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btownqb Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 For real though, what are we doing with the MSU/Minnesota game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KoB2011 Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 2 hours ago, btownqb said: I think we want UM to win, yeah? No we do not. We want UI to be top 30 in NET. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) Outside of not knowing what is going on with MSU/Minny.... and also with the caveat "Indiana beats Michigan" because obviously the absolute worst thing to happen would be losing Sunday and would trump anything I mention below... -Best case(imo the most realistic of the "best case scenarios")--- Michigan beats ILL tonight, PSU beats Maryland on Sun ... everything else holds serve... Iowa- 2 seed Indiana- 3 seed Michigan- 4 seed This would be a silly good set up.... We'd have to beat one of UW, Minny, or MSU to reach the Semis. -Middle case - ILL beats UM this evening... Maryland loses at PSU... Iowa- 2 seed Rutgers- 3 seed Indiana- 4 seed -Worse case -ILL beats UM... Maryland beats PSU Iowa 2 seed Rutgers 3 seed Maryland 4 seed Indiana 5 seed Edited March 2, 2023 by btownqb 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 1 minute ago, KoB2011 said: No we do not. We want UI to be top 30 in NET. Meh... I prefer the bye in the BTT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 39 minutes ago, btownqb said: I'm not following the need for a quad 1 win, compared to a bye in the BTT. Some of us would prefer to have a shot at a 3 seed still as opposed to a bye in a tournament that doesn't even decide who is the conference champion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, KoB2011 said: Some of us would prefer to have a shot at a 3 seed still as opposed to a bye in a tournament that doesn't even decide who is the conference champion. If we win the BTT and beat Michigan, I'll bet we are a 3 seed. We have a good road win in ILL... it being quad 1 vs. 2, I doubt does that much in the eyes of the committee. We beat ILL when they were playing well.. and handled them really. That should sit fine enough for the committee. Edited March 2, 2023 by btownqb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 Just now, btownqb said: If we win the BTT and beat Michigan, I'll bet we are a 3 seed. I think we saw last year how little conference tournament games really impact things for seeding, considering we barely snuck in despite having a great run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: I think we saw last year how little conference tournament games really impact things for seeding, considering we barely snuck in despite having a great run. We aren't moving to the 3 seed line without a run in the conference tourney, regardless if ILL ends up a quad 1 win. There was also other factors as to why it took a good run in the tourney to get us in the NCAAs, last season. Edited March 2, 2023 by btownqb 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 17 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: No we do not. We want UI to be top 30 in NET. 13 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Some of us would prefer to have a shot at a 3 seed still as opposed to a bye in a tournament that doesn't even decide who is the conference champion. I'm afraid that ship has sailed. With the home loss to IA, IU dropped from 18 to 29 in the NET. I just don't think a 3 is an option now, unless IU wins the BTT and some weird things happen to higher ranked teams. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted March 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 22 minutes ago, btownqb said: Outside of not knowing what is going on with MSU/Minny.... and also with the caveat "Indiana beats Michigan" because obviously the absolute worst thing to happen would be losing Sunday and would trump anything I mention below... -Best case(imo the most realistic of the "best case scenarios")--- Michigan beats ILL tonight, PSU beats Maryland on Sun ... everything else holds serve... Iowa- 2 seed Indiana- 3 seed Michigan- 4 seed This would be a silly good set up.... We'd have to beat one of UW, Minny, or MSU to reach the Semis. -Middle case - ILL beats UM this evening... Maryland loses at PSU... Iowa- 2 seed Rutgers- 3 seed Indiana- 4 seed -Worse case -ILL beats UM... Maryland beats PSU Iowa 2 seed Rutgers 3 seed Maryland 4 seed Indiana 5 seed Ran it through the scenario generator... If Michigan beats Illinois and we beat the Wolverines, it doesn't matter what Maryland does...UNLESS Northwestern would beat Rutgers in Piscataway.. If Illinois wins tonight, there's basically no way for us to get above the 5 seed line... