KoB2011 Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 We are still the second 4 on Bracket Matrix, even with the update yesterday which factored in the Iowa loss. We are in a good spot. Since the real life Selection Committee released their top 16 seeds, which we were the second 4 seed then, we have wins over Illinois and Purdue, with losses to Iowa and MSU. Potentially two quad 1 wins since that release and no "bad" loses, in terms of NCAA perception (Iowa was bad in reality, very bad). We are in a much better spot for seeding than some of you think. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierDPU95 Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 1 minute ago, btownqb said: I just can't fathom ILL beating Purdue at Purdue. Agreed. But a guy can dream can't he? 😃 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, IUFLA said: I guess Rutgers COULD lose to Minnesota, but that's a real longshot... And you're right...After tonight we'll have a much better picture of what needs to happen over the weekend... For you guys who're more worried about NCAA seeding, I guess you'd rather have the 3 than the 4 (which is where Lunardi has us now) just to avoid a Sweet Sixteen game against #1? I think your first 3 games are significantly more winnable as a 3 than as a 4/5. 14 seeds rarely win their first game, 12 and 13 seeds regularly do. The difference in playing a 6 seed (or even 11 seed) as opposed to a 4/5 is pretty dang big, too. And yeah, I'd much rather play a 2 in the E8 and then a 1 seed only have two days to prep for TJD and JHS, than the 1 seed have 5 days to prep for those two. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: We are still the second 4 on Bracket Matrix, even with the update yesterday which factored in the Iowa loss. We are in a good spot. Since the real life Selection Committee released their top 16 seeds, which we were the second 4 seed then, we have wins over Illinois and Purdue, with losses to Iowa and MSU. Potentially two quad 1 wins since that release and no "bad" loses, in terms of NCAA perception (Iowa was bad in reality, very bad). We are in a much better spot for seeding than some of you think. Agree.. so at that point, I don't see that ILL is that much a factor. It's already viewed as a good win, I mean it's a top 35 road win... Go beat MSU, Iowa, and Purdue in the tourney.... boom 3 seed. Plus... I really like the conference tournaments. Last year was a blast, I hope we make another run! Edited March 2, 2023 by btownqb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, btownqb said: Agree.. so at that point, I don't see that ILL is that much a factor. It's already viewed as a good win, I mean it's a top 35 road win... Go beat MSU, Iowa, and Purdue in the tourney.... boom 3 seed. It's a big factor man, it's an additional Quad 1 win. There's a huge difference in "Indiana is 5-8 against Quad 1 teams, but has two Quad 2 wins that were very close to Quad 1" and "Indiana is 8-8 against Quad 1 competition, which is the 7th most Quad 1 wins in the country". They're evaluating about 80 teams for seeding, so those headline differences really matter. EDIT: It's NOT the road game at Illinois, it's the home game that is impacted by this. Edited March 2, 2023 by KoB2011 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted March 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, btownqb said: Agree.. so at that point, I don't see that ILL is that much a factor. It's already viewed as a good win, I mean it's a top 35 road win... Go beat MSU, Iowa, and Purdue in the tourney.... boom 3 seed. I'm with you... Win Sunday and just keep winning 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inequality Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: It's a big factor man, it's an additional Quad 1 win. There's a huge difference in "Indiana is 5-8 against Quad 1 teams, but has two Quad 2 wins that were very close to Quad 1" and "Indiana is 8-8 against Quad 1 competition, which is the 7th most Quad 1 wins in the country". They're evaluating about 80 teams for seeding, so those headline differences really matter. EDIT: It's NOT the road game at Illinois, it's the home game that is impacted by this. We aren't getting a three seed at 22-11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, IUFLA said: I'm with you... Win Sunday and just keep winning Maybe I just like pain by wanting to play Iowa again. And jesus we don't matchup well with them. A 3rd win over Purdue.... that would be looked upon pretty favorably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 23 minutes ago, IUFLA said: I guess Rutgers COULD lose to Minnesota, but that's a real longshot... And you're right...After tonight we'll have a much better picture of what needs to happen over the weekend... For you guys who're more worried about NCAA seeding, I guess you'd rather have the 3 than the 4 (which is where Lunardi has us now) just to avoid a Sweet Sixteen game against #1? I will take a #4 seed in the NCAAT, especially if we get matched up against a #1 UCLA. