NIL, the AD, and where does the line get drawn (Hoosier Hysterics)

[13th&Jackson]

18 minutes ago, IUFLA said:

Since they really can't control NIL, I look for them to try to exert more control over the portal and transfers...I think they'll get plenty of support from coaches and administrators on that...

Until the first lawsuit  

NCAA already lost a suit restricting second transfers

[Kdug]

24 minutes ago, FKIM01 said:

Great post.  I'm right there with you.  I absolutely hate the NIL and the farce it makes of amateur sports, but since it's not going away, I'm at least appreciative of how it's leveled the playing field and taken away the biggest cheating element in college sports.  I find it laughable that the NCAA has a tampering "rule" that appears even less effective than the pro version.

Now, all that's left is to eliminate the requirement for the athletes to attend classes.  Let the ones go that want to and let the rest stay in the gym.  If you require ANY class,it should be of the personal finance variety.  Help these kids hang onto the money they make and otherwise, let them learn their sport.  It's silly to pretend that most of these elite athletes have any interest in the classroom. Eventually,  I could see teams only affiliated to schools via sponsorship.

I feel like the amateur part of amateur sports has been a farce for quite some time, at least for college basketball and football. When schools and coaches are making millions of dollars, they’re going to be incentivized to pay players in order to attract talent whether it’s against the rules or not.

That being said the current model doesn’t feel sustainable. I think eventually this will end up with players being employees which would hopefully allow multi-year employment contracts and some year to year stability. IMO it’s more the transfer portal that makes all this feel so different rather than the NIL aspect

[IUFLA]

23 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said:

NCAA already lost a suit restricting second transfers

As I read it, the rule is under an injunction...For the time being, underclassmen can transfer twice without penalty...

"The NCAA also said athletes would "continue to be subject to all other existing eligibility legislation and to any eligibility standards required for competition that may be developed or modified for the 2024-25 academic year."

The lawsuit is scheduled for a jury trial in June 2025 in Wheeling, West Virginia."

 

[13th&Jackson]

1 hour ago, IUFLA said:

As I read it, the rule is under an injunction...For the time being, underclassmen can transfer twice without penalty...

"The NCAA also said athletes would "continue to be subject to all other existing eligibility legislation and to any eligibility standards required for competition that may be developed or modified for the 2024-25 academic year."

The lawsuit is scheduled for a jury trial in June 2025 in Wheeling, West Virginia."

 

Yes, but...

In granting the temporary restraining order, the court found that there is a likelihood of success on the merits of the claims. This means the judge believes the state attorney generals will likely prevail on their claim that the NCAA’s transfer waiver rules violate federal antitrust law, according to sports law attorney Mit Winter.

 

Reynolds and Battle both told the court that the NCAA was preventing them from earning pay from their NIL contracts at each school.

“It’s harder to make more money,” Reynolds said of not playing this season.

Battle compared his “NIL contract” at WVU to an employment contract and says the NCAA is preventing him from accessing his full payment. “I’m not going to get what I signed for,” he said.

https://sports.yahoo.com/judges-ruling-grants-all-ncaa-transfers-temporary-eligibility-paving-way-for-potential-permanent-change-193130982.html

[FKIM01]

The NCAA is going to lose every antitrust suit they face. 🤣🤣🤣

[tdhoosier]

Just going to leave this here because the conclusion they reach is because of NIL. Like it or hate it, our program will benefit from it. 
 

 

[Drroogh]

7 hours ago, tdhoosier said:

Just going to leave this here because the conclusion they reach is because of NIL. Like it or hate it, our program will benefit from it. 
 

 

I’ve posted a few times that the programs with established runners and bag men still have advantages. However, their advantages disappear when players don’t have the baggage around them. AAU coaches and promoters, family and people all holding out their hands. I like the recruits IU has been landing because of that. MgBako’s mom calling coach, Newton saying he wouldn’t transfer because he made a commitment, Tucker’s dad saying he wanted a Pro Coach. Those players 👍👍👍

[tdhoosier]

8 minutes ago, Drroogh said:

I’ve posted a few times that the programs with established runners and bag men still have advantages. However, their advantages disappear when players don’t have the baggage around them. AAU coaches and promoters, family and people all holding out their hands. I like the recruits IU has been landing because of that. MgBako’s mom calling coach, Newton saying he wouldn’t transfer because he made a commitment, Tucker’s dad saying he wanted a Pro Coach. Those players 👍👍👍

I’d think that handlers looking to sell access to a player are mostly a thing of the past because players can now have legit, licensed agents. NIL or not, people who surround these kids will always be looking for handouts. However, I’d imagine that players are better protected now from that dark world of recruiting than what used to exist. 

