life, I have probably voted for an equal number of candidates from each party. However, what I can do is be more careful with choosing my sources. Some sources are simply going to generate a negative reaction regardless of the content of the story. In the end, I don't want to be responsible for bringing political discord to the board.

I encourage you to pick it back up. I'm getting ready to start Season 4 tonight. And, from the research I've done, Season 4 gets tremendous ratings on quality.

Are you still watching Bosch? I've watched a single episode for the last 30 nights straight. I prefer to view at a steady pace versus 3-4 episodes at a time. Anyway, 30 straight nights has got me through Season 3. Looking forward to the next 30 episodes and getting caught up. I'm loving every minute of it. Will be kind of sad when I do finish. Several months before Season 7 drops. After Bosch, I'm thinking about starting through The Americans. I only caught part of 1 episode when it was on TV. I think I'll like it.

I find it interesting to compare current numbers to the same day of the week in previous weeks. It does not make sense to compare a Sunday to a Wednesday, for instance, because not everyone reports consistently on the weekends. New U.S. cases over last 5 Thursdays June 11th - 23,300 June 4th - 22,268 May 28th - 22,658 May 21st - 28,175 May 14th - 27,246 May 7th - 29,162 New U.S. deaths over last 5 Thursdays June 11th - 904 June 4th - 1,031 May 28th - 1,223 May 21st - 1,411 May 14th - 1,753 May 7th - 2,129 Not as fast as we would like, but appears to be steady progress.

Thank you for the response. I'm perfectly okay accepting criticism when it is warranted. But, on this one, I'm honestly bent out of sorts. Yes, I was critical of a media story about the DC numbers, but it was a shrill headline with no details once it was opened. I supported my arguments with facts from other trusted media sources and another poster responded with his 'own' data. i asked him for his source and several days later still don't have one. So, when I get smacked for supplying verifiable information and someone that simply throws something out there that has no foundation does not, I take offense to that. If someone disagrees with me, that's fine. Provide factual information that supports the position. I love a good debate. But, I ask that person not to get mad or defensive just because they disagree..

Thank you, There was nothing political at all in anything I've posted about Coronavirus. I've been sharing facts from the #1 source on the subject all along. That said, whether it be people assuming something about me that is simply not true, or whether people don't like the facts I'm sharing and making an issue of it, I'm done offering opinions on facts on this subject. That's a shame, because that is what message boards are all about, One last thing. Every opinion I've expressed in this thread, I've backed up with facts. Several times in this thread, I've asked people to back up their opinions with facts and never received a response. Yet, I'm the one being questioned about my motives. What is wrong with that picture?

I'm done after this post. You and @Hoosierhoopsterare assuming something that is simply not true. Criticizing false information is not political. DEFENDING false information is. I voted in the Indiana primary this Tuesday. Care to guess which party's ballot I filled out? Based on your post above and Hoopsters ongoing crusade, you both would be wrong. As I said, I'm done. I will engage in facts only and if people want to discuss those, I'll be happy to do so.

Or, it could be that 80% of the time I'm reading what is going on in the world, I'm pulling up CNN. I happen to like their layout much better than other news pages, so that's where I go most often. If I stumbled across the DC article on another site, I would have addressed it the same way. I supported my argument with information from the New York Times. which is viewed by many as leaning the same direction politically as CNN. Yet, you overlooked that. You can't have it both ways. You can't accuse me of sneaking politics into that DC discussion. You just can't. Do you have any insight into my voting record over the years? Be careful when you answer that. The funniest thing about it is, at the start of the DC discussion, I published some numbers that showed DC was declining. You and others basically implied that I was fishing for numbers that supported my position. A few days later, you used Johns Hopkins for your numbers, presumably feeling they were more trustworthy. Let me share a secret. See below. That's right. Johns Hopkins is using numbers provided by my source. Your 'trustworthy' source got it's numbers from my 'untrustworthy' source. I chose not to point that out earlier, but the more I flak you keep throwing at me on this, I decided not to stay silent any longer. From my perspective, me calling out CNN (or any other media) from providing patently false information is not political. It's simply stating a fact. But, someone defending CNN at all costs, regardless of what they do, because they generally lean a particular way politically is political. About Worldometer Worldometer manually analyzes, validates, and aggregates data from thousands of sources in real time and provides global COVID-19 live statistics for a wide audience of caring people around the world. Our data is also trusted and used by the UK Government, Johns Hopkins CSSE, the Government of Thailand, the Government of Vietnam, the Government of Pakistan, Financial Times, The New York Times, Business Insider, BBC, and many others.

Both Brazil and Mexico recorded more deaths yesterday than the U.S.

I hope it's not considered political to say that he has been my favorite president during my lifetime (encompasses LBJ through today).

Do you disagree with my point that there is something wrong with a media outlet publishing misleading or downright wrong information? Let's recap what happened. CNN published an attention grabbing headline that stated COVID was spiking in DC The accompanying article had no facts. Not a single comparison timeline that showed that cases were spiking. The article simply rehashed the dangers of re-opening. Being curious, I found several articles that showed the contrary, including the New York Times. Cases in DC were actually decreasing. HoosierHoopster posted a link to Johns Hopkins that verified that cases in DC, in fact, were decreasing. I'm not sue how anyone can defend CNN on this matter. It was at best, piss-poor journalism, and at worst an attempt to mislead the American people. Do you work in the media?

Texas to allow 50% capacity at sporting events? https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-could-allow-fans-at-astros-rangers-games-in-2020-due-to-policy-from-texas-governor-per-report/

Put a fork in the College Football season. 5 Bama players test positive. Up to 50 may have to be quarantined as a result. https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/alabama-football-at-least-five-players-have-reportedly-tested-positive-for-the-coronavirus/

Indiana State Fair Cancelled. https://www.wdrb.com/news/national/indiana-state-fair-called-off-over-coronavirus-worries/article_3eeded14-680e-57a7-85de-41693049548a.html