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 1 minute ago, rico said: I will take a #4 seed in the NCAAT, especially if we get matched up against a #1 UCLA. Meaning we'd have to play out west... PASS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsidehoosier Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, rico said: I will take a #4 seed in the NCAAT, especially if we get matched up against a #1 UCLA. I'd take Houston in our bracket 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 1 hour ago, btownqb said: Meh... I prefer the bye in the BTT. For real. We have never won that thing. Anything that gets us closer to that final game is preferable to getting one more Q1 win. And if we do well in the tournament, we are adding Q1 wins anyway. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 Just now, IUCrazy2 said: For real. We have never won that thing. Anything that gets us closer to that final game is preferable to getting one more Q1 win. And if we do well in the tournament, we are adding Q1 wins anyway. Now.. if we had a time machine and knew ILL was going to beat PU on Sunday?... Hell yeah I'd root for ILL tonight. Just don't see that happening. Either way, last night was crazy good for our BTT seeding. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted March 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, rico said: I will take a #4 seed in the NCAAT, especially if we get matched up against a #1 UCLA. All comers, brother...All comers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, IUFLA said: All comers, brother...All comers... True. But I still look at what I deem favorable match-ups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 1 minute ago, rico said: True. But I still look at what I deem favorable match-ups. Is it the matchup or you just don't think UCLA is that good? They don't seem to have a ton of depth down low... I'm sure we'd have a tough time matching up with them on the perimeter, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, btownqb said: Is it the matchup or you just don't think UCLA is that good? They don't seem to have a ton of depth down low... I'm sure we'd have a tough time matching up with them on the perimeter, though. I don't think they are that good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceDouglas Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 46 minutes ago, btownqb said: I just can't fathom ILL beating Purdue at Purdue. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 1 minute ago, BruceDouglas said: haha man, I couldn't fathom us winning there last weekend, either.... so hell, F it..... Go Orange!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 38 minutes ago, btownqb said: We aren't getting a three seed at 22-11. Then you know more than the committee and all the guys who do this for a living/in a lot of their free time. Overall record isn't something they look at. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, KoB2011 said: Then you know more than the committee and all the guys who do this for a living/in a lot of their free time. Overall record isn't something they look at. Of course it is. Edited March 2, 2023 by btownqb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 Just now, btownqb said: Of course it is. So you've got Oral Roberts in front of us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: So you've got Oral Roberts in front of us? To think it's not looked at all? of course it is.... Last years 3 seeds going into the NCAAs- Wisconsin- 24-7 Purdue- 25-9 TTU- 27-6 Tennessee 26-7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, btownqb said: To think it's not looked at all? of course it is.... Last years 3 seeds going into the NCAAs- Wisconsin- 24-7 Purdue- 25-9 TTU- 27-6 Tennessee 26-7 Okay, it's not one of the main things they look at. I guess it has "some" baring, but it won't be the reason we aren't a 3 seed. This article gives a good breakdown: Most important Games by quadrant, listing results and upcoming games Records by quadrant, away and neutral Non-Conference Strength of Schedule (SOS) Overall SOS Overall road and neutral records Non-Division I losses Some value Average NET win and loss Overall record Non-Conference record, road record Not nothing, but not very important NET and other computer rankings Overall home records, non-conference and by quadrant Game scoring margins Not criteria Conference records and standings AP Top 25, Coaches Poll Tournament history There is also this article that discusses injuries and other factors (playing MSU first home game after shooting). So yeah, I am much more concerned about the "most important" factors than I am our overall record, especially since we are a textbook definition of the injuries impacting our overall record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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