IUFLA Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 I had posted this in another thread... Using the quadrant system, which was in its fourth season in 2020-21, the quality of wins and losses will be organized based on game location and the opponent's NET ranking. Quadrant 1: Home 1-30, Neutral 1-50, Away 1-75. Quadrant 2: Home 31-75, Neutral 51-100, Away 76-135. Quadrant 3: Home vs. 76-160 teams; neutral vs. 101-200; away vs. 136-240. Quadrant 4: Home vs. 161-plus teams; neutral vs. 201-plus; away vs. 241-plus So far... Our Quad 1 win? Xavier (39) Our Quad 1 losses? Arizona (16) Rutgers (29) Our Quad 2 wins? UNC (37) Nebraska (75) NCAA Basketball NET Rankings as of 12/10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 KU goes about 8 deep...Not very big, so I think we can get some inside, but I'm sure they'll double every time Trayce catches the ball... If we shoot the 3 like we did vs Arizona, I think we can win this game...They beat Wisconsin in OT at a neutral site (American Family Park, the Brewers Stadium)... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 Couple of other things... I was impressed at the beatdown they gave 9-0 Missouri at the Tiger's gym, but then I looked at Mizzou's schedule... And Missouri had no size to speak of... But if you watch the highlights, you can see where the Jayhawks make their money...They will transition you to death if you let them...A lot of their transition buckets were 3s... I watched Grady Dick play against Montverde in high school, so JHS and Malik know his game...Don't think he's just a 3 point specialist...he can put it on the floor too... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 I wonder if see X in the post vs Harris for a few possessions? With Dick being a freshman, I hope the size and experience of Race and Trayce can get him in foul trouble (uphill battle at KS, I know). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Ballin Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) I just saw on twitter that Dick will start the game at the free throw line shooting for a flopping call against IU and after seeing the non goal tending call against us Bill Self has literally put a lid on the rim. Edited December 12, 2022 by 3Ballin 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 36 minutes ago, Reacher said: I wonder if see X in the post vs Harris for a few possessions? With Dick being a freshman, I hope the size and experience of Race and Trayce can get him in foul trouble (uphill battle at KS, I know). I think Dick will guard Kopp to start. Do they play him at the 4, some? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, btownqb said: I think Dick will guard Kopp to start. Do they play him at the 4, some? Wilson is the 4 at least starting the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Wilson is the 4 at least starting the game. I agree. Maybe they cross match and try and hide Wilson from foul trouble (I doubt it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 I was thinking Kopp would guard Dick too... The good thing is, both Trayce and Race can guard on the perimeter pretty well...So between Adams, Wilson, and Dick, who do you put Trayce on? I assume XJ on Harris and JHS/Galloway on McCullar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 2 hours ago, IUFLA said: I was thinking Kopp would guard Dick too... The good thing is, both Trayce and Race can guard on the perimeter pretty well...So between Adams, Wilson, and Dick, who do you put Trayce on? I assume XJ on Harris and JHS/Galloway on McCullar I would prefer TJD on Adams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 3 hours ago, btownqb said: I think Dick will guard Kopp to start. Do they play him at the 4, some? 3 hours ago, IU Scott said: Wilson is the 4 at least starting the game. I saw Dick (and Wilson) listed at 6'8" and assumed those were the "bigs". With Dick and McCullar both listed at 205lbs, Race will have an advantage inside. He hasn't looked too comfortable there but I hope he can turn that around like he did with his outside shooting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, Reacher said: I saw Dick (and Wilson) listed at 6'8" and assumed those were the "bigs". With Dick and McCullar both listed at 205lbs, Race will have an advantage inside. He hasn't looked too comfortable there but I hope he can turn that around like he did with his outside shooting. i feel like i need to say giggity. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 On 12/11/2022 at 5:44 PM, NCHoosier32 said: still struggling with calling Xavier a marquee win Top 30 KenPom win in the road. Not marquee in name only. Better win than Michigan State, Wisconsin, among others. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 11 hours ago, IUFLA said: KU goes about 8 deep...Not very big, so I think we can get some inside, but I'm sure they'll double every time Trayce catches the ball... If we shoot the 3 like we did vs Arizona, I think we can win this game...They beat Wisconsin in OT at a neutral site (American Family Park, the Brewers Stadium)... You a Cam Martin fan? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy4iu Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 On 12/11/2022 at 9:30 AM, 5fouls said: The Kansas crowd will be difficult to overcome. They will make the Rutgers crowd look like a walk in the park. I think you are right about the home crowd being a big factor but it seems that many IU fans took advantage of the fact that this game was included in the Kansas mini-package bundle and bought them. Wouldn’t it follow that this is a game that will be played while KU students are on break? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy4iu Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 On 12/11/2022 at 11:18 AM, ledies22 said: JHS mom posted saying he is on track to return for the Kansas game Man I hope that this is good news but I attended the IU morning shoot around in Vegas and all JHS did for the hour was stretch with Tim Garl and Dr Rink while the team went through drills and shoot around. Towards the end he was at the opposite end of the floor shooting free throws but I found myself less than optimistic that he’d be playing until Big Ten action resumes. Heaven knows we miss him so happy to hear his mom’s report. Go Hoosiers!!!