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier4Life53 Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Between2Halls said: I may be way off on this, but college basketball seems to be more like the NBA than ever in terms of the swings between games that seem to come out of nowhere. Big wins followed by weird or confusing losses. As a fan I have always hung on each game, but it feels foolish to have that approach any longer. Ups and downs until the end, and then let’s go all in at playoff time. I agree, there’s so much parity now because of the portal, it’s hard to put a long streak together without having a let down like the other night. You have to be ready every game, because all these teams are capable of playing like Iowa, if they get hot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inequality Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 10 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: I think we saw last year how little conference tournament games really impact things for seeding, considering we barely snuck in despite having a great run. Agree with this. Bad remaining season losses by other teams projected higher than us is the only way IU gets better than a 4 seed. A loss Sunday and closing out the season with two home losses would squash hopes for even a 4 seed in the NCAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 19 minutes ago, btownqb said: We aren't moving to the 3 seed line without a run in the conference tourney, regardless if ILL ends up a quad 1 win. There was also other factors as to why it took a good run in the tourney to get us in the NCAAs, last season. I disagree, we are very close to having the 7th most Quad 1 wins in the country if a few things break our way. If we beat Michigan and avoid a bad loss in the BTT (so win the first game), we have a good shot at a 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, Inequality said: Agree with this. Bad remaining season losses by other teams projected higher than us is the only way IU gets better than a 4 seed. A loss Sunday and closing out the season with two home losses would squash hopes for even a 4 seed in the NCAA. Probably, but I'm not sure a 4 and 5 are that different and it seems like a 5 is about as low as we can fall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Ran it through the scenario generator... If Michigan beats Illinois and we beat the Wolverines, it doesn't matter what Maryland does...UNLESS Northwestern would beat Rutgers in Piscataway.. If Illinois wins tonight, there's basically no way for us to get above the 5 seed line... The bold isn't true. If ILL wins, and PSU wins... we are the 4 seed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted March 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 1 minute ago, btownqb said: The bold isn't true. If ILL wins, and PSU wins... we are the 4 seed. True... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: I disagree, we are very close to having the 7th most Quad 1 wins in the country if a few things break our way. If we beat Michigan and avoid a bad loss in the BTT (so win the first game), we have a good shot at a 3. I don't agree. 22-11 seems very sketchy for a 3 seeds record(could be wrong there)... I think we need to stack more wins, much more than ILL needing to be viewed as a better win. Edited March 2, 2023 by btownqb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, IUFLA said: True... obviously there are a million scenarios that could happen... but, I did mention... "everything holds serve" in regards to games like NW vs. RU. I can't come up with ALL the scenarios haha So many things could happen. Heck RU has two games left. Edited March 2, 2023 by btownqb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inequality Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 Just now, KoB2011 said: Probably, but I'm not sure a 4 and 5 are that different and it seems like a 5 is about as low as we can fall. I speculate 4-5 is where we fall with a win Sunday. If not then I’d say 5-6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, btownqb said: I don't agree. 22-11 seems very sketchy for a 3 seeds record(could be wrong there)... I think we need to stack more wins, much more than ILL needing to be viewed as a better win. I don't think raw total of wins really is a criteria.... if we have 8 quad 1 wins we've got.a case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierDPU95 Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, btownqb said: obviously there are a million scenarios that could happen... but, I did mention... "everything holds serve" in regards to games like NW vs. RU. I can't come up with ALL the scenarios haha So many things could happen. Heck RU has two games left. This is my favorite scenario that gets IU a 4 seed in the BTT 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted March 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 Just now, btownqb said: obviously there are a million scenarios that could happen... but, I did mention... "everything holds serve" in regards to games like NW vs. RU. I can't come up with ALL the scenarios haha So many things could happen. Heck RU has two games left. I guess Rutgers COULD lose to Minnesota, but that's a real longshot... And you're right...After tonight we'll have a much better picture of what needs to happen over the weekend... For you guys who're more worried about NCAA seeding, I guess you'd rather have the 3 than the 4 (which is where Lunardi has us now) just to avoid a Sweet Sixteen game against #1? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 1 minute ago, HoosierDPU95 said: This is my favorite scenario that gets IU a 4 seed in the BTT I just can't fathom ILL beating Purdue at Purdue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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