Sure, I like that parents of our players are heavily involved in their well-being, but I don’t think our players are all that different from players you’ll find in many other programs. 

[Reacher]

I would like to see IU involved in this-

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/nil-driven-las-vegas-college-basketball-event-with-millions-paid-to-schools-is-nearly-finalized/

[ledies22]

10 hours ago, Reacher said:

I would like to see IU involved in this-

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/nil-driven-las-vegas-college-basketball-event-with-millions-paid-to-schools-is-nearly-finalized/

looks like IU might be on the outside looking in. They arent a part of the 7 of the 8 listed for this year, or the 13 of the 16 for next year and beyond. 

Seems like IU needs to spearhead something like it and grab some schools to create something similar. This is a huge NIL boosting opportunity that everyone not a part of it is missing out on.

Maybe something with Adidas and the Adidas schools in Miami... because I'm only an hour away

[Reacher]

1 hour ago, ledies22 said:

looks like IU might be on the outside looking in. They arent a part of the 7 of the 8 listed for this year, or the 13 of the 16 for next year and beyond. 

Seems like IU needs to spearhead something like it and grab some schools to create something similar. This is a huge NIL boosting opportunity that everyone not a part of it is missing out on.

Maybe something with Adidas and the Adidas schools in Miami... because I'm only an hour away

I was thinking of something in Chicago 

[Indykev]

NCAA settles suit for 2.8 Billion. schools can now pay players. college sports are now over as we know it. it will turn to trash. at what point will kids not be required to have any classes.

[Drroogh]

I remember when Title IX first came about. Several Non-Revenue sports virtually disappeared among many schools! I believe this will be worse! What schools are going to pay for athletes to compete in fishing, bowling, heck even wrestling took a major hit with Title IX?

[Indykev]

 

[Indykev]

Each school will pay $20 million to players a year. can count scholarships in the $20 million. good bye non-revenue and olympic sports.

[Indykev]

2.8 billion going back 10 years. every player will get $2.50. lol.

[Indykev]

36 minutes ago, Drroogh said:

I remember when Title IX first came about. Several Non-Revenue sports virtually disappeared among many schools! I believe this will be worse! What schools are going to pay for athletes to compete in fishing, bowling, heck even wrestling took a major hit with Title IX?

Does the NCAA give a crap about Title IX since men can play womens sports now. Title IX is gone. all of those sports will be club sports not supported by schools including wrestling. Major sports will be it. and if you have a job in the AD's office start looking over your shoulder. you might be gone to.

Edited Friday at 09:03 PM by Indykev

[IU Scott]

57 minutes ago, Indykev said:

NCAA settles suit for 2.8 Billion. schools can now pay players. college sports are now over as we know it. it will turn to trash. at what point will kids not be required to have any classes.

They say teams can have up to 20 million to pay athletes. You know it go to men's basketball and football and the rest of the athletes won't get squat. I see a lot of other sports being eliminated because of money. Also this will bring the end to mid major conferences competing with the power conferences. Eventually the tournament that we love will no longer exist. 

Edited Friday at 09:04 PM by IU Scott

[Indykev]

4 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

They say teams can have up to 20 million to pay athletes. You know it go to men's basketball and football and the rest of the athletes won't get squat. I see a lot of other sports being eliminated because of money. Also this will bring the end to kid major conferences competing with the power conferences. Eventually the tournament that we love will no longer exist. 

Just wait until the Star QB is the highest paid state employee. Unions are next then its $50 million a year.

Edited Friday at 09:06 PM by Indykev

[IU Scott]

Also will the players still get NIL money from collectives. I would eliminate scholarships and make the players pay their own way.

[Drroogh]

Private equity looking to college football now!

[Indykev]

2 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

Also will the players still get NIL money from collectives. I would eliminate scholarships and make the players pay their own way.

yes to NIL. Scholarships can be counted against the $20 million.

[Indykev]

14 minutes ago, Drroogh said:

Private equity looking to college football now!

This guy is saying expanding football scholarships to 100 with a budget on 30 million a year for 10 years. where is the other sports coming in? These firms only care about football. Good read though. Maybe Cuban can put together a Billion. Casino's in Btown and Indy. lol.

Edited Friday at 09:24 PM by Indykev

[IUJoe]

2 hours ago, Indykev said:

NCAA settles suit for 2.8 Billion. schools can now pay players. college sports are now over as we know it. it will turn to trash. at what point will kids not be required to have any classes.

Back when North Carolina had fake classes and got away with it.

[13th&Jackson]

1 hour ago, Indykev said:

2.8 billion going back 10 years. every player will get $2.50. lol.

Like the class action payments in The Jerk