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 14, 2022 Report Share Posted December 14, 2022 My biggest concern is that we lose this game and the season then goes in the toilet. Now if we win this game, then I will expect a FF appearance. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWB Posted December 14, 2022 Report Share Posted December 14, 2022 24 minutes ago, rico said: My biggest concern is that we lose this game and the season then goes in the toilet. I think it depends on the point spread. If we lay an egg like we did at Rutgers, then I agree. It'll be another Jeckel & Hyde season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 14, 2022 Report Share Posted December 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, DWB said: It'll be another Jeckel & Hyde season. That is my fear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted December 14, 2022 Report Share Posted December 14, 2022 (edited) 46 minutes ago, rico said: My biggest concern is that we lose this game and the season then goes in the toilet. Now if we win this game, then I will expect a FF appearance. If you would have told me that we'd be 2-2 against our P6 non-conference opponents, I would have taken it... 3-1 certainly... To me, the Iowa game on 1/5 looms large... On the road, in conference, decent team, and Kris Murray may be back... I just don't see us going in the tank. I'm seeing improvement in players like Bates, Galloway, and Kopp that we've been waiting for. We got out-toughed by Rutgers, but I really didn't feel that way against Arizona. If anything, I thought our toughness kept us in the game... They were just too talented and made big plays when we made our runs... Every time... I'd love to win in Lawrence... But if we don't, it's not the end of the season... I don't particularly care about rankings as some do... I'd rather be in the mix for a Big 10 title... Edited December 14, 2022 by IUFLA 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted December 14, 2022 Report Share Posted December 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, IUFLA said: If you would have told me that we'd be 2-2 against our P6 non-conference opponents, I would have taken it... 3-1 certainly... Yeah I think a lot of posters thought the same thing going into the season and then they got big heads. Now for some of them 2-2 is a sign of just another season like the last 20! Regardless let’s at least play a game that everyone will think okay Indiana is the real deal this year! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierfan1901 Posted December 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2022 Another seeding game, just play our game strong enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artesian_86 Posted December 14, 2022 Report Share Posted December 14, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, IUFLA said: If you would have told me that we'd be 2-2 against our P6 non-conference opponents, I would have taken it... 3-1 certainly... To me, the Iowa game on 1/5 looms large... On the road, in conference, decent team, and Kris Murray may be back... I just don't see us going in the tank. I'm seeing improvement in players like Bates, Galloway, and Kopp that we've been waiting for. We got out-toughed by Rutgers, but I really didn't feel that way against Arizona. If anything, I thought our toughness kept us in the game... They were just too talented and made big plays when we made our runs... Every time... I'd love to win in Lawrence... But if we don't, it's not the end of the season... I don't particularly care about rankings as some do... I'd rather be in the mix for a Big 10 title... One thing I really like about Coach Woodson is his desire to use what he learned from Coach Knight with this team. When Woodson was playing all through the 80's, Knight was one of the top 5 coaches in the country. I'm not saying this will happen, but Woodson is not gonna let this team crash and burn like some posters may feel. I just don't see this happening at all. I think we will start see a tougher team with more fight as the season progresses. Edited December 14, 2022 by Artesian_86 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maedhros Posted December 14, 2022 Report Share Posted December 14, 2022 3 hours ago, IUFLA said: If you would have told me that we'd be 2-2 against our P6 non-conference opponents, I would have taken it... 3-1 certainly... To me, the Iowa game on 1/5 looms large... On the road, in conference, decent team, and Kris Murray may be back... I just don't see us going in the tank. I'm seeing improvement in players like Bates, Galloway, and Kopp that we've been waiting for. We got out-toughed by Rutgers, but I really didn't feel that way against Arizona. If anything, I thought our toughness kept us in the game... They were just too talented and made big plays when we made our runs... Every time... I'd love to win in Lawrence... But if we don't, it's not the end of the season... I don't particularly care about rankings as some do... I'd rather be in the mix for a Big 10 title... I'm with you. I've seen a real pessimistic streak come out since that Rutgers loss, and fair, we got punked. But everyone gets punked sometimes and a Top 30 loss on the road isn't the worst thing. Neither is a Top 10 loss on a neutral court. Arizona was just a better team, with the size to neutralize our strength in the front court. I actually thought we fought pretty well, we just dug too big a hole when our only available ballhandler wasn't on the court. Kansas is likely a better team too, especially at their place. If we lose I expect the pessimism will increase. It shouldn't, because every one of us if asked would have pegged this game as a loss to start the season. If we win, it's a huge boost. If we lose, oh well. Our goals of a Big Ten title, heck even a Final Four, will still be on the table. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue7 Posted December 14, 2022 Report Share Posted December 14, 2022 Fans are a curious bunch What did you learn in 10 games that makes you think the season is lost ? JHS is a lottery pick …just needs to get healthy Malik is talented but needs time…. TG & Bates have stepped up talent ✅ depth ✅ coach ✅